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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 02:56 AM
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What a hypocrite: Clinton Campaign Chair Threatened to Strip Michigan of Delegates in 2004
Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., has staked her path to the Democratic nomination on the officially illegitimate contests held in Michigan and Florida somehow being recognized, in opposition to Democratic National Committee rules.

What's so remarkable about this is that two of the Clinton campaign's most important strategists have in the past taken the stand that these states should abide by the DNC's instructions -- even if that meant stripping them of their delegates.

In direct contrast to the positions they hold now.

Senior strategist Harold Ickes as a DNC Rules Committee member in 2007 voted -- along with the other 11 Clinton supporters on the 30-member committee -- to strip Michigan and Florida of their delegates as punishment for disobeying the DNC primary calendar schedule.

Ickes now is a leader of the "count Michigan and Florida" rhetoric coming from the Clinton campaign, despite his previous position.

Now comes this curious find, on Daily Kos.

It turns out that irrepressible Clinton campaign chairman Terry McAuliffe once -- when he was DNC chairman -- threatened to strip Michigan of delegates if that state's Democrats carried out their long-time goal of disobeying the DNC calendar.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/04/clinton-campa-1.html
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krawhitham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 04:45 AM
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1. K&R
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 10:39 AM
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2. Hypocrisy is her middle name
Lying is second nature to the Clinton campaign, like breathing.
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:30 AM
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3. Glad to see this getting out.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:59 AM
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4. I think politics really does show people for who they really are
there is an old saying "when you squeeze an orange you get orange juice and when you squeeze a person, it is then that you'll see who they really are."

We go around excusing the candidates for their nastiness instead of calling them out on it.

:shrug:
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:07 PM
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5. When you squeeze a Clinton
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 12:12 PM by nebula
you get pus, like when you squeeze a zit.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:23 PM
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6. Eew, thx I was eating...
:puke:
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:29 PM
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7. I feel the same way
every time Bill or Hillary opens their mouth.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:54 PM
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10. You know what?
Sshh, come close..."me too"

But since this was no video thread I thought I was safe... until you came. ;)
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KaptBunnyPants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:36 PM
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8. That was different.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 12:37 PM by KaptBunnyPants
Counting Michigan didn't benefit him politically at the time.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:49 PM
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9. I'm betting that even Florida and Michigan voters are smart enough to see how she's just using them.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 12:49 PM by Forkboy
To her they're pawns. Her, and many of her supporters, simply didn't give a shit about their votes until they needed them.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 12:58 PM
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11. Actually, if we give Michigan and Florida 1/2 their delegates we will have remade
the entire primary season in their favor for perpetuity.

They can now be the first primaries and still have more delegate clout than all the current early states.

In fact, all the big states could move up knowing that the penalty really isn't very significant.

The party needs to not seat them at all, or there will be permanent future chaos.
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ForeignSpectator Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:01 PM
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12. Lesson of the bush years, if the law doesn't count anything...
...fuck rules, no consequences after all.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:02 PM
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13. kicking for hypocrisy
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