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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:43 PM
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Indiana: steel, health care, trade, Chelsea: Rock on Hillary--and NC
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 03:07 PM by rodeodance
Indiana: steal, health care, trade, Chelsea: Rock on Hillary--and NC



http://www.nwitimes.com/articles/2008/04/26/news/top_news/doc2f903e53906b0d3e86257437001495f9.txt


BY JOE CARLSON
Saturday, April 26, 2008 .

EAST CHICAGO | U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton received a rock star welcome from a gymnasium of supporters Friday night as she made her third swing through the region in four weeks.

Talking about issues like foreign currency manipulation and universal health insurance, the New York Democrat was interrupted several times by chants of adoration from supporters.

"I will remember this night in this gymnasium in East Chicago, Indiana," Clinton told the crowd of more than 3,000 at East Chicago Central High. "And we will look back at this night and say, this is where it began."
………….
"Change is just a word unless you have the strength and experience to make it happen," Clinton said, referencing the central theme of "change" in Obama's campaign.

Amanda McKinney, a Munster native who lives in Illinois, said she entered Friday's event a skeptic and left as a believer.

"I thought it was very informative. It wasn't just about charm and charisma," McKinney said, officially renouncing her former support for Obama.
……………..

Not so for Lenny Gillis, a Lake Station steelworker with Local 1014.

"Our jobs are quite literally, daily, on the line here," Gillis said. "If she executes like I believe she will, I don't think we'll have to worry."

An even more intimate and conflicted audience awaited the senator at her first Northwest Indiana stop of the day: the Bennigan's bar and grill on Fifth Avenue in downtown Gary.

………..
Betsy Cowan of Schererville, a campaign volunteer in Clinton's Hammond office, thanked her for signing two autographs and said, "We're working hard for you, senator."
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http://www.post-trib.com/news/917269,042608clinton_home.article


Hillary talks trade, steel, health care

April 26, 2008

……

Clinton was in and out of the restaurant in about half an hour, hurrying off the United Steelworkers McBride Hall in Gary to talk with members of the USW’s District 7. There, speaking to a small crowd of more than 100 people, Clinton spoke at length about the trade policies she would pursue to help boost the manufacturing sector of the economy.

“This is not a Republican or Democratic issue,” the senator said. “It’s about who gets it and who doesn’t get it. Because you can’t have an economy that doesn’t make anything and have it be strong for long.” Clinton said she would immediately begin pursuing legal actions against countries that violate trade rules, restitution for companies and workers hurt by unfair trade practices, and the creation of a federal “trade prosecutor” whom she’ll task with ensuring that America’s trade agreements are being followed. “(Americans) are about the nicest people you’ll find in the world, but we’re tired of being taken advantage of,” she said to a rousing ovation.

Clinton also touched on what she called the moral imperative for universal health care. The crowd, which included Carol Betz and Robert Fraker, both of Cedar Lake, was a sympathetic one. Both Betz and Fraker have had family who lost half their pensions after spending their careers at LTV or Bethlehem Steel.

“She talked good. She’s interested in getting jobs back in American, which we need,” Fraker said. Clinton levied numerous criticisms at President Bush, but mentioned her “opponent” — Obama — only once. That is a change from the latter days of the Pennsylvania primary, which was dominated by infighting between the two Democratic candidates.

Sen. Evan Bayh, who appeared at the McBride Hall event at the end of Clinton’s speech, urged the union members to support her. “Hillary Clinton was there for us,” he told them, citing the high points of her pro-steel resume. From Gary, Clinton traveled to East Chicago. A lively crowd greeted Clinton as she arrived at East Chicago High School.

“Can I come here every Friday night?” Clinton asked. She discussed her detailed plans for universal health care, making college more affordable, and withdrawing troops from Iraq. Clinton said to provide health care, she would open up Congress’ health care plan for everyone. Clinton emphasized her experience and ability to get things done to the more than 1,000 area residents crowded into the East Chicago gym.

“It’s exciting. There’s so much to do,” she said. “We can begin to make all the changes we talk about. Change is just a word unless you have the knowledge make it happen.” She said that plan had 250 options to choose from. To make the plan more affordable, she would offer health care tax credits.

“I want to make it possible to say that nobody goes without health care in America,” she said. Clinton discussed the challenges for students who are forced to opt out of college due to the rising cost of tuition. She promised that those who engage in community service or pursue jobs in public service fields such as policing or nursing will receive student loan assistance.

If she is elected, Clinton also committed to begin withdrawing troops from Iraq within 60 days. Highland resident Lorri Russo said she brought her daughter, Anna, and mother, Rosemary Osmulski, to witness history. Russo is an educational tutor, and she appreciated Clinton’s vow to revamp the federal No Child Left Behind school program.

“I work in one of the schools, and I know it doesn’t work,” Russo said.
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http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/super-surrogate-chelsea-clinton/
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Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., enters Bennigan’s in Gary on Friday. Clinton made three stops in Northwest Indiana, including two in Gary and one in East Chicago. (Jeffrey D. Nicholls/Post-Tribune)

Sen. Hillary Clinton swept through north Lake County on Friday night, making two appearances in Gary and one in East Chicago.

……………………………….


Super Surrogate Chelsea Clinton
Posted on April 25, 2008 by katiebird

. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xp4_a188ws8

(Chelsea has a good grasp on the issues—Bill and Hillary did a great job raising her).
……


Commenter Dee was actually at this forum and she’s shared her experience with us:

Quote:

"I attended this forum. In fact, I am visible in some of that footage. She spoke for an hour and because the audience appeared to be mostly graduate students (approx. 1/2 international students) the questions were really, really tough but thoughtful.

I was amazed by her grasp of both foreign and domestic policy and how her narrative wove the issues together. She broke down difficult to understand policy issues into easily understood relationships.

When the event was over I heard the following comments - “How long before she can run for President?” I wish she was on the ticket. She is the best combination of her mother’s wonkish knowledge and her father’s charm. I believe we have just listened to a future U.S. President. WOW just WOW. ”

I had not realized until this event that Chelsea is pulling the hardest duty of the campaign because the students are the toughest most knowledgable audience. She did not make a speech. It was not political. She just took questions and they were complex. A couple of times I thought how can she possibilty answer that? And then she smiled and went after it. She referred to herself as a “numbers dork” almost as an apology for having so much information in her data banks.

This was not a campaign event - it was a learning experience.

I have never seen anyone quite like Chelsea."
…………


Published on Friday, April 25, 2008

In campaign stop, Clinton calls for end to Iraq war (NC)

….

In her second trip to the backyard of Fort Bragg in a month, Clinton focused mostly on issues important to a military community.
…………

Backed by former military leaders, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton outlined plans Thursday in Fayetteville to strengthen the armed forces and take better care of veterans.

During a 30-minute speech at Methodist University, her loudest applause came when she promised to reduce the strain that long deployments are having on soldiers and their families by giving troops one month at home for every month they spend overseas. She called for ending the war in Iraq as quickly as possible but said it would not be easy.
……

Clinton’s speech was preceded by praise from military veterans, including North Carolina native Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

“Unlike any other candidate, she understands that maintaining a well-prepared armed forces goes beyond providing dollars,” Shelton said. “She is the only candidate who has offered a responsible plan for bringing our troops home with honor.”
……….

Martha C. Sutton of Fayetteville, who calls herself a “rabid Hillary supporter,” said Clinton is much more attractive than the media presents her.

“She’s soft, she’s feminine and she’s brilliant,” Sutton said.

Sutton, 87, said Clinton needs to work on the young vote to overcome Obama. Does she think Clinton will win? “Oh, I hope so,” she said.

RELATED
Clinton calls for free-trade timeout
Supporters believe in Clinton



http://www.fayobserver.com/article?id=292364

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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:45 PM
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1. you got the "steal" part right.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:51 PM
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5. typo--fixed now
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 03:42 PM by rodeodance
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:55 PM
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8. but your subject line does read "steal"
:shrug:

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:44 PM
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11. it did do that.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:57 PM
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13. it's still in the body of your post
"Indiana: steal, health care, trade, Chelsea: Rock on Hillary--and NC"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:14 PM
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17. I have no doubt that smart folk can figure it out.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:14 PM
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18. but thanks
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DontTreadOnMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:46 PM
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2. Graceful?
"If you have any, any kind of loyalty to the Democratic Party, perhaps you need to rethink your strategy and bow out gracefully in order to save this party from a disastrous end in November," Rep. William Lacy Clay (Mo.), an African American Obama supporter, said in an appeal to Clinton.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:53 PM
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6. and don't forget to add that Hillary is “She’s soft, she’s feminine and she’s brilliant,”
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:47 PM
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3. Clinton is much more attractive than the media presents her."
There you have it. Ms. Sutton pays attention. I think she means attractive in the personal sense, not the physical sense.

Thanks, rodeodance. :hi:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:50 PM
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4. Media Narratives for candidates:
Obama: Greenhorn, awkard, "elitist" (thanks Hill)
Hillary: Calculating, cold, witch
McCain: Infallible and totally awesome


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:54 PM
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7. I think it is in both senses.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 02:58 PM
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9. That's great.
I think she will win IN. Keep talking about issues that matter to people and not promising pie in the sky. Go Hillary!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:44 PM
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10. her smaller groups allows for questions--which she tends to respond in detail to local concerns
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:51 PM
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12. AP- Clinton challenges Obama to Lincoln-Douglas style debate


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080426/ap_on_el_pr/democrats;_ylt=Alr1PFBXaIGyUWK7d7CO4aas0NUE


Clinton took the debate dispute to a new level, challenging Obama to face off with her in a debate without a moderator, Lincoln-Douglas style.

"Just the two of us, going for 90 minutes, asking and answering questions, we'll set whatever rules seem fair," Clinton said while campaigning in South Bend.

Her campaign made the offer formal with a letter to the Obama campaign. Obama aides said they were studying the letter.

The more open style of debating where each side presents an argument gets its name from the famed debates that took place during the 1858 U.S. Senate race in Illinois between Republican Abraham Lincoln and Democrat Stephen Douglas.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 03:58 PM
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14. Latest Newsweek poll shows Obama dropping like a brick
Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Latest Newsweek poll shows Obama dropping like a brick
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5696914#5696914
5696914, Latest Newsweek poll shows Obama dropping like a brick
Posted by Seeker30 on Sat Apr-26-08 03:36 PM

http://www.newsweek.com/id/134389

After an important primary win in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton has reduced Democratic rival Barack Obama's double-digit lead among registered Democrats and voters leaning Democratic by more than half, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. Plagued by controversies over Rev. Jeremiah Wright's comments and the candidate's own "bitter" remarks, Obama has seen his favorability rating slip significantly in the last week, the poll found.

<snip>

One of the more problematic results for Obama was that four in 10 of registered voters (including Republicans and independents) now have an unfavorable opinion of him--and the same number said there is "no chance" they will vote for Obama if he becomes the nominee. Four in 10 registered voters (41 percent) say they have a less favorable opinion of Obama based on his association with his former pastor, Rev. Wright, whose racially and politically inflammatory sermons have been circulated on the Internet and covered in the media. A similar number (42 percent) say they will not vote for Obama because of comments he made about "bitter" small-town residents clinging to guns and religion.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:03 PM
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15. No emphatic assertions that Obama is a Muslim? Oh yeah -- never on Saturdays.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:13 PM
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16. Rasmussen daily graph for 4/26/08 - Obama down 2 Clinton up 1
Rasmussen daily graph for 4/26/08 - Obama down 2 (47), Clinton up 1 (43)




These Rasmussen graphs are all contained on one Web page at http://www.dvorkin.com/rastrack.html
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 04:28 PM
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19. Shelton: Hillary is the only candidate who will bring out troops home with honor.



.......……

Clinton’s speech was preceded by praise from military veterans, including North Carolina native Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

“Unlike any other candidate, she understands that maintaining a well-prepared armed forces goes beyond providing dollars,” Shelton said. “She is the only candidate who has offered a responsible plan for bringing our troops home with honor.”
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 05:30 PM
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20. the moo vote

dean pandering for the moo moo vote:


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-26-08 06:17 PM
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21. Obama crumbles before Faux news
Edited on Sat Apr-26-08 06:50 PM by rodeodance


Here is the rough and tough bluster before the interview:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/senior_obama_adviser_obama_wil.php

"Obama's decision to go on Fox News has prompted a lot of discussion about the Illinois Senator's relationship with Rupert Murdoch and whether Obama is trying to "court" the media mogul in advance of the general election.

It's also been met with some dismay in the blogosphere, where folks had worked hard to push Dems to boycott Fox as a way of snuffing out whatever is left of the network's credibility.

But how do Obama and his advisers view this? What do they have to say about it?

The senior Obama adviser insists that Obama is under no illusions about Fox and what it represents, and that this isn't about courtship at all, and vows a confrontational approach on Sunday.

Here is what the adviser IM-ed me about this today:

We are clear-eyed about Fox’'s role in the dissemination and amplification of Republican talking points this election. They have been the tip of the spear when it comes to repeatedly broadcasting some of the most specious of rumors about Obama. He is going on their Sunday show to take Fox on, not because we have any illusion about their motives or politics in this election.
The Obama adviser declined to detail how he'd be taking on Fox. But if Obama does this, it could end up playing to his advantage. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out".

What actually happened:
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/26/obama-no-more-debates-before-next-primary/

"Wallace said that if Obama had won Pennsylvania he may not have accepted the FOX News Sunday invitation. But he said that once Obama met him for the interview, the Illinois senator was “friendly” and discussed several moderate-to-Republican viewpoints, making an apparent effort to broaden his appeal.

“He made it very clear he was not some left … liberal and he had been mischaracterized as such,” Wallace said. “I think this was an effort to sort of restore or regain the brand that he had some months ago, when he was saying there wasn’t a Republican solution, or a Democratic solution. It was a new politics and it needed to be a coalition.”

Not only did he cave..but he embraced Rethug issues..
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