The top 3 issues most often raised by Conservatives-Republicans I talk to....

[guruoo]

in order:
1. Price of gas
2. Illegal immigration
3. The war in general, contractor fraud, and specifically, the Treasury's $12B transfer
to Iraq that the administration still can't account for....


"But the fact is billions of dollars have disappeared without trace."

http://www.democrats.com/How-the-US-Sent-12-Billion-in-Cash-to-Iraq-and-Watched-it-Vanish

[XemaSab]

1. If anyone wants to send 12 billion to me

PM me and I'll give you my account number. :hi:

[guruoo]

3. Surprised me to find so many of them aware of this n/t

[DBoon]

15. Dear XemaSab,

My name is Mr.Moses Odiaka.I work in the credit and accounts department of
Union Bank of NigeriaPlc,Lagos, Nigeria. I write you in respect of a
foreign customer with a Domicilliary account. His name is Engineer Manfred
Becker. He was among those who died in a plane crash here in Nigeria
during the reign of late General Sani Abacha.

Since the demise of this our customer, Engineer Manfred Becker, who was an
oil merchant/contractor, I have kept a close watch of the deposit records
and accounts and since then nobody has come to claim the money in this a/c
as next of kin to the late Engineer. He had only $18.5mllion in his a/c
and the a/c is coded. It is only an insider that could produce the code or
password of the deposit particulars. As it stands now,there is nobody in
that position to produce the needed information other than my very self
considering my position in the bank.

Based on the reason that nobody has come forward to claim the deposit as
next of kin, I hereby ask for your co operation in using your name as the
next of kin to the deceased to send these funds out to a foreign offshore
bank a/c for mutual sharing between myself and you. At this point I am the
only one with the information because I have removed the deposit file from
the safe.By so doing, what is required is to send an aplication laying
claims of the deposit on your name as next of kin to the late Engineer. I
will need your full name and address telephone/fax number,company or
residential, also your bank name and account,where the money will be
transfer into.

Finally i want you to understand that the request for a foreigner as the
next of kin is occassioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner
and for that reason alone a local cannot represent as next of kin. When
you contact me, then we shall discuss on how the money will be split
between us and others we shall also speak in details.I am currently in
europe for a six months course,you can reach me on this number for further
discussion 0031 623 866 723.Kindly send your reply to my private email
address stated below [e-mail] or [e-mail]

Trusting to hear from you,

I remain Respectfully yours,

Mr Moses Odiaka.

[XemaSab]

16. OMG!!!11! I'm RICH!!!!111!!1!

:woohoo:

[rug]

2. Re #3, ask them if they believe the war is wrong or are they just pissed the US is losing.

[guruoo]

4. Mixed, I think... some that the war was wrong, some pissed @ the war waging

'incompetence' of the administration.

[rug]

5. I think that will be the difference in November. Democrats will say the war is wrong,

Republicans will simply say it's been bungled.

[guruoo]

6. Dems need to talk about the waste of money too....

if we want to win over moderate Repugs.

[rug]

8. Absolutely, and tie that waste with the devastion of domestic programs.

[guruoo]

11. Exactly, and this...

was somewhat of a minor hit, too:
Oil prices-Saudi Arabia-9/11 terrorists were all Saudis

[Mooney]

9. The people who would be predisposed to that school of thought

don't believe that the US is losing. They just think that the media is reporting it that way because they're a bunch of damn liberals who "want" the US to lose, for whatever reason. The closest you would ever get to an admission of loss on their part was the months and months of them saying "the surge is working." In order for the surge to "work," then it would have to have addressed a problem of some sort. But they don't like to engage in that type of logic. Still, it was an admission of loss, whether they realized it or not.

My experience has been that people are either all in or all out at this point. People who still believe the war can be won don't believe we're losing. Then you have the intelligent people, who know it's a lost cause. The only variation that I've observed among the latter group is among the people who debate the relative merits of attacking Iraq in the first place, and the people who debate how to get out. But they all agree that it's not working out.

[rug]

10. Agreed.

[guruoo]

12. Conservative's prevailing opinion has taken quite a turn in the past year or so

from my experience.

[Mooney]

14. Well, on some level, they must know they fucked up.

Whether or not they'll admit it is another story.

[guruoo]

17. Yeah, but I try to be nice, stick to the issues, use terms like 'administration' instead of

'Bush crime family'. But you can tell they know
what's up, and who's responsible.

[izquierdista]

7. Do you point out?

That gas prices have tripled under their prodigal son Dubya? That INS enforcement actions have been cut 95% under W? That's right, Clinton had 20 times more enforcement actions against employers of illegals than Georgie has. I guess the war speaks for itself.

[guruoo]

13. Yes, but more and more often I find that they are the ones telling me

all about it, leaving me with little more left to do than
just stand there and nod my head!