It is happening. If my Fox "News" watching, Limbaugh-Hannity listening

[AlinPA]

dental assistant says she had enough of Bush** and wants change and wants Obama to win the primary, then something is really happening. I almost fell out of the chair. I have listened to her for 15 years yakking in my ear, reciting right-wing junk she heard on Fox or RW radio. She pinched me a few times accidentally this time and I didn't mind it a bit.

[tekisui]

1. My mom said the same thing.

She also said she could never tell her dad she voted Dem.

[pretzel4gore]

2. being for the 'needs of the many' over 'privilege for a few' was thought shameful?

if the democratic party is leftist, and the repubs rightist, then only moneyed elitists are rightwing but...so many examples of 'lifelong republicans' who looked upon democratic party voters as somehow obscene, lacking in morality. Weird, when one considers what's at stake (social prosperity, and freedom, versus wage slavery, and enforced legality)

[mwb970]

3. This is the part I don't understand.

If you honestly look at the policies that liberals and Democrats espouse and advocate, there is a clear bias toward helping people in general, whether with finances or education, or workplace safety, or armor for troops, or health care, or whatever. The conservative/Republican response is always to block any such effort in favor of corporations and/or the super-rich.

Polls of the American people show that the liberal/Democratic position is favored by a majority in every identifiable policy area, even finances, the "war on terror", and foreign relations.

Yet in the face of this we have the "lifelong Republicans" you describe who find the efforts of liberals to be somehow un-American rather than representing the very heart and soul of the nation (a liberal democracy) as they do.

Why do they continue to believe this palpably, demonstrably false characterization? Is it really because they are afraid of gay people? Or of terrorists? Why are they unable to detect the false spin in right-wing "news" sources and commentary? Where is their "Hey, wait a minute" gene?

I really, really don't get these people.

[ruby slippers]

6. their hey wait a minute gene is in their mortgages, their gas tanks,

their grocery shopping carts, their falling portfolios, etc. I think they are finally starting to see how the other half lives....

I laughed just today because I have been buying groceries on sales and saving gas by driving smaller cars and learning how to cook and save and scrimp and all so it just comes natural. I don't feel panicked one bit. But, to someone who never had to cook meals because they always just ate out or could go shopping all the time instead of refurbishing things, or whose Caddy's and SUV's were roomy and road-hugging but are now too expensive to drive while I putt putt on my scooter or my little Saturn, I just laugh....and I have been, all the way to the bank. My smaller home and smaller mortgage is nearly paid off, my hubby's pension is safe in an annuity and not stocks, and I am looking forward to retirement with a big smile on my face. While they are sitting home learning how to cook, I will be off traveling....

[lib2DaBone]

4. Who Will Pay...?

They may admit that they are right wing "nuts"... and MAYBE they made a mistake. Oh no, Republicans can never make a mistake.. they are flawless. But who will pay for the damage they have done to millions of Americans? People living in tents under freeways. Babies with no food. Hard working Americans with no home. You can thank the Republican mindset.

[FlyingSquirrel]

5. ..

:kick:

[bhikkhu]

7. In my gun-totin' Fox watchin' deer hunting Rush loving church going town too...

I have had a boss for the past three years who is all of the above (a bow hunter though - never gets anything but loves the game). He despised Kerry for all the reasons Rush laid out, despises Hillary for all the reason Rush laid out...but he likes Obama. When the Wright thing was being hammered day in and day out on talk-radio he was upset about it one day, but it only took about three facts about "the sound-bytes" for him to agree it was wrong how it was being played.

The other day he watched the clip of Obama's three on three game and told me "your guy is good", as we had laughed before about the bowling thing...I have had some similar exchanges with others in my RW part of the country.

Not to make too much of it, but Obama has a foot in a door that was barred shut years ago to Hillary, and to anyone with a (D).

[woolldog]

8. Yup, the nominee just needs to keep tying McCain to Bush.

[Secret_Society]

9. In my area it's much different

My parents, along with many others, who are independent minded economic and national security republicans, say that they would consider Hillary (though I know probably not vote for her) but are very opposed to Obama. They were especially bothered by "typical white person." While I know that this is an effect of the media and especially FOX watching, one has to understand that most voters don't really investigate who they will vote for. Perception becomes reality.

[pretzel4gore]

10. why not Rush?

if your folks don't mind being conned, why not suggest to them to make Rush their 'write in'? lol... The doped-up gasbag has all the answers, and since the country is outta gas, flat tires in a swamp with the waters rising and angry crocs all snapping for a good feed'o'dingbat lol (no insult intended hahaha)...but why not Rush for prez? would he be any worse then the Youngster?