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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:14 AM
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Chuck Schumer lies, Puerto Rico isn't winner take all
The myth about Puerto Rico is perpetuated by the Clinton campaign to make it seem possible for her to win the most pledged delegates. Schumer just repeated it, uncorrected, to Wolf on CNN. The fabrication began with David Brooks months ago, but is still spread by her supporters even today.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/will_puerto_rico_decide_everyt.html
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:16 AM
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1. Good to know. It's now a primary on June 3rd, right? n/t
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:25 AM
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9. Looks like June 1st
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:17 AM
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2. I don't know about that, but Claire is killing him at every turn.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:17 AM
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3. how's she killing him?
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:21 AM
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5. he's coming out tough for Clinton and she's rebutting him stronger each time
and Schumer keeps getting this pissed off look in his eye when she speaks.

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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:23 AM
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7. "pissed off look in his eye"? What a crock of crap. nt
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:24 AM
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8. I'm entitled to my opinion, you are entitled to yours
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 11:27 AM by FLDem5
they ended it quite nicely, though.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:19 AM
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4. I disagree
she's spouting platitudes again and again. Evidently Obama will keep his head down and have a conversation with the voters. I don't think she's saying anything of substance.
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dbmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:21 AM
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6. It constantly amazes me how few people that you would expect to read the rules..
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 11:22 AM by dbmk
..haven't.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:26 AM
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10. WAPO fact checker agrees with you, and says its a caucus - I didn't know that.
The Facts
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/will_puerto_rico_decide_everyt.html

Both Brooks and Barone are wrong. Puerto Ricans will vote according to much the same proportional representation rules that govern Democratic party primaries and caucuses in the 50 states. The notion of Puerto Rico being a "winner-take-all" jurisdiction stems from previous presidential primary contests, which were pretty much over by the time the Puerto Ricans got to vote. John Kerry swept Puerto Rico in 2004 just as Al Gore triumphed in 2000 because they were the only candidates left in the race, and the party bosses could manipulate the caucus process.

This time will be very different, according to several Puerto Rican Democratic leaders I contacted earlier today by phone. At present, Puerto Rico is scheduled to hold a caucus--not a primary--on June 7. If the race is still competitive, participation is likely to be very high, and there is no way that one candidate will sweep all the delegates.

"Both the candidates have supporters on the island," said Eliseo Roques, vice-chair of the Democratic National Committee's Hispanic Caucus, and a prominent Puerto Rican politician who is neutral in the race. "You will see a closely contested race."

The chairman of the Puerto Rican Democratic Party, Roberto Prats, told me that any registered Puerto Rican voter over the age of 18 who self-identifies with the Democratic party (i.e. does not take part in a Republican election) will be eligible to caucus. Like Roques, he expects excitement to be at fever pitch if the race is still going on, and hundreds of thousands of voters to turn out. Traditionally, he says, Puerto Rico has chosen to hold caucuses because they are "less expensive" than a primary, but the island may switch to a primary this time round, if the race is still competitive.

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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 11:28 AM
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11. I think they recently changed to a Primary.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 11:31 AM by MaineDem
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