Obama's VP : Jim Webb or Bill Richardson

[peoli]

And please say why if you have an opinion... or why not.

Not interested in others for this post.

[Renaissance Man]

1. Jim Webb

... with Bill Richardson as Secretary of State.

[grantcart]

3. Biden Sec of State - Richardson UN or Energy Sec

[blue sky at night]

2. really I like them both...

but I want some hispanic influence in this thing.

[MidwestTransplant]

10. I think Barack need a white guy on the ticket. This will help with the blue collar voters.

[blue sky at night]

14. you know.....

I am a dreamer, and as anti-racist as you can get...I just hate thinking about your point, but you are probably right.

[newmajority]

22. Doesn't that suck?

I usually mention Richardson for VP because of his solid resume, especially in areas like energy and diplomacy, and I never consciously think "Oh shit, the sheeple will never vote for an African-American and a Latino on the same ticket".

Would that really lose the election in the 21st century? :evilfrown:

[crankychatter]

21. if I hear "white blue collar" NEVER AGAIN

it will be too soon

Obama does FINE with white blue collar types

it's just that in PA and Ohio on the heels of BIG SMEARS and some outright VOTER DISENFRANCHISEMENT.... that Clinton did better.

lol

grrrrrrr

:)

[Alexander]

4. Richardson over Webb. Webb wrote a book called "Woman Can't Fight"...

He voted for Bush and Macaca in 2000, and was sworn in as senator barely over a year ago.

Why the hell are so many people infatuated with the idea of Webb on our ticket?

[crankychatter]

13. I think it's his outspoken criticism of the War that gets folks

and his well known military record and credibility

He's NOT DLC but the Governor of Virginia IS... will replace Webb with a DLC type in the Senate... and we need Webb right where he is.

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. GET IT FOLKS? HE VOTED FOR BUSH!

There is someone, whose decision making, got it right!

NOT!

You need to ask him where is loyalty lies.

[Stop Cornyn]

5. ABC!

[jackson_dem]

6. Webb is the only VP who gives Obama a prayer at the GE

1) he has security credentials that can't be disputed
2) he is the tribune of working class whites who Obama struggles mightily with (he gets 35% of them against McSame according to the new Newsweek poll)
3) he is from the South and can potentially swing Virginia

[MadBadger]

12. Sebelius would be a very effective candidate as well.

[jackson_dem]

30. She has no security credentials and Kansas is a lost cause for the GE and a small state to boot

VA has 13 electoral votes, tied for 12th most, and with Webb on the ticket could be in play.

[newmajority]

25. Well there you have it, folks.

Our Hillbot friend has just endorsed Webb. Richardson it is, then. :)

[On the Road]

7. As a Candidate,

one of the chief jobs of the VP is to be the hatchet man and go negative, leaving the presidential candidate above the fray.

Jim Webb is not only better equipped personalitywise, he has infinitely more credibility with conservatives of any party affiliation as Reagan's Secy of the Navy.

I like Richardson, but as a candidate, he doesn't inspire and doesn't bring the intangibles I think will be needed in what will probably be a close race.

[davidpdx]

8. I know you said you weren't interested in other

so I won't name anyone else. I'll just voice my concern about pulling too many people out of the US Senate with a slim majority. If faced with the two options, I'd go with Richardson. I like Webb he's a smart and honest guy and would make a hell of a VP. My thinking is though he should stay in the Senate. Just remember for everyone person pulled out of the US Senate, that's a seat open that we have to defend.

[crankychatter]

9. Virginia's Governor Kaine will replace Webb in Senate with a DLC type

I think the world of Jim Webb

but we need him where he is

Kaine is DLC

[Ichingcarpenter]

11. I want Howard Dean

I never get to vote for who I want in any of these polls

Your poll, neither, but Richardson over Webb. Richardson has
a lot of DLC taint, that I don't care for. Good Guy, but
not on my 'short' list. I wouldn't reject him though

Webb was a Repuglican for most of his life, I don't want
anyone that was connected to Reagan & the Repuglicans, next in line.

Also don't want anyone tied to the Military Industrial Complex that close
to the presidency, which rules out any GENERAL.

[crankychatter]

15. That'd be way cool

I bet Dean is tired of the DNC though... I would be

If I were him... I'd ask for Surgeon General

he's earned it

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. He has decided not to seek another term-updated

which ends in time to allow him to take
the nomination in August, without effecting the
election in the fall.


He's a Bulldog and can handle anything the GOP throws at him
rhetorically or ethically. Richardson and Webb can't or don't.

Dean would make a great foil to Obama that would allow
Obama to continue to take the High Road while Dean
could wrestle with the Repuglicans.

Dean can run my Party, he can run my Country.


The end of the DLC and a clean break for the New Administration.

[newmajority]

19. Obama/Dean would be one Hell of a ticket.

But I'm hoping the good doctor will finish the job he started and rebuild this party. I don't see any reason why President Obama would want to replace him.

[Ichingcarpenter]

29. His term as head of the DNP is over

I can dream

This is why Obama appeals to me, YES WE CAN!
achieve higher goals and ideals without compromising
our integrity.

[newmajority]

16. Two senators on a ticket is suicide.

Otherwise Webb might be a great candidate. Richardson has the right combination for this ticket. He's a governor from a "dark purple" (i.e. almost blue) western state, and his resume includes international diplomacy and a stint as energy secretary.

[crankychatter]

18. Oh I'm supposed to add @ Richardson

Foreign Policy gravitas.... Executive Experience... shared vision and style

Hispanic, South and West vote...

remember... the West is FULL of new swing states

AND above all... they look good together

[billyoc]

23. Too hard to find a replacement Democrat in Virginia, leave Webb there. nt

[BzaDem]

24. Not Webb... we need that senate seat.

If Webb becomes VP, his replacement appointed by the governor will have a hard time winning in the special election in 2 years. It is very hard for a Democrat to win that seat in Virginia.

[graycem]

26. Ugly as it sounds,

and sad as it is, I don't think we can win with 2 minorities on the ticket. I think he's going to have to pick a strong white guy to assuage whatever fears people in the middle might have.

[Alexander]

31. They're both half-white. Does that count as 1 white guy?

[graycem]

32. lol.. I would hope..

I love Richardson. :loveya: He's going to make an awesome Sec. of State though, he might even be more beneficial for the country in that role than V.P. considering all of the diplomacy we so desperately need right now.

[Awsi Dooger]

27. Webb, if we want any semblance of margin for error

The tactic of downplaying Florida is idiotic. Obama supporters, for all their math related posts, don't seem to have a clue in that regard. Florida is the definition of a swing state, 20% liberal and 34% conservative in the '04 exit poll. The states Obama supposedly wants to string together to replace Florida are further from our reach, like Nevada with 18% liberals and 37% conservatives, or Colorado with 35% conservatives. The self-identifying percentages are the closest link to voting tendency.

Virginia is slowly trending our way but no chance we win there minus a national avalanche, or an artificial boost like Webb for VP. It should be worth the typical 3-3.5 points. That might not be enough, given Obama's weakness with swing white voters, but it can't be understated what Virginia's 13 electoral votes would mean to the electoral landscape. It's potentially the ability to lose both Florida and Ohio and still sneak to 270.

[magatte]

28. Brian Schweitzer, Gov of Montana... all the way

I am all for Schweitzer. The guy can translate the progressive agenda into everyman words. Just look up some of his appearances on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUr48lg9Ocs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0i9o-ThOPM

He is an expert in agriculture and renewable energy. He is anti Washington, pro-gun, pro-choice, and a progressive on most issues.

They would totally side-step McCain as the Washington insider that he is.

As for speaking Arabic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edeFNFFvz_w

[woolldog]

33. Nunn or Webb must be the VP pick. nt

[newmajority]

35. Isn't Nunn older than Grandpa McLoony?

Not to mention he's just left of Fred Phelps on LGBT issues.

[woolldog]

36. he's 69.

Who cares what his ideas are on LGBT issues? Since when does the VP have anything to do with that?

[goclark]

34. Obama/Boxer

[Alii]

37. Obama/Rendell

Think about that...

[woolldog]

38. That's a good one also.

[newmajority]

41. I just did

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[PBS Poll-435]

39. Really?

Nah.. the newly elected Senator from VA should stay put. He has been a champion in his effort to end phony recess appointments.

And for Richardson, he has been a complete disappointment. No VP for YOU!

[XemaSab]

40. Tough choice

:shrug: