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Sun Apr-27-08 10:58 AM
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Obama: "I go to church not to worship the pastor, to worship God". |
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Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 11:22 AM by FLDem5
On Fox News Sunday, Chris "Obama-Watch" Wallace, brought up Rev. Wright (to no one's surprise). This came with the amusing caveat, "I wasn't even sure I would ask about Wright (I'm sure Jon and Stephen will have fun with that clip!)
Senator Obama's response, "I go to church not to worship the pastor, to worship God".
Something people of all faiths can understand. Something peole of no faith can understand. Quick sound-byte that the media can use.
I like it.
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Sun Apr-27-08 10:59 AM
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1. I never saw the show, but that is a great reply by Obama.... Hope he ... |
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keeps using that line when this shit comes up again.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:05 AM
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5. It was a very good interview |
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I almost refused to watch it because it was on Fox. And I thought for certain it would have been a cross between the last debate, and that general guy from Fox asking questions like a backwater lawyer trying to get his first 'BIG' win against a little old lady for running a light at 5mph, hitting a parked garbage truck.
Pleasant surprise, but I blacked out after the first 5min of the commentary.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:14 AM
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10. Fox brass will be STUNNED when they get the ratings #s |
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That alone is worth the temporarily allowing that cesspool to pollute my tv.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:01 AM
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:02 AM
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enough with Rev. Wright:eyes: figures Chris Wallace would jump on the chance to bring this up. This is all they've got to gripe about on FOX news. They are so worried Obama is going to get the nomination.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:03 AM
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4. he also uses his bible and god to justify inequality. how great is that? nt |
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:06 AM
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6. link to legislation or quote of this please. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:37 AM
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:11 AM
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:12 AM
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8. Absolutely beautiful and what I want to hear. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:13 AM
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:15 AM
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11. If he said that...Then he's 20 years late in finding that church that talks about God and Jesus! |
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Shall I start posting Video's of PROOF...Obama had many choices,but chhose this excuse for educating himself and HIS CHILDREN!!!!!!?
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:39 AM
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15. Yes, post links, and include lots of colorful texts to make it pretty. |
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Those of you who don't get what Wright said are either incredibly stupid, or you see it as a political tool, making you incredibly sleazy.
Pick one.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:51 AM
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24. This subthread needs more exclamation points. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 11:54 AM by Starbucks Anarchist
How else will we know spindimuse is posting?
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Sun Apr-27-08 02:02 PM
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36. there's a handy button that makes that happen. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:16 AM
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12. My understanding is that Rev. Wright's church was attended by most of |
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Chicago's Black leaders and that Obama established many of his early political connections there. His choice of a church may have more to do with the congregation than the preacher. FWIW
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:42 AM
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he consulted folks and Trinity was the church they told him to go check out.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:48 AM
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21. The narrow view of religion |
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I think that many people regard religion only as a statement of beliefs, and that attending a church or belonging to a denomination signals only adhesion to orthodoxy. It is far from the truth. Religion is much richer, sociologically and culturally speaking. Moreover, churches are communities in which disagreements occur.
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:09 PM
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27. the churches good works, their aids ministry - these drew him |
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funny how a black church did more for the aids victims than other churches.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:37 AM
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14. Of course, church attendance is not necessary to worship. |
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One can worship, or pray, anywhere. Church attendance is only necessary when one wishes to pray or worship in a public group.
Or when one feels the need of spiritual guidance. Which generally comes from the person in the pulpit.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:48 AM
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20. I think Churches are representative.. |
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of the community. It is where life and death is honored and celebrated. It is where communities gather to find solace. It is where people go to pray, and to find strength. Church is many things to many people. I do not believe that I can judge why any one person chooses to go to Church. But then again, I have a hard time judging another person's life by 'excerpts' from a Sermon as well.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:50 AM
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23. For people who attend church, |
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I believe you are correct; they do represent the community.
I've often wished for secular community gatherings that would be inclusive of the entire community, rather than dividing people up by spiritual leanings.
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:21 PM
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29. Maybe 'community' and 'spirituality' |
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Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 12:22 PM by stillcool47
are not compatible..and group spirituality by human nature turns into some brand of religiosity.
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:26 PM
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30. That seems to be the way it works, |
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except for those faiths that are not based on a "one size fits all" set of beliefs.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:40 AM
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16. No! At my church, people come to worship ME!! |
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:45 AM
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18. Obama just happened to stumble into Wright's church 20 years ago. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:49 AM
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22. You go to church to worship as a community. The community is important. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:07 PM
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25. The obvious question is: why did Obama pick that particular church? |
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:08 PM
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26. I just said: The community. |
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:30 PM
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31. It's a way to connect with the community in which he worked. |
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I worked in community services in Minneapolis inner city neighborhoods for nearly 10 years and find the whole Rev Wright thing to be completely ho hum. For the most part, the church is the center of the inner city community. It makes perfect sense that those who work together to improve the community would be members of this church.
It's also no surprise that Obama attended this church for 20 years. This is the best way to connect and be a part of the community as a community organizer and political leader. It is also no surprise that Obama crossed paths with some unsavory characters. A large part of community services is about acceptance and tolerance. If Obama had to distance himself from everyone who did something unsavory in their lives, it would be pretty hard to do his job. The nature of inner city life is a tough one and it attracts all kinds.
How Rev Wright chose to reach those he was trying to help is also no surprise. It is more important that he has found a way to reach them than it is how those on the outside view his methods. If it works, then more power to him. He sounds like a great man.
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:40 PM
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32. That sounds reasonable enough for me. If the Obama/Wright relationship |
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can be presented to the American public as such,Barack maybe able to wriggle out of this mess.
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Sun Apr-27-08 12:10 PM
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28. He was working with churches, Wright said why aren't you attending church |
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Wright reached out to him.
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Sun Apr-27-08 11:46 AM
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19. Finally..... he nailed it! |
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Sun Apr-27-08 01:49 PM
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33. I suspect God is embarrassed by ... |
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the vainglory of worship.
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Sun Apr-27-08 01:56 PM
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34. Is there anyone out there with an IQ better than "1" that wouldn't have the mental capacity |
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to figure this out on their own? I find it hard to believe that there would be folks out there needing him to "explain" something like this to them. Overstating the obvious for the deficient.......
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Mon Apr-28-08 03:08 PM
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37. We need to hear this again today after all the Pastorbaiting. |
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