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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:21 PM Original message |
Why do Clinton supporters keep saying Obama played the race card? |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because part of her strategy is to call him out for playing the race card. . . |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. Dead on accurate. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
83. May 13, 2007 - Obama interviewed in This Week by Clinton butt-kisser Stephanopoulus |
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DearAbby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama plays the race card? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. because like hillary and bill they're consumate liars |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. No. They believe it to be true. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. Gullible, then. nt |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. Not at all |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #53 |
71. A Lie Is Not "A Different Point Of View" - It's Just A Lie |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Black and white thinking is sexist. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. Whatever |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. treachery is a different point of view |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Obama is not a traitor. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. Truth does not have a point of view. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Ah Truth |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Fine. No problem. Just don't publicly ascribe it to Obama playing |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Enough already. |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh hell! It is simple. HRC had no need to play the race card. Damn! |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I seem to remember |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:37 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. If memory serves, the "Jesse Jackson" comment happened the morning of the SC Primary. |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
40. Yeah, and we know Bill doesn't lie. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
80. But Obama had no choice? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Because they believe it to be true |
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Liberal Gramma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
7. SOP |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's the "Race Card Card". |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. Because he's black. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. And he's winning. |
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Gore1FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
45. The nerve of the man! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:27 PM Original message |
To Distract from hilary playing the |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Karl Rove Says: Attack Your Opponent On YOUR OWN Weakness |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
11. Here's a recent untruthiness OP & what Obama actually said: |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. and where is the word black, brown, or |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. He was probably thinking it |
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Mooney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. Becasue they're full of shit. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
13. Monkey projection |
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4themind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
14. Because its a cliche, that's nebulous enough to be fit to the writer's intent. Heck |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
15. Because lying is part of their stratagy. |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
17. Obama has been playing the race card since he left Jethro in Alabama and took up with Pookie. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
19. Because that's what racists do when they get caught being racist towards blacks. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Thank you. It really is that simple. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. TO nails it again. |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
21. Desperation |
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cui bono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
22. The Clinton meme is to accuse Obama of everything bad the Clinton camp has done. n/t |
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clevbot (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. tri-ang-u-lation |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. Off the top of my head I'll give you a couple times.... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I know it's a waste of time, but here's my response to your claims |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. You don't need to be insulting to me. Get over yourself. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. FYI, WJC ain't black. |
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jbm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. early in the campaign... |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I've heard from several sources that there's proof out there |
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jbm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. when I talk about proof, I'm only referencing the written strategy.. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. He knew that, he's just being an Obama supporter. nt |
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jbm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. thanks for the reassurance... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Proof that you somehow just can't quite come up with, |
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Shae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
64. typical Obama supporter ... |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. "proof is floating around out there somewhere" |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #28 |
52. Her campaign questioned whether he was a drug dealer |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
31. Just another Rovian tactic they've adopted. |
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jr7 (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
36. dishonesty and or an extremely distorted sense of reality based on a lack of ethics, hatred, and arr |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
38. 'Cause like their leader, they'll say anything. Doesn't have to be true, just say anything. |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
42. They say "Obama took it out of context." In fact, it was supporters and the media |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
44. the term race card itself is racist |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. DING! We have a winner! .nt |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. And saying it, and saying it. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
48. Projection. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
49. If you really want to know, read this piece from the New Republic |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Wilentz is a flack whose own editors at TNR reamed him as a racist. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Wilentz is a widely respected professor at Princeton |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Doesn't mean he's not a liar, a racist and a flack. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. the two other writers at TNR you used as an example are Obama flacks |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Supporting a candidate doesn't make one a flack. Lying does. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Sorry, they're both discredited |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Only the liar was discredited, publicly, in his own publication. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. the only reputable one of the three is Wilentz |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Your personal opinion isn't worth a hill of beans, sorry. (n/t) |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. please keep responding so more people will read the article |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. Sure. And here's that link again: |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. And here's the New Republic link |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Link: |
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jbm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
86. that's a very well researched article |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
50. Projection! Bubba Clinton will NOT ever recover with the AA Community ... |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
57. It's a republican (Rove) tactic. Blame your opponent for stuff YOU are doing |
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groovytang (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
58. I don't understand it either. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
59. Here's One Example |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
62. Because all they know how to do is SPIN and LIE ! |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
63. It first happened when he accused Bill Clinton of playing the race card... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
70. It's typical Rovian tactic - accuse your opponent first of exactly what you're doing in hopes that |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
81. Read this (it will take a while) |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. That's not writing, that's typing. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Close your ears and eyes |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #81 |
89. Reading that will make Obama followers tear up their membership cards. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
88. Obama apologizes for memo plot to play race card, tells staff to never do it again. Link: |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
92. It's Rovian Projection... i.e.. accuse your opponent of the things YOU are doing..... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-26-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
93. Republican tricks... |
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