Obama is simply suffering the same fate that so many candidates have before him;

[ginchinchili]

the more you get to know him the more you liked him better when you didn't know him so well. You start noticing the warts. It really has little to do with his race, either half.

[anonymous171]

1. The media has turned on him in order to get a brokered convention

[Tellurian]

8. Does Obama pass out a standard copy to his supporters of 1,000,000 excuses

when posting opposite Hillary supporters...Sounds like you've always find a new excuse!

[anonymous171]

13. You're one to talk, being a frequenter hillaryis44 you should know about propaganda

Oh, and spam.

[PerfectSage]

So what's Hillary's "vote for me I'm inevitable.. ...it'll all be over by super Tuesday"'s excuse?

Hillary: "I'm a stupid colon who couldn't shit my way out of a wet paper bag to victory if my life depended on it?"

[Zhade]

52. TUZLA.

NT!

[Jamastiene]

56. OMG

Great comeback. :thumbsup: Good one.

[Butch350]

59. 8. Does Obama pass out a standard copy to his supporters of 1,000,000 excuses

Your as full of bullshit as the candidate your support. ;))

[cliffordu]

2. This is very true:

Which is why YOUR candidate is now a trite afterthought in the Presidential race. One that doesn't even rate a debate and who, if it wasn't for her husbands' fame and coattails wouldn't even have a Senate seat.


fail

[ginchinchili]

11. If my candidate was the nominee, this mess would all have been avoided

and the Democrats would have guaranteed themselves the next POTUS. But the Democrats just aren't very good at picking winners.

[JVS]

19. Wrong. Your candidate would be clobbered in the fall by millions of people who have been hating...

her for 16 years and the fact that a lot of Dems find her record to be uninspiring at best.

[ginchinchili]

22. My candidate was Joe Biden.

Hillary is just the lesser of the current crop of evils.

[lisa58]

23. Really?

[FrenchieCat]

3. Well, Hillary is one big giant wart, and McCain is a big toad......

So I'll take some Obama with his small flaws.

[ccharles000]

6. Hillary is a lovely person.

[BlueIdaho]

29. Answer me this

Did SHE inhale?

[rodeodance]

55. did she??

[elleng]

31. And strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Y52Yo66Ss

[ginchinchili]

18. That's mature.

You must be one of those young, impressionable Obama supporters.

[cliffordu]

25. Heh. A Caine toad.....

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[EFerrari]

4. If you're trying to normalize the Clinton's dirty tactics,

you're not being very convincing.

[NJSecularist]

5. I feel the same way.

I still like Obama, but not nearly as much as I did when I first got to know him. He's beginning to exposed as an empty suit.

[RaleighNCDUer]

45. Riiight.

That's why you've been bashing him for the past 6 months - because you like him.

[graycem]

7. Then I guess that means

Hillary is in real trouble. She began this thing with many people having a strong negative opinion of her. Oops.

[ginchinchili]

21. It's a different dynamic. People already know Hillary, warts and all.

[graycem]

28. People THOUGHT they knew Hillary...

Myself included. No different.

[ginchinchili]

40. To suggest that people's knowledge of Clinton and Obama is the same...

shows an inability to reason with the facts. It shows the same kind of blind support rightwingers had for Bush, and I don't think you want that.

[graycem]

54. You are quite right...

It shows that in light of new facts that does not support her good character, judgment, etc. some people still follow her blindly. I do not want that indeed. But I also know that there's no convincing someone who does not wish to be convinced. Another thing I do not want is your condescencion. Thanks though. :)

My mother liked Bill Clinton, and never liked Hillary. I used to defend her to my mother. I don't anymore because she was right.

Let's leave at we both disagree because we are biased. ;-)

[Forkboy]

9. That's why Hillary's negatives are the highest. We've known her for forever now.

Or at least it seems that way.

[kid a]

10. I'm liking him better - he's got a mean left hand, reverse lay-up!

[cliffordu]

16. I didn't see it - does he have any kind of jumper? Hook??

[Solomon]

12. Pay closer attention. You're missing it. He is demonstrating

his superior qualities for the job by the manner in which he is running his campaign.

That's a fact. And that's what's carrying him through.

The more they kick him, he better he looks. He is demonstratinn leadership, integrity, fiscal responsibility, economic know how, everything by running a campaign against the most powerful interests in America.

And he does it without threatening anybody. Something new in american politics.

[ginchinchili]

26. If your theory was true, he'd have run away with Pennsylvania.

But he lost by a sizable margin.

[RaleighNCDUer]

47. That's just silly.

He lost by 9 points where she started with a 25 point advantage. Sure, he spent a lot of money, which forced HER to spend a lot of money she couldn't afford so that she could hang in there in a state she should have won walking away. As a result, she's got nothing going into 5/6, and he's going to take both NC AND IN, and that's all she wrote. Stick a fork in her, she's done.

Sounds like pretty sound strategic thinking, to me.

[Cali_Democrat]

14. No shit?

That's strange. I like him even more now than I did 5 months ago.

[ginchinchili]

27. It doesn't apply to Koolaid drinkers.

[grantcart]

15. Not me

The more I see him the better I like him, and the smarter I think he is.


While everyone is busy about the primary he has already outflanked McCain and has started laying the foundation for a GE landslide.


You can keep looking for the warts.

[Solomon]

50. Yep.

He is running a hell of a campaign. Textbook. Civics 101. Oh wait, they don't teach this anymore.

[lisa58]

17. not my feeling at all...

...I like him better all the time

[Rosa Luxemburg]

20. Obama doesn't have any warts

[ginchinchili]

30. Of course not. He's perfect.

[NJSecularist]

36. That's the common netroots meme. You better get used to it. They have their messiah. n/t

[ginchinchili]

41. No man or woman is as good as many of Obama's supporters make him out to be.

When I see that kind of adoration it throws up a red flag for me.

[99th_Monkey]

24. Why did Obama narrow HIll's lead from 20% to 10% in PA then?

Obama's numbers have held steady throughout the shit-storm Billary has been stirring up.

Believe me, the only people "suffering" as a result of increased exposure are the Clinton,
as they dive daily deeper into this mire of their own making.

People are getting their eyes opened to see the "true" Clintons to be corporatist slime-machine
lackeys willing to sacrifice their party for their own WH ambitions.

[anonymous171]

32. 9% actually.

[ginchinchili]

34. I think the question should be, why did he lose by 10% with such a huge financial advantage?

If he can't win the primaries in states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida, Michigan, California, or New York, than the risk that he'd lose in those must-win states to John McCain is too great. The Democrats have really painted themselves into a corner with this one.

[anonymous171]

38. ROFL!

:rofl:

[RaleighNCDUer]

48. Because he couldn't take as many blue state voters from an

entrenched machine as the other blue candidate, the state will go red.

THAT'S WHY HE'S GOING TO WIN.

The other side does not have logic, reason, or math on their side.

[merh]

33. the same can be said of hillary

n/t

[ginchinchili]

42. Sure, except that people already know Hillary.

[merh]

44. not the negative, petty side she has been showing in this campaign

and that same thing can be said of bill as well.

[Hamlette]

35. not me, the more I see, the more I like him

I'm always afraid the Hillary smear machine "got him" this time but the next day, he responds as an adult with reason.

Its exactly the opposite for me with Hillary.

The more I see of her, the more I hate her.

[stillcool]

37. It depends on how one...

is 'getting to know him'. If people depend on the media to do their thinking for them, I believe you are right. Fortunately, more people are waking up every day to what the media is pimping. I think those that watch Fox, do have a problem with "both his races", and everything that brings to mind for them. God, I love the internets..except for the echo chamber.

[Cheap_Trick]

39. I USED to support Bill and Hillary

until I got to know them better. Not so much now.

[jeanruss]

43. mainstream media keeps eliminating populists

The trend is now obvious in the corporate owned media. One by one they have been giving terrible publicity to the most populist candidates. First they prevented Kucinich and Gravel from being ib debates, then they refused to even mention John Edwards NAME even when he came in second in Iowa. Now they will try to crucify Obama. After that it will be Clinton, because John McCain is their new errand boy. He will continue their bidding as Bush did. It seems we really have a shadow government who owns our media. I wonder what the Founders of our Constitution would have thought of our media being owned by corporations? They would have started a WAR HERE before they had allowed such a thing. I think they would have had contempt for how docile Americans and the Congress have been.

[swishyfeet]

46. Simply bullshit

Obama gains ground in these states where there's a long leadup before the primary. Hillary loses ground.

That he does so well despite Hillary's kitchen sink, negative campaigning - while try to stay positive is exactly why he's winning right now.

Face it. Hillary is in it right now for the enormous number of old women who want ANY woman to be prez before they die. They'll vote for Obama in November because he has lead an honest campaign, is a good dem, and because November is 6 months away.

[Binka]

49. Struggling With Your Syntax Dear? This Sentence Is A Farking Joke

"the more you get to know him the more you liked him better when you didn't know him so well." My six year old communicates and writes better than this. Jesus and you are how old?

[Midwestern Democrat]

51. One of the cruel ironies of this primary season was the fact that this thing

started ridiculously early - and yet, it does not seem the extra eight months was used at all for the purposes of vetting. Really, really disappointing.

[johnnydrama]

53. right

that's why Hillary hasn't gained any support in the last 16 months. She's simply the name recognition candidate.

In September, Obama was polling at 14% in PA.

Is it opposite day here?

[wileedog]

57. Which is why everyone hates Hillary now

Thanks for pointing that out

[Secret_Society]

58. True...

Our appreciation of what really matters is not equivalent of average voters. People are seeing that Obama is actually a politician with all the yuckiness that comes with that.

[bhikkhu]

60. Quite the opposite in my neck of the woods

The more we see, the more there is. I imagine it is a learning process - adapt or leave the game.

Your "either half" thing, by the way, sticks out like a sore thumb, rotting.