Call it for what it is - Obama is scared to debate Hillary again.

[Skip Intro]

Will be the highest-rated debate ever. No mean moderators. Just Barack and Hillary. Everybody watching.

You'd think if you have a real message to the masses, you'd welcome such a vast audience.

You'd think if your message is so vastly superior to that of your rival's, you wouldn't hesitate to display it.

You'd think if you believed in the power of your ideas, you'd not cower to such an exchange of ideas.

Why would you?


Unless you're scared?

[DJ13]

1. Childish taunts are straight out of the GOP playbook

Its no surprise you Clinton supporters use them.

[Jawja]

And Clinton is using the GOP playbook because it

inspires her supporters to make the childish taunts.

If Hillary had really wanted to debate Obama in North Carolina, she would have taken the original offer. She is just inviting him to debate NOW so that she and her supporters can go around and call him "afraid to debate her."

Obama doesn't need to debate Hillary. He is effectively "excused" from ever having to debate HER again because all of America witnessed the farce that ABC put on, called it a "debate."

Hillary is desperate for the airtime.

Good for Obama for saying "enough."

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. He doesn't need to debate. He's winning.

It's always the loser who wants to debate in order to get free publicity. Hillary is out of money, so a debate is a good way to get on TV without having to pay for it.

[CatnHat]

106. Obama

is on a losing streak. Hillary is a proven candidate--winning the states the democrats MUST win in November--Obama is just not getting the votes needed to win in the democratic states. That's a fact. As far as money, Hillary is getting more money than Obama since PA primary--Hillary is calling him out--the guy is just plain scared.

[bobbert]

116. The red Sox had a 3-game losing streak last year, what happened to them?

Why would he be worried?

[Qutzupalotl]

117. Was it a losing streak when Hillary lost 12 in a row?

Obama loses one, and that's a streak? In your dreams.

Are you seriously speculating that Obama will not win big Democratic states in November when he's the nominee? You think California or New York are going for McCain? You do know that's been debunked six ways to Sunday around here, right?

Obama has debated Hillary over 20 times. Didn't seem scared of her at all.

[CatnHat]

124. It happened before

with Reagan. It could very well happen again.

Obama has no respect for the middle class working folks. That's a fact--coming from his own mouth. Now he is scrambling this week to try to act like a "typical" working class guy--give me a break--The Bush, Jr. supporters fell for Bush's act, guess the Obama apologists aren't much different. Its so friggin' obvious--well, guess his crazy uncle pastor says it all; Obama is just a politician. Obama is no agent of change, that's for sure.

[democracy1st]

132. She's with the DLC she would be easy

[2rth2pwr]

136. Hillary was way ahead when the candidates started debating, she didn't

turn tail and run. Obama's looking more and more like he's scared of her.

[panader0]

3. Face the facts. Hillary's the one who is scared.

[leftofcool]

10. The why won't your candidate debate her?

[John Q. Citizen]

24. He doesn't need to. She's begging. "Please please debate me, give me five bucks! I am strong!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Don't prostitute yourself for her. It's tacky.

[dchill]

88. Winners do not debate losers. That is all. FAIL.

:shrug:

[CatnHat]

125. Hardly

Clinton tells it like it is--like it or not.

[leftofcool]

4. Obama has no cajones

He lost every debate to Hillary and he knows he would lose one in North Carolina

[tabatha]

13. If there were

a decent guy, who is a gentleman and has played by the rules,
and there is a bully, who is turning everybody off, and is losing, and is demanding

don't you think the gentleman should put a stop to the bully and call a time out

[leftofcool]

20. He should debate

[John Q. Citizen]

42. He should debate John McCain. Hillary should debate with her creditors. That's fair.

[Binka]

56. You Should Go To Bed And Take Your Crappy Art With You

I've had it with you. Later creepy freak.

[nebula]

70. Gentlemen/nice guys shouldn't be in US politics

they will get eaten alive.

Obama needs to grow a spine for once. Not that he should debate her again,
but he is being way too passive in the face of relentless vicious attacks on him.

I hope he doesn't turn out to be another Kerry.

[SwampG8r]

91. no i disagree

hes proving you can get your point across with out the viciousness
i dont see him as passive
it takes strength of will to stay on point
he is just not reactionary

[JackORoses]

21. actually, Hillary is the one with no cajones

Hillary is done for. She is much too far right of cool.

[John Q. Citizen]

35. I think he should take pity on her and send her $5. You should too.

[dchill]

90. Winners do not debate losers. That is all. FAIL.

[kevinmc]

5. She's Losing and Broke .... he doesn't need her. n/t

[newmajority]

6. Isn't 21 fucking debates enough??

Not that most of them were actually debates. Certainly the last one wasn't.

[rodeodance]

151. 10 M. listened in last time. Hillary has a populist message. They want to know

the issues.

people are willing to listen in. sure they tune out some. but it is to Obama's demise that he comes across as dissing them

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Because 21 Debates Is Not Enough?

Exactly what is wrong with you? Seriously.

What more can they debate? She loves war, he hates it. She lies, he's truthful.

That's about it, really.

21 debates ain't enough? Feh.

BTW - why wouldn't The War Goddess have even ONE debate with her Democratic challenger for senator? Any thoughts on that?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

80. its like the primaries, she wants "mulligan" debates, she also needs the validation

that a debate would give her. It would lend "legitimacy" to her campaign.

[tabatha]

8. No.

It is a case of "enabling" a bully - who does not play by the rules, and plays gotcha politics.

[leftofcool]

11. I love the excuses you O supporters make

[tabatha]

15. No, it is timeout for a brat.

She has to learn that she cannot get away with the crap she is playing.

[rodeodance]

22. yes, little brat Obama needs some time to prepare since he bombed it last time.

[John Q. Citizen]

29. She's so pathetic. "Please please debate me. Make me relevant!" Send $5.

Please mister, just debate me. Being on the same stage with you is an honor!"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[VolcanoJen]

34. If he does debate her, I'll bet she wears a "HillaryClinton.Com" t-shirt.

SEND ME MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[rodeodance]

39. and Barry will wear his new Fox T-shirt. saying I love FOX

[VolcanoJen]

51. Hey, at least mine was funny.

Hyping your website like an ATM is kinda hysterical to me. And, luckily, the totals are entirely unverifiable! How Hillary-esque. :-)

Looking forward to Obama and Chris Wallace tomorrow. Remember when Bill handed that jerky his ass? I do.

[Eric Condon]

78. Okay, that doesn't make a damn bit of sense.

Which campaign has been singing the praises of Faux News the whole time? That's right, the Zellary campaign. Where the HELL are you getting this idea that Obama "loves Fox?"

[Eric Condon]

84. I love it when Hillbots BLAME OBAMA for the last debate.

Imagine if Gibson and Stephanopolous had asked Hillary questions about Monica, Whitewater, Vince Foster's death, etc. Would we, the Obama supporters, embrace that and accuse her of "not being able to answer tough questions?" No, we'd call ABC out on peddling that kind of worthless tabloid trash. I guess I gave Zellary and her supporters too much credit to expect them to do the same. Face it: asking Obama about Wright and flag pins is like asking the Clintons about any of that shit - it's stupid, distracting and has no place in politics. But, since having the corporate media paint Obama as unelectable is the only way Zellary can hope to convince the SDs to overturn the will of the voters, she and her blind followers are just fine with it.

[rodeodance]

149. ha ha. Obama miscalulated again He thought he controled the media--but

he found out he does not. He was not prepared to answer questions cause he arrogantly believed those issues were behind him.

[dchill]

92. Winners do not debate losers. That is all. FAIL.

[LeFleur1]

154. The Race Is Not Over Yet

The race is not over yet. Much as you would like it to be.
There may have been 21 TV appearances with questions asked by moderators, but there has never been a debate. It would be wonderful to see an actual debate.

[dchill]

159. It would have been wonderful...

:shrug:

[dchill]

93. Dupe.

[Swamp Rat]

9. LOLOL!!!!

:D

[VolcanoJen]

33. Oh gawd

Thanks, asshole, I now have Bud Light coming out of my nose.

It burns! It burns!!!!

;-)

[Kittycat]

She turned him down first. Get your story straight.

[zulchzulu]

12. Hillary is a freeloader who's broke and can't pay for her own TV commercials

There have been 21 debates. What else does Hillary want to lie about now?

:shrug:

I would advise people who want Hillary on TV to contribute to her campaign...then she can be on the tube.

[Alexander]

14. Did you have this much poutrage when Clinton wouldn't debate John Spencer in NY?

[rodeodance]

19. stay focused. this is the presidential primaries.

[Alexander]

25. More double-standards from the Shillbots? Did you care about Clinton debating in 2006, yes or no?

No amount of poutrage, spin and double standards are going to get you out of this one.

[rodeodance]

37. No, I do not care. This is not 2006 and it is irrelevant. --suck on that

[Alexander]

45. So it's okay for Hillary to avoid debates, but not Obama. Nice double standard.

I see you flunked Logic 101.

"suck on that"

I don't think you want to use that phrase any more. The irony may escape you, but not us.

:spray:

[rodeodance]

48. you are the one with faulty "logic"---get a grip. Enough said on this issue. bye

[Forkboy]

49. Brave Sir Robin.

[TLM]

123. Boldly I tell you.... n/t

[Alexander]

53. Hillary avoids 1st debate = good, Obama avoids 22nd debate = bad. Total freeper logic.

Now who is the one running away from debates? You apparently refuse to discuss the issue, because you're such a sycophant you can't admit that Hillary avoiding a debate is exactly the same as Obama avoiding one.

You are loyal to the Clintons, not to the Democratic party or the country. Maybe Bill can find a job for you at a hedge fund after Hillary goes back to being New York's junior senator.

[SwampG8r]

96. i can explain why "suck on that"

is a poor choice for a clinton supporter to say
if it escapes you

[shellgame26]

144. HAHAHAHAHAH

You got plaaaaayed!

[SeattleGirl]

16. Yeah, he should man up! I mean, ONLY 21 debates?????

What a scardey-cat!

:sarcasm:

[rodeodance]

17. Of course he is scared. What a wimp.

[VolcanoJen]

38. So by your metric, the previous 21 times he wore the Red Badge of Courage?

He was the bravest of the brave? A real hero, to take on the Goddess of Peace? We should name bridges and high schools after him! Twenty-One Courageous Debates!

You've backed yourself into a sharp logical corner, here. :-)

[dchill]

95. Winners do not debate losers. That is all. FAIL.

[CatnHat]

129. Don't you love it

when all of Obama supporters have to come out and try to defend a guy who is scared to debate. All the dumb excuses in the book don't cut it--the guy will not debate because he is too busy whining about how he got beat up on the last debate. All the talk about comparing McCain to Bush, Jr.--well, I see some very serious character flaws with Obama who hides from the press. Sounds like a Bush, Jr. tactic to me. Obama campaign is nothing more than a bunch of whiners.

[Moochy]

158. welcome back to du

[Forkboy]

18. Call it for what it is - Hillary fans throwing a tantrum and reduced to namecalling.

Because they need this soooooo bad and people aren't biting.

[williesgirl]

23. She can't win and knows it. Wants him to screw up and get SD on her side. BS. Don't debate her.

[bluestateguy]

26. He has debated her 21 times

And I will not watch anymore debates.

She's simply desperate, hoping for some kind of gaffe that changes the equilibrium of the race. She's broke and she's clamoring for free media.

It's time for Obama to begin transitioning to general election mode, and gradually ignoring her.


And while we are on the subject, how many times did Hillary debate her primary opponents in her Senate races?

[guyanakoolaid]

27. Haha, Obama supporters are "chickens" and "brats" and "latte liberals"...

and getting ready to take on John McCain. Some Clinton supporters still haven't gotten the hint that they've lost.

[VolcanoJen]

28. I expect Hillary's camp to pull the "Chicken-Outside-Obama-Events" stunt any minute now.

Seriously. And it will be as fuckin' lame as it always is, every time some losing politician pulls it. :-)

[DearAbby]

54. They are gonna hire someone

to dress in a chicken suit, and parade around "Clucking". My advise to that person...GET YOUR MONEY UP FRONT!

[VolcanoJen]

59. Or....

... just put Mark Penn in the suit. ;-)

[DearAbby]

66. Shit

can they find that many fecking feathers to fit that fat pudgy body? I shudder to think if a good stiff wind came along, there would be nothing left but a pile of feathers and a stubbled-pimply body.


RUN AWAAAAAY!

[VolcanoJen]

69. Shit!!!

Mark Penn's stubbled-pimply body and a pile of feathers!!!

The visual, it burns, it BURNS!!!!

[DearAbby]

71. RUN AWAAAAY!!.......n/t

[Skittles]

30. maybe he is just sick of debates

I know I am

[John Q. Citizen]

31. Obama should refuse to debate the dead-beat until she pays her debts.

[NanceGreggs]

32. Well, here ya go!

"Will be the highest-rated debate ever. No mean moderators. Just Barack and Hillary. Everybody watching."

Who's everybody in your scenario? The people who haven't heard it all and seen it all already - all three of them?

"You'd think if you have a real message to the masses, you'd welcome such a vast audience."

You'd think that if you actually had a real message to the masses, they would have contributed to your campaign, so you wouldn't need free air-time and could actually pay for your advertising!

"You'd think if your message is so vastly superior to that of your rival's, you wouldn't hesitate to display it."

You'd think that if your message is so vastly superior to your rival's, you wouldn't be losing.

"You'd think if you believed in the power of your ideas, you'd not cower to such an exchange of ideas."

You'd think that if Hillary believed in the "power of her ideas", she would have debated her opponent for the NY Senate seat - but she didn't.

"Why woudln't you?"

I take it that means "Why wouldn't Obama?" I think the answer is obvious: he has to prepare for accepting the nomination, and being President of the US.

Hillary is not distracted by such details - except in her own mind.

[Skip Intro]

40. That is about the weakest thing I think I've ever read from you.

Obama is turning down free airtime, turning down another opportunity for voters to consdier who their next president might be.

Too much democracy, I guess.



He can't debate because "he has to prepare for accepting the nomination?"

That's just scary.

[NanceGreggs]

57. Yes, Obama is turning down ...

... free air-time - because thanks to his supporters, he doesn't need "free air-time".

Voters have now have had an opportunity to have seen 20-plus debates; it's not exactly like they don't know who the two remaining candidates are, or where they stand on the issues. And if they didn't watch the first twenty or so debates, why do you think they're suddenly interested now?

Too much democracy? That's pretty rich coming from someone whose candidate-of-choice is more than willing (desperate?) to advocate the SDs overturning the will of the majority in order to hand her the nomination.

I guess that in her view (and yours) nothing could be more democratic than that.

Now, that's scary ...

[Skip Intro]

72. Wow, I had no idea, Nance. Just, ok, whatever. Hope hates debate. Discussion not good.

Got it.

Hope hates debate.

Thought there was more there, you know?

[NanceGreggs]

75. Well, that makes two of us ...

I thought there was "more there" to the reasoning behind why either candidate should waste their time on yet another debate - other than one of them being desperate for free air-time.

So far, no good answers forthcoming ...

Go figure!

[Skip Intro]

76. I'm sorry, but it's not a "waste" of time when those who seek to be your president explain to you

why you should vote for them.

Although, I can see how that would pale in respect to a grand coronation.


For some.

[NanceGreggs]

81. And pray do tell ...

... which candidate, after twenty-plus debates, still feels the need to make their case for qualifying as the next president?

Would it be the one who has yet to explain herself to the point of WINNING?

[Skip Intro]

83. There have been four one on one debates. Why does Obama fear a fifth?

[NanceGreggs]

87. You are mistaking "fear" ...

... with a dismissal of something that is not necessary nor productive.

If Hillary is so obviously the "better candidate", why does she need free air-time to make her case - yet again?

[CatnHat]

133. Because

there are many who are just getting to know Obama--believe it or not. And with Obama slipping--it would be in his best interest True to the Obama form--don't put Obama in any position where even Obama supporters know he'll do badly. That's the real reason. All this Clinton stuff is pure fluff. Clinton is pulling in loads of money--so why is Obama and his campaign against it--they know he sucks at debating. That's reality.

[Forkboy]

89. Strategy.

In battle the general with the strong hand lets the weaker and more desperate side waste their ammo/energy with little or no gain, all the while strengthening their own position. Smart generals don't take unnecessary risks, and would dismiss your claims of fear as pure nonsense, which they are. Whether you like it or not Obama is being smart, and the tantrums/taunts from Hillary supporters just show the depth of their desperation, and their maturity level when they don't get their way.

And let's face it, you know and I know that if the roles were reversed you'd be praising Hillary for not debating her challenger if she didn't need to. I don't expect you to admit that because it would point out your flaming hypocrisy. But between us, we know it's true, despite any denials you may toss out there for us.

[Seabiscuit]

105. When you're 0 for 4, 0 for 5 could be the kiss of death.

The hollow suit can't debate his way out of a wet paper bag. That's why.

[TLM]

131. And yet after 21 debates.... this guy who you say can't debate....

Has beaten everybody else.

[Seabiscuit]

145. Not in the debates he hasn't. And he keeps getting weaker and weaker as the MSM

has finally quit giving him a free pass and has finally begun subjecting him to just a pinch of the scrutiny they've been laying on Clinton for years. It's obviously rattled him, and it really shows in his debate performances.

[TLM]

130. Have Hillary's positions changed from when there were 3 or 4 or 5 candidates in the debates?

If not, there's no need for a 22nd debate....

[JTFrog]

146. Why couldn't she close the deal in 4?

Just another circle jerk.

[Eric Condon]

82. Because Hillbots have any room to talk about Obama supporters expecting a "grand coronation." nt

[TLM]

128. It is when they've already done so 21 times... n/t

[dchill]

97. Winners do not debate losers. That is all. FAIL.

This is actually kinda fun!

[TLM]

127. Obama is turning down free airtime... and in doing so denying free air time to Hillary...

Obama has a broad enough support that he can afford to buy airtime.

Hillary can't.


Which is why her supporters are whining about a 22nd debate.

[SwampG8r]

101. damn it mods i want to beable to k&r replies

bravo nance bravo

[DearAbby]

36. If Clinton was ahead at this point

You can be assured her advisors would be telling her the same thing...You yourself would be making this same argument I am right now...be truthful.

There is no need to give her campaign credibility by debating her yet again. Let her campaign pay for the air time...do it on her own dime.

[Seabiscuit]

41. No questions about flag pins or wackadoodle ministers. Just the issues you want to debate.

So what IS he afraid of?

[dchill]

98. *sigh* Winners do not debate losers. That is all. FAIL.

[rocktivity]

43. Call it for what it is--Hillary can no longer afford to run campaign commericals

rocknation

[VolcanoJen]

55. Hey!!!

I like the new drumkit!!!

:toast:

[rocktivity]

65. It's more of a rimshot kit--tailor-made for those extra-snarky one-liners.

My regular sig graphic has not been retired or anything like that.

:headbang:
rocknation

[HooptieWagon]

44. I call OP for what it is - Bullshit

They've already debated 20-some times... what more can be said? Plus, Clinton is foundering on the rocks, she's out of money and can't afford ad buys. Why should Obama give her free air-time? Obama's nomination is all but sealed, HilLiary needs to STFU and go home.

[DearAbby]

46. I would rather watch flies fuck

than another debate, at this point...there is absolutely no reason to hold another debate. Just let her campaign dry up and blow away.

The Debate I want to see is the one between McCain vs Obama...Lets get on with it.

[SwampG8r]

104. omg

i had to turn away
today i was watering palms and two cuban anoles were going at it like the world was gonna end
i was awestruck and watched til they were done
if they played that and asked them about anole fucking on wet palm trees......maybe then i might want another debate

edited to add pic

[johnnydrama]

47. nope

Hillary turned down the first proposed NC debate.

When you turn down a debate the other person had already agreed to for weeks, you lose the high ground forever.

[emilyg]

50. He does poorly in debates.

[VolcanoJen]

58. If that's the case, then apparently debates have no effect on the outcome of the elections.

Or else, he wouldn't be winning. Using your metric, of course.

So, if that's the case, why "debate" (as if it's a debate... it's a side-by-side press conference)? Far better to campaign and take the issues to the voters. Like, 99% of the people have already voted. Wouldn't it be better for both candidates to appeal directly to the remaining voters by holding town halls and letting them ask questions, then have the entire nation watch some press conference in which we have no voice, no recourse, no outlet in which to react to what we've just heard, since we've already voted?

[emilyg]

62. I made a comment - I am entitled to my opinion

why are you trying to pick a fight. I'm not.

[VolcanoJen]

63. Huh?

I'm not picking a fight. This is a discussion board, and I'm discussing. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, and I'm entitled to mine. And, this being a discussion board, why do you think I'm "fighting" when I was just fleshing out my own feelings on how silly this notion of yet another debate is?

If you don't want anyone to respond to your posts, then why go through the exercise?

:shrug:

[emilyg]

79. ok

:hug:

[VolcanoJen]

85. Yay!

:hug:

I seriously did not intend to seem bitchy or to be picking a fight!

:hug:

[dchill]

100. Winners do not debate losers. That is all. FAIL.

[TLM]

134. But he does great in elections and caucuses.

How horrible of a person and inept a candidate, must Hill be in order to be so far behind such an incompetent person a the one you describe when attempting to smear and attack Obama??

If he is as bad as you say, why is Hill still losing?

[MidwestTransplant]

52. Who would debate somebody with nothing to lose on that person terms? She will throw down the

gauntlet. Nothing to gain by Obama. He is kicking her ass. This is as good as over.

[SwampG8r]

107. nothing to gain says it all

why even take the chance and besides shes the one that blew off the debate in the first place
kind of douchebaggy to cry about it now

[The River]

60. It's Just Smart Campaigning

something Camp Clinton can't seem to do.

She needs the free air time...
why give it to her?

She needs for him to make a major gaffe...
why risk it this close to NC & IN when he is ahead?

All she has left is smear tactics...
why give her a chance to use them?

If 21 debates hasn't been enough to
get you to see through her ego driven, nepotism stained
sham of a candidacy, one more debate won't help.

[boppers]

61. Hillary's chickens have come home to roost.

She played the game long enough, and now she's reaping what she sowed.

[rodeodance]

67. Obama is the rooster. And he can't produce a good debate.

[boppers]

77. Wow, you don't know much about chickens, I'd guess.

I raised them for years. Here's what you just implied:
"Obama already has control of the situation, and Hillary is a subservient member of the rooster's harem, vying for his attention."

With chickens, the rooster is *always* at top of the "pecking order". When there are multiple roosters, they have their own order, but the hens are always lower.

Oh, and FWIW, "pecking order" is real. I've seen chickens pecked to death for stepping out of line.

[SwampG8r]

109. grrrr you beat me to it

i miss having chickens

[boppers]

114. I raised mostly Rhode Island Reds

We peaked at 42 or so, with 3 roosters. (Yes, that was kinda high). We sold fertilized, organic (though that wasn't a label at the time), eggs to the local food co-op.

Yourself?

[SwampG8r]

141. just yardbirds for eggs and dinner

[graycem]

64. He has NEVER

had a problem fielding questions from the audience as he did in CNN's so-called Compassion Forum. He did quite well because they were genuine, legitimate questions from a potential supporters, not someone who was hostile to him. In my opinion he wasn't stern enough with George and Chuck E Cheesehead, he should've said I will begin answering when you ask REAL questions that concern REAL citizens of this country. I am running for President, not Prom King.

And the other good thing about him, he sees these childish taunts for what they are. She better get back to fundraising so she can buy her own airtime.

[thewiseguy]

68. There have been 20+ debates already. Hillary should drop out

[Milo_Bloom]

73. Why waste time on her? She lost the nomination.

[Popol Vuh]

74. Yawn

:nopity:

[SwampG8r]

110. to make a point

heres 21 violin players
:nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity::nopity:

anyone gonna notice 1 more?is 1 more going to change the sound?

[Secret_Society]

86. Reminds me of the current President that doesn't like to give press conferences

To lead the people you cannot be afraid of exposing yourself to them.

[anonymous171]

102. 21 debates

[Secret_Society]

103. If 21 why not 22?

[bhikkhu]

94. 21 tries for a straight answer. And that's just the debates.

Not to unfairly criticize, but I generally try very hard to form my opinions of the candidates directly from the words of the candidates themselves. HRC is a master of the art of answering a question by saying nothing at all about something entirely different from the question posed. Why debate when you can predict with near certainty the lack of value of the results?

[smalll]

99. Ba-rok-bok-bok-bok-bok!

[susankh4]

157. Which marketing firm do you work for, smalll?

This is genius. Ba - rok bok bok bok....

Better copyright quick!

It's gonna have legs, uh er drumsticks!

:kick:

:toast:

:yourock:

[Cheap_Trick]

108. oooh..why don't Hillary TRIPLE DOG DARE him?

I agree. Obama SHOULD debate Hillary one more time. This time, he needs to take off the kid gloves he's been handling her with and put on the brass knuckles.

[SwampG8r]

111. nope

he needs to let her implode under her debt
and remain presidential by not lowering himself to her standards
that alone is what makes her crazy

[Cheap_Trick]

113. that's true

but I'd still love to see him give her a (figurative) bloody nose. Although just having to watch him being sworn in will be painful enough for her:)

[Catherina]

112. It's called Hillary fatigue and it's not just Obama n/t

[wileedog]

115. What are you 12?

[TLM]

118. Obama shouldn't deate her for a 22nd time. She's broke...

She only wants to debate because she's desperate for media coverage... her campaign is broke.

Debating her now would be tactically stupid.

We've had enough of bad tacticians in the white house.


By not debating her, he forces her to spend money she doesn't have, for ad buys.

And if she accuses him of being afraid of a 22nd debate... she'll come off just as desperate and childish as your OP does.


All Obama has to say to the question is "I think 21 debates are enough."


Obama can reach the voters just fine without a 22nd debate... Hillary can't.


She needs Obama to carry her.... because she's DONE.

[americanstranger]

119. Note to Clinton supporters regarding debates:

The frontrunner calls the shots on debates. Not the also-ran.

That is all.

- as

[PBS Poll-435]

120. Note to as...

Invoking Vince Foster is typical old politics.

I thought Obama was working to end that?

[americanstranger]

126. Note to prodn2000...

I'm not Obama.

The sig is there for a reason. It's the result of watching you guys (and your candidate) try to destroy the Democratic nominee for President of the United States.

Talk about 'old politics.' Your candidate is the walking definition of the Status Quo, and I'm not the least bit hesitant to point that out.

- as

[goletian]

121. no need to waste his time with hillary, shes trash. and she is a lost cause. - nt

[PBS Poll-435]

122. Yeah! New Politics RULES!!!

Use the old politics and then deny it (or say your surrogates & supporters said it...)

Don't be trashy!

[krawhitham]

135. Problem is she will attack and he is too classy to attack back

[dbmk]

137. Yep, and he knows its over soon.

He will just avoid confrontation with her until then, in order to keep his side clean and make sure as few Hillary supporters as possible are angry at him, by the time she bows out.

Its the only sensible tactic at this point. Let her implode on her own. Giving as few responses and validations of her existence as possible.

[Moochy]

138. He's Cowering In The Face of This Withering Assault of GD:P posts!! Kudos

[JeanGrey]

139. Nonsense. They've debated, what, 18 times? Is there any

more to be said? Gawd. Spare me.

[bowens43]

140. Grow up, stop acting like a 4th grader on the play grader.

There were 21 freaking debates. That was too many. Hillary has nothing to say that is worth hearing that hasn't been said a hundred times.


The primary process is over. hillary lost. It's time for her to sit down and shut the fuck up.

[Evergreen Emerald]

142. Obama really blew the last debate. The diversion worked

as no one is talking about his answers regarding capital gains and social security. They were so awful and actually scary that the Obama camp started shouting about the moderator to divert attention from the fact that he does not understand the issues.

He is afraid to debate and he should be. A debate is not a canned perrtty speech. He must show his knowledge--or lack there of--of the issues. Clinton is awesome because her intelligence, depth of knowledge of the issues comes out for all to see. We see the real Clinton--a progressive, intelligent, awesome SEnator. We also see the real Obama. An intelligent, nice guy who is not ready for the Presidency.

[shellgame26]

143. NO MORE FREE AIR TIME FOR HILLARY

Her campaign's broke. Barack doesn't need to debate her. And what should he be afraid of if he does? Her whining about getting the first questions, or his needing a pillow? Face it. HE IS WINNING. Deal with it! He doesn't need to debate her.

[JTFrog]

147. Ready on Debate 21! No wait...

on Debate 22!

Errr...

Perhaps by 2012?

[shadowknows69]

148. This is all you've got left? Pitiful.

[Pisces]

150. More like sick to death of her Rove tactics and after 21 debates not much more to say

[npincus]

152. Kindergarten antics at DU! Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah... Scaredy cat!

:rofl:

Why the hell should he? Unless it's a debate on ISSUES and not a mugging, it's completely pointless. ANd we know what HRC wants to discuss: Wright & arugala. She's frigging lucky he hasn't made a smrogasboard of SNIPER-gate. He has shown himself to have way more class and dignity that his opponent.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

153. yes indeed...especially fearful of her without a mod he can duck behind

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

155. 21 pitches, 21 strikes, she's OUT!!

[MaineDem]

156. Clinton has no $$$ to buy tv time; of course she wants free debate time

It's way much more her desperation than anything on Obama's part. She has to grasp at anything she can to pull herself out of the quicksand.

Obama should hold pat.

[americanstranger]

160. Friendly reminder to Clinton supporters regarding debates:

See post #119.

That is all.

- as