Obama Camp caught lying about Pastor Wright - again.

[MethuenProgressive]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/455/



Michael Moore endorses Obama by lying about Wright, Lewinsky, and Bill Clinton.
And the many DU threads celebrating that lie went straight to the top of the Greatest Page!

[ossman]

1. in english please...

[anonymous171]

2. Michael Moore =/= Obama Camp

[lligrd]

3. I'd Vote For Wright Himself Over That Liar Clinton

Either one of them!

[cliffordu]

23. DING DING DING We have a winner!!! Kicked!!

I would too...In fact, I'd like to see him in the cabinet!!!

[JoFerret]

30. Stop the idiot name calling

.

[dionysus]

74. awwwwww....

[fortyfeetunder]

33. Methinks you earned a DUzy! n/t

[PseudoIntellect]

35. Lol. I'd vote Clinton over someone who thinks AIDS was injected into blacks by the gov't.

[newmajority]

44. How do you know it wasn't?

I suppose you believe the "someone fucked a monkey" story? (and no, that wasn't a Pickles Bush reference)

[Zhade]

51. Indeed.

NT!

[Name removed]

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[blue sky at night]

11. My....

that is one good looking sig line you have there!

[MethuenProgressive]

26. sig lines are nice - but evidently mean little to the above user.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. The whole rev silliness = big effing deal.

[Skittles]

56. I am very tired of it indeed

seems like the only place I hear about it now is on THIS BOARD. WTF!!!

[Yurovsky]

6. Truth-o-meter? Are you serious?

HRC's head would explode if you gave her a polygraph. She & WJC are INCAPABLE of telling the truth. From Bosnian sniper fire to Bimbos to Arkansas church burnings to Travelgate to ... well, I don't have all goddamn day to list the hundreds of thousands of lies told by the Clintons. That would be a fool's errand. Way too many to list for any mortal.

[MethuenProgressive]

22. Congressonal Quarterly and the St .Pete Times run PolitiFact. They ruled it a Lie.

[dkf]

7. I saw Rev. Wright with Bill Moyer and I can't begin to say how sick I am at how people like you

treat him and smear him.

Your kind are as bad as people like Karl Rove and Lee Atwater...and Hillary and Bill Clinton.

That is as low as a person can get.

[Bensthename]

8. What ever.. Go back to your Fox news..

[MethuenProgressive]

15. "Coming Up on 'FOX News Sunday': Barack Obama"

Google shows this when "Obaam" and "FOX" is entered:
"Coming Up on 'FOX News Sunday': Barack Obama"
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352513,00.html

[Bensthename]

36. lol, well you got me there. I'll be watching for sure..

[DJ13]

9. .......

[mac2]

10. Again

Who cares about Rev. Wrights friendship with the Clintons? He wasn't their pastor. Nor did he save their marriage as implied.

I wouldn't vote for him since he is clergy. His claims to greatness by his congregation are reaching the point of obnoxious. This is an election so get off the stage. Religion does not belong in a campaign except there should be none favored or there at all.

[blue sky at night]

12. our country is coming apart at the seams.....

and all you can talk about is a man's pastor....

Here stick this in your truth-o-meter and smoke it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5693149&mesg_id=5693149

[MethuenProgressive]

16. ""The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."

Speaking at the Washington, D.C., school's Andrew Rankin Memorial Chapel, Wright said, "We started the AIDS virus. … We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty."

The pastor reportedly said in a sermon just after 9/11, "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied."

Barack Obama's mentor and spititual advior, Pastor Wright.

[blue sky at night]

37. after the last seven years.......

I will take it, HRC is more of the same.

[Zhade]

52. "I dodged [nonexistent] sniper fire" beats "reportedly said" for dishonesty any day of the week.

You fail. Again.

[Forkboy]

13. The attacks on Wright make you look dumber than dirt, and more and more people see that.

This thread is an epic fail.

Better luck on your next two.

[MethuenProgressive]

18. The OP is about the Obama Camp's lie about Wright, Lewinsky, and Bill Clinton.

Obama failed the truth test - again.

[Forkboy]

19. "When you find yourself in a hole..quit digging."

Bill Clinton.

[MethuenProgressive]

20. You'd think the Obama Camp would stop digging, wouldn't you?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/455 /



Michael Moore endorses Obama by lying about Wright, Lewinsky, and Bill Clinton.
And the many DU threads celebrating that lie went straight to the top of the Greatest Page!

[Forkboy]

24. Not a good sign when you have to link to your stuff.

:rofl:

You've made yourself a cartoon character here on DU. Don't be bummed when that's how people see you.

[MethuenProgressive]

25. The link is to the Congressional Quarterly/St Pete Times site that rules this claim a Lie.

Welcome to DU.

[RaleighNCDUer]

27. Right.

It is clear that Wright attended the prayer breakfast. And yes, it came at a time when the Clintons were having marital difficulties regarding Monica Lewinsky. But there were over 100 religious leaders there. And according to the religious leaders who were there, Wright had no significant interaction with the Clintons either that day or later. Moore overstates the relationship by saying that Wright provided the Clinton’s “spiritual counseling.” We rate his statement False.

---
Michael Moore exaggerated.

And this has WHAT to do with Obama?

You are probably the most dishonest poster on this board. But not for me, anymore.

Welcome to ignore. It's WAY past due.

[MethuenProgressive]

31. Wright.

The Obama Camp Lied. Again.

[Zhade]

53. Of course, you haven't proved that, and no one is stupid enough to think you have.

Fail.

Btw - TUZLA!

[Cassandra]

59. There's a Camp Obama somewhere?

And Obama gets on stage and does his ventriloquist act with Michael Moore playing his dummy? Do all the campers do grab-bag dramatics after that or is that something only you do? I would say that your latest swig of kool-aid has sent you off on a snipe hunt.

[MethuenProgressive]

61. Yes, I agree. The Obama Camp was caught lying again.

Rolling out a high profile endorsement ready to crawl in the mud.

[Cassandra]

68. I assume you are deliberately dense...

or are seriously snark-challenged.

[Ka hrnt]

63. Have you noticed...

that there's a segment among both Hillary and Obama supporters that absolutely will not deal with facts, that "winning" is more important than being CORRECT?

[datopbanana]

64. "cartoon character here on DU" pretty much.

[AquarianRealm62]

66. lol.funny

[The Doctor.]

14. Fail.

[MethuenProgressive]

21. The Obama Camp lie didn't fail. It was celebrated here by the know-nothings.

And then it failed the truth test.

[The Doctor.]

49. What lie.

You people are desperate.

You're saying Michael Moore got a fact wrong, and that makes Obama a liar?

I was wrong, you people are truly fucking desperate.

[guruoo]

17. Oh, how shocking!

[Name removed]

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[MethuenProgressive]

32. self delete

contained yucky content

[blogslut]

29. Mislead much?

Michael Moore is a member of the "Obama Camp"? How so?

As for his claim, Moore was pushing the bounds most definitely. Regardless, Wright was invited to the White House that day.

Now, shall we go into exactly why the Clintons invited over 100 religious leaders (including Jeremiah Wright) to the White House on that day? A little something about atonement for sin? Hmmm? Remember? The President committed a sin - one of the seven deadly sins, one of the ones listed in God's top-ten list. Come on, you know the answer...

[Yossariant]

34. Obamafans caught trying to dump his garbage on the Clintons. They tried the same shit with Rezko.

:mad:

If George Bush had been born in Hawaii, his name would be Barack Obama.

Thanks for the heads-up, MP. :yourock:

[JoFerret]

62. There are some alarming similarites

but I would not go that far.

[whatchamacallit]

38. When are you guys gonna stop playing Scandal Quest (tm)?

You gave it your best shot (repeatedly), and this shit just won't stick to him. Prepare yourselves for reality.

[ProSense]

39. No one cares about Obama's ties to his former pastor, they do care about nasty campaigns

even Hillary's top donors are getting nervous

[MethuenProgressive]

42. "No one cares about Obama's ties to his former pastor" Don't know much about this, do you?

Wishful thinking only works in Fairy Tales.

[ProSense]

47. "Wishful thinking only works in Fairy Tales." Yeah, like the idea that Hillary can win. n/t

[JoFerret]

48. The "pastor" is irrelevant

as a pastor. he is who he is. But he will haunt Obama in the campaign.

[graycem]

40. Who else..

Who else speaks for Obama now? I guess he is guilty of all the perceived sins of anyone he's ever met or had any sort of relationship with. Here's something. Former President Clinton was impeached for a lie. He was disbarred for a lie. Do we charge Hillary with all of his character flaws and wrongs because you see, she CHOSE him to be her husband. She CHOOSES him to be her husband still. A relationship that is WAY more intimate in the eyes of even the most naive. So clearly, using your logic, anything he's ever done wrong influences and guides her character and judgment. Good to know.

Seriously. You should be more worried about President Clinton arranging meetings for Uribe with his uranium miner friends. Things like THAT should bother you. You know, things that might actually affect you and this nation.

[blue sky at night]

41. just in case you are still lurking around....

and whining still:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5690878

[MethuenProgressive]

46. "The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color."

You think that "fucking rocks"? Well, good for you.

[Name removed]

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[AquarianRealm62]

67. Yeah we all know the governmennt would never do such a thing..I'm sure many didn't think the

Tuskegee Experiment or a host of other experiments could possibly take place in this county either and be sanctioned by the government no less.

[groovytang]

43. Right-wing website

Get off this board if you're gonna post that shit.

[MethuenProgressive]

45. Welcome to DU!

I always suggest that new members read the rules before posting!
:hi:
DU Rules:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules_detailed.html

[The Doctor.]

50. Please understand, it's not appropriate to tell someone to "get off this board"

for linking to RW sites... especially if you haven't been around for long.

Better to simply say; "Wow... I heard of that site before! I didn't know DUers regularly cited sources like Newsmax, CNSnews, Rush Limbaugh, and Newsbusters. Thanks! Now I know where to go for news and information because you pointed the way. :sarcasm:"

Never, ever be so rude as to tell someone they have to "get off this board" just for citing RW sources.

MP is a long respected DUer. The psychosis will pass.

You're new... so mind yerself.

And welcome to DU.

:hi:

[MethuenProgressive]

55. Take a look at that site. Then tell us again how its "right wing".

Congressional Quarterly and the St Pete Times run a "Right Wing" website?
Only those drowning in kool aid could be that blind.

[Condem]

57. Let me guess, Methuen

She takes NC & IND and then on to the convention?

[The Doctor.]

58. Chill MP. You've lost your sense of humor.

I was merely suggesting 'alternatives' to outright accusations.

Think it over.

Meanwhile, I asked you a question...

"How does a possibly untrue statement by Michael Moore make Obama a liar?"

You see MP, that's the problem. Clinton has been lying her ass off, so you guys (and by 'you guys', I mean Clinton-Aid drinkers) are desperately reaching for parity. Not finding any, you've been reduced to citing mistatements or "lies" by Obama supporters in a sad attempt to paint him as nearly the same liar that she is.

What was that I said...




... right.

[Condem]

54. Methuen=desperation

[JoFerret]

65. Don't worry. Obama thinks he's losing

<<And when you look at the polling that’s now being done, post Pennsylvania, about how we match up in a general election, I think Senator Clinton does a couple points better than I do. But it’s not substantial. Most of those voters will vote for me.

[Swamp Rat]

69. Michael Moore is at the Obama Camp?

Cool! I'll bring an ice chest full of beer. :beer:

[stevietheman]

70. Please stop the attacks on our nominee Barack Obama. n/t

n/t

[boppers]

71. HOLY CRAP MICHAEL MOORE EXAGERATED!

THIS IS HUGH!!!!!
:rofl:

[MethuenProgressive]

73. Yeah, about Chelsea, Monica, and Pastor Wright, That's Karl Rove school, that is.

BO's bitchiness is going to bite him in the ass.

[MethuenProgressive]

72. Pastor Wright's PR blitz: "as selfish of a move as we've seen in some time"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5715832&mesg_id=5715832

[dionysus]

75. shouldn't you be listening to hannity or something?

n/t