Johnny__Motown
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:32 PM
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Allowing SD from MI + FL to vote is simply insane (and I live in MI) |
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These are the people who supported breaking the rules to begin with.
I can understand the argument that the pledged delegates should be seated with 1/2 a vote each. I don't agree with it but I do at least understand the argument.
I just don't see the rationalization for allowing super delegates to be seated (in any meaningful way) after all the trouble they have caused.
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:33 PM
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1. It's for political reasons |
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Federally elected Democratic officials and governors have a lot of political pull.
Thus they will be seated with a full vote each.
Michigan will probably end up being split 50-50. Florida may be as well.
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:40 PM
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5. I don't have a problem with a 50-50 split.. why I said (in any meaningful way) |
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:34 PM
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2. Wonder if the situation were reversed and Obama was in the position that Hillary is in now. |
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I bet all those race cards would be thrown on the table by now. And Sharpton and all the rest would be out there screaming and demanding that MI and FL be seated because those rules were designed just to keep certain people from winning the nomination.
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:38 PM
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:50 PM
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8. The real question is if the situation were reversed what would |
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Hillary be saying? Wouldn't she be saying Obama agreed to the rules from the first, and he shouldn't be trying to bend the rules because he won?
Get serious.
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Johnny__Motown
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:39 PM
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4. Obama would have been forced out by now if he was behind in Pledged delegates, states won, money |
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raised and every reasonable popular vote count
Think what would be said if Hillary had taken her name off the Michigan ballot to help preserve the system and Barack didn't
OMG.. think of the things that would be said about him trying to count the votes now
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:44 PM
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6. When the FACTS aren't on your side, just resort to speculation and conjecture. |
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:eyes: It sure gets deep here.
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:57 PM
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10. lol. let's deal with reality- we have filth like lyin' terry mccauliff |
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screaming that MI should be seated when the toad said last election cycle to Levin that no way would MI's delegation be seated if they broke the DNC rules HE instituted and moved their primary up. hillworlders can't deal with reality too well. and what's the point of throwing sharpton's name out? never mind. I know why you hilldroids do that vile crap. take it to freeperville.
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Sat Apr-26-08 08:00 PM
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11. If the roles were reversed |
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Obama would have had to drop out in February after losing 12 in a row.
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Sat Apr-26-08 08:41 PM
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:48 PM
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7. Well in Florida I believe it was a Republican legislature |
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that moved up the primary for what that's worth.
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Sat Apr-26-08 07:52 PM
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9. All the dems voted for it. They didn't fight it. You should see the video Madfloridian posted |
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I can't find the link right now but OMG...
It was of the state legislature and the leading dem saying he had to put a protest on the record even though he and the other dems wanted the vote moved up
Then they all had a good laugh
I will try to find the link. It wasn't a Youtube
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Sat Apr-26-08 08:12 PM
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13. The video has been removed from Youtube by the user, sorry. I am looking for another link |
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Sat Apr-26-08 08:02 PM
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12. The bill that moved the primary |
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was introduced by a Democrat.
The legislature had a single vote against the bill.
The Democrats wanted it more than the Republicans and convinced the Republicans to go along with it.
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Sat Apr-26-08 08:39 PM
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14. I'm from Michigan, and I agree with you. |
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Rewelz is rewelz.
All of the candidates (and the states) knew the procedures long before the primaries started. I'm pissed off at our state party for disenfranchising us. But I don't think our delegates should be counted.
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