Was it fair for Hillary to invoke ayers against Obama?

[youknowmenotdlc]

Especially in light of how Bill pardoned two of Ayers buddies who were convicted and serving time AND the clemency for the FALN terrorists AND hillary's own history of doing legal work for the panthers?


Isn't this a very clear cut example of hypocrisy?

Also, doesn't it also show how Obama has refused to wallow in the gutter in this campaign? He could have easily brought this up time and again to paint her as a radical.

He hasn't.

[yourguide]

1. That camp considers politics a blood sport.

In their mind, fair game, although bullshit.

[goldcanyonaz]

5. Love that photo of Clinton. Shows her campaigning hard in NH! beautiful woman!

[yourguide]

8. Good...

Seriously, I am glad you like it.

[goldcanyonaz]

14. Of course that was not why you posted it. You wanted her to look haggard.

And, old.

[yourguide]

16. Nope...shows her true inner beauty as well.

[BklynChick]

2. it's red baiting pure and simple. she should be ashamed not only because of Bill because democrats

shoudln't red bait other democrats and she has her own history with radicals herself; he actually doesn't have this history, only a recent association with is so minimal it's absurd.

[Dogmudgeon]

4. Can we quote you on that?

--p!

[Adelante]

6. I second BklynChick nt

[Yossariant]

3. Barack only whines that Bill Clinton is not running --- when it suits his agenda.

:wtf:

[Tribetime]

7. no

[Adelante]

11. There is no excuse for McCarthyite tactics

None.

[Tribetime]

13. you are correct wesdem thanks

[thunder rising]

9. Of course it was fair to out Ayers ... and Obama is kicking Billary ass and that's fair too.

[cbayer]

10. It's all politics and they are all hypocrites.

It's all strategic and both of them are playing very, very hard.

[Forkboy]

12. Pretty much sums it up.

Could end this thread right there. :)

[youknowmenotdlc]

15. Not really

Obama has not brought up all those things I mentioned.

Yet Hillary has.

Saying they are both doing it misses the point.

[cbayer]

17. Missing that they are both doing it is missing the point. nt.

[NJmaverick]

18. "Isn't this a very clear cut example of hypocrisy?" Isn't that Hillary's campaign theme?

Seems to me Obama runs on hope and change and Hillary on repuke style hypocrisy.

[lisa58]

19. She's not thinking about fair....

...she doesn't care how she gets there, she just wants to get there.

[Liberal Veteran]

20. And sadly, there are many "liberals" who are buying into HRCs "end justifies the means" strategy.

I thought we were better than that.

[lisa58]

28. me too...

...this is eye-opening and stomach-turning.

[gateley]

21. Is there ANYTHING fair about political campaigning these days?

And did Hillary bring it up BEFORE Scarborough/Stephanopoulos?

[dbonds]

22. Watch the movie Primary Colors

Its a slightly fictionalized story of Clinton's first Presidential campaign. It helps one understand their philosophy.

[JustAnotherGen]

23. no subject

Oh well - she'll get hers in the General Election.

[Hansel]

24. It's bogus and she knows it. Says more about her than him.

Serving on a board with someone does not make you a friend or even an acquaintance. I've been on several boards, including one in the inner city. From my experience, most board members do not really know each other. They are appointed for specific attributes they can bring to the board and don't usually have a lot in common. Boards I was on met once a month and occasionally attended fund-raisers. And that was pretty much the limit of the interaction.

The board he was on with Ayers only met once a quarter from what I hear. So they sat in a room for probably 4-8 hours out of a year and likely didn't even speak to each other. People join non-profit boards for one of 2 reasons: 1) They need to list community work on their resume, or 2) they are activists and think the organization has something to offer to their particular cause. They don't join to be a part of a community of board members. There is a whole Robert's Rule of Order process that dictates a formality that really isn't conducive to socializing. Typically the officers do the talking in meeting and the discussion is usually limited to organizational business. They don't come early and they don't stay late to socialize because they lead busy lives.

And the accusation that Ayers held a fund-raiser for Obama ranks right up there with: "I was shocked to find out that there was gambling in Vegas." Obama is a politician. Community leaders hold fund-raisers for them. Shocking.

Hillary has enough experience with this kind of stuff for her argument to be viewed as disingenuous. It's one of the reasons I dislike her and do not want her to be the president. If this is all she has, Obama must relatively clean as politicians go.

[2rth2pwr]

25. It's not fair!. Mommy, make it stop.

waaaaaaah

[roseBudd]

26. No it was hypocrisy, and considering the likelyhood he will be our nominee, irresponsible

[TahitiNut]

27. The Woods Fund of Chicago - obviously a viper's nest of pinko commie bastards

:eyes:

Woods Fund of Chicago "is a grantmaking foundation whose goal is to increase opportunities for less advantaged people and communities in the metropolitan area, including the opportunity to shape decisions affecting them. The foundation works primarily as a funding partner with nonprofit organizations. Woods supports nonprofits in their important roles of engaging people in civic life, addressing the causes of poverty and other challenges facing the region, promoting more effective public policies, reducing racism and other barriers to equal opportunity, and building a sense of community and common ground."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Woods_Fund_of_Chicago

Hillary's campaign is aligning itself with the fascist right ... employing age-old "red scare" (McCarthy) tactics.