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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:08 AM
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As the World Turns - In this episode Crazy Uncle Wright returns to create war among Repubicans
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 12:35 AM by grantcart
As the World Turns; In this episode Crazy Uncle Wright returns and he crashes the Republican Party and now has them arguing against themselves, and weakening the candidacy of Senator McCain.

Stuck once again on the highway between San Diego and Yuma I reentered the strange twilight zone that brings clear reception of 158 Mariachi Band music stations and 1 national fundamentalist program and 1 right wing talk station.

(I was captivated by the evangelical station for a while because they had a former high school teacher argue that he could prove that the Ark was not only big enough for all of the animals but had a special section set aside for all of the dinosaurs. Of course this was very odd given the known chronology is off by hundreds of thousands of years but it made me wonder why they think Yahweh was such a masochist that he made Noah build such an unnecessarily large Ark only to later make the dinos obsolete. Seems kind of like slander against Yahweh to me)

Once the fundies turned their fine analytical minds to the 'science proving everyone is heterosexual' I could not bear it and turned to hear Rush.

Listened to Limbaugh in full rant. This was not some tepid "I am going to be clever" rant, this was a full throated brow sweating rant. He had his points, he was fully prepared and for the 90 minutes I listened he turned his full invective with full force against his target - Senator McCain.

The issue was McCain trying to tell the North Carolinian State Republican Party to cease and desist from using the Wright related material in their local TV advertisements.


Here are some excerpts from Limbaugh's rant - against McCain


Limbaugh
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_042508/content/01125111.guest.html
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So once again Senator McCain is totally comfortable lighting out against his own party, insulting them. "They're out of touch with reality. They are dead wrong. They're not listening to me." Hey, senator? We're all mavericks now! You demand fealty and loyalty from us and these state parties. You demand that we not use Hussein's middle name -- uh, sorry, Barack's middle name. You go along with the notion that we shouldn't call him a liberal. We shouldn't talk about Reverend Wright. But you're free to walk across the aisle and make all kinds of attacks. You're free to trash your party. You reserve the right to do whatever you want to do and say what you want to say whatever you want to say it, but you chide us for the same behavior. We're all mavericks now! We're all independents now, Senator McCain, including the North Carolina Republican Party!

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It's clear he doesn't care about the Republican Party. He doesn't care about bringing it along. He doesn't care about building it up. He intends to win despite it.

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It's apparent to him the Democrat Party is not the enemy. His own party, apparently, poses the greatest obstacle to Senator McCain.

It's obvious to me, folks, that Senator McCain has no intention of rebuilding the Republican Party as an institution.

He just wants to use is it as a means to achieve his ends and leave it in whatever state of disrepair, or repair it is when he is done -- and we know this because the purposely of McCain-Feingold was to cripple the party system; McCain's revenge when he lost the 2000 Republican primary, which he blamed on party officials and blamed on George W. Bush.

So, final question here: "If Senator McCain is to be praised as a 'maverick,' as an 'independent,' then why shouldn't the rest of us get the same praise?" I want to be very clear about this. If Senator McCain is campaigning not as a Republican or conservative, but as a "maverick" and "independent," with license to criticize his own party so as to impress Democrats and the media; then why shouldn't we behave the same way?


Why should Republicans vote for McCain, just because he's a Republican? What reason? He's a Republican, so Republicans ought to vote for him, is that how this works? Well, McCain teaches that's the wrong thing to do! You don't support Republican presidents and their policies just because they're Republicans.

No! You don't do that. So why should we support his candidacy just because he's a Republican? Why should conservatives get behind McCain, just because he claims to be conservative? McCain teaches us that that's the wrong thing to do as well. So if he's not going to be loyal to his own party and to conservative principles, why should Republicans be loyal to him? Why should conservatives be loyal to him?

We're all mavericks now. He reserves the right to dictate to all Republicans what they do say, should not say, when; but then he at the same time reserves for himself the right to abandon the Republican Party? We have to stay on the reservation; he can wander off any time he wants?

end of Limbaugh quotes
Here is a picture lampooning McCain on Limbaugh's website;


CRAZY UNCLE WRIGHT DRAGS REPUBLICANS INTO A PARTY CIVIL WAR


1) It was obvious that this was coming from Limbaugh's inner Limbaugh and that it was a theme that was going to be revisited. Limbaugh wants to damage McCain enough so that local party officials will use the Wright video (adding to the irony is that many TV stations are refusing to even run the ads) and incorporate other dirty campaign material and not listen to Sen. McCain.

2) When state party's do run the Wright material now the national media will focus not on the subject of the video - that is now boring - but on why McCain has so little persuasive power that he cannot even persuade his own state party's to listen to him. He is on record being against it and cannot reverse that position without any greater trouble.

It is in this bizarre 'Twilight Zone' world of American politics that it somehow reminded me of Dustin Hoffman playing Dorothy Michaels coming down the stairs in the unscripted scene where he reveals that he is not 'Dorothy' but Dorothy's long lost brother who has come back to wreck revenge on the hospital.




Uncle Rev. Wright's Crazy Video is now igniting a full front attack by Republican right wingers on McCain. It will box McCain in and force him to address why he can't control his own party and it will take the attention away from the video's themselves, which everyone has seen.

It is a useful reminder that it has only been less than 4 months from the Iowa Caucuses - it is still more than 7 months to the GE and all of these projections and discussions about what is going to happen in the GE are rather ambitious.

This soap opera has just started.







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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:17 AM
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1. maybe he's making a smokes screen for when McCain loses?
I can't figure out any of these crazy people.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:22 AM
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2. I think he thinks that McCain is destined to lose but that he
wants to build up the local and state parties so that they will fight hard for the local congressional races.


I was surprised that the media had not picked up this attack on McCain because it was a major move by Limbuagh, and is reflected in his home page. If it comes down to it Limbaugh will clearly throw McCain overboard to try and embolden local republicans to be more aggressive in local races.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:23 AM
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3. Whoa
It's like a parallel universe co-existing with us. AM radio is like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. People who listen to it as a steady diet have their brains turned to mush.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:27 AM
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4. lol and right now there are RW trolls reading this and reporting back to their
readers that DU has just found out about Limbaugh's spanking of McCain lol
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:32 AM
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5. Can't believe this only had one rec when I found it.
Now it has two.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:37 AM
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6. I can't believe the media hasn't picked this up
Hopefully KO will get it on Monday.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:42 AM
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8. I'm hoping Dr. Dean helps insure this becomes a loud issue, too
:nuke:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:40 AM
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7. Nice work, Grantcart!!
Kandr


:kick:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:03 AM
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9. So, they even segregated the dinosaurs...
To "a special section set aside" - figures.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:13 AM
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10. and it was a 'high school' teacher.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 01:27 AM by grantcart
His argument was that since no one knew the size of the ark and how many animals were in it that it proved the argument that it could be done and was in the bible so it was done.


Of course he would be astonished to learn that the fable of Noah is from a Mesopotamian source predating the editing of Genesis.
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:25 AM
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11. "he would be astonished to learn..."
Precisely. And so would I, if he did. The story of Noah is purloined allegory, as it were.

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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 04:49 PM
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26. or like all morality tales of the ancient world passed around and improved upon to prove
the point that was intended
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:43 AM
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12. K & R
:thumbsup:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:57 PM
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20. tks
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Alii Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:23 AM
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13. I-8, my fav hwy...have a home about 2/3 E from SD toward Yuma...
Prefer CDs...Mariachis ok for quinceañeras.

Awaiting the next episode of "As the Worm Turns." Did I get that (W)right?

Brilliant!

Mahalo...
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:40 AM
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15. must be Alpine territory thanks
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:38 AM
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14. That Is Bizarre, Even For Rush
Sheeple can't process mixed messages. I think Rush is a little too high on his own self-importance, thinking he's a kingmaker. It's all good, though. For us.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:02 PM
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16. Or it could be an intelligent move to fire up the base for congressional
candidates. If you think that your candidate is on the way to a 40 state loss then it would make sense to distance yourself from him and then try to continue to fire up the base for lower tier elections.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:38 PM
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17. regardless of what Rush says
do you really think repubs will not turnout in droves to vote against Hillary or Obama?

Rush and all the others advocated against McCain being the candidate, he won anyway.



this was posted here yesterday grant, I think with your sense of humor you will appreciate it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Mc3GQmGGms


The "fuck it, McCain" line speaks volumes.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:50 PM
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18. the key at this point is not even the election
It will be the fund raising. If McCain is in a major war with its base he won't be able to raise any money. I think that Limbaugh is laying the strategy to tell his people to give up on McCain and go for the house and senate seats instead - and given the fact that the Republicans have virtually no chance to win the Presidential campaign is not a bad strategy.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:59 PM
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21. Maybe, but I doubt they will walk away from the top ticket
I do not know their contribution habits, but if it goes to the RNC it will go to work for McCain indirectly.

If they do a gridlock block with house and senate nothing happens for either party.

We will see, when do you think national polls will become relevant? After both conventions?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:05 PM
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22. After conventions when both parties have announced the VP and
had brief little honeymoons. And of course then it will become state by state for the electoral college.
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:10 PM
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23. makes sense, Thanks n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:29 PM
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24. enjoy your Sunday Goldie
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JustAnotherGen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:53 PM
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19. That was fantastic!
Thanks for the laugh on a Sunday. Somehow in all the primary bickering and back and forth . . . it was nice to be reminded that there's Rethugs we could be going after!:toast:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 03:32 PM
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25. thanks
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:10 PM
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27. This is my report on Limbaugh's show on Friday - some may have missed this
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