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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:32 PM
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Regarding: Clinton Attacks Base Of Democratic Party
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The "activist" base she so disdains today is the same group which she sought support from early in her presidential bid and is the same group that was founded originally to save President Bill Clinton from impeachment all those years ago. My but how times have changed for the Clintons.

Moveon's Executive Director Eli Pariser responded on LATIMES.com to the candidate's remarks: "Senator Clinton has her facts wrong again. Moveon never opposed the war in Afghanistan, and we set the record straight years ago when Karl Rove made the same claims." Karl Rove?

The Clinton campaign charges that there were well-documented instances of intimidation of her supporters in caucuses in Nevada and Texas by Moveon supporters of Obama is yet another fabrication created by the Clintons. The reality is that the Nevada caucuses took place prior to Moveon's endorsement, and Texas had not even caucused when Clinton made her outrageous allegations.

Senator Clinton had eagerly jumped on Senator Obama with criticism when his comments dominated the media, because as she said his electability should be questioned, as he had offended key Democratic constituencies. Maybe she should apply the same litmus test to her own words.

According to the LATIMES.com article, Pariser went on to defend the party base by concluding that "Senator Clinton's attack on our members is divisive at a time when Democrats will soon need to unify to beat McCain. Moveon is 3.2 million reliable voters and volunteers who are an important part of any winning Democratic coalition in November. They deserve better than to be dismissed using Republican talking points."

Clinton's comments deviate from what a Democratic presidential candidate would be expected to express out loud. Party activists are always the element which can be most heavily relied upon to get out the vote for the nominee of the party.

Earlier in the primary race Senator Clinton had done nothing but gush about how wonderful it was that the Democratic turnout in both primaries and caucuses demonstrated how these excited participants and grassroots voter groups made her proud of her party and our country's democratic process.

Grassroots activists have been responsible for the high voter registration and get out the vote efforts in the primary contests across the country. But because most of the caucus outcomes haven't gone her way, Clinton now chooses to disparage them and her campaign has even gone so far as to call them "undemocratic."


Maybe how you grow up early on sticks with you all your life, no matter how much you claim to have changed.

Hillary Clinton grew up in a conservative Republican household. She began her political life as a teenager canvassing for Richard Nixon (not John F. Kennedy) during the 1960 presidential election, and then worked as a "Goldwater Girl" and youthful supporter of 1964 Republican Party presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. And even as an undergraduate at Wellesley College, Clinton actually served as president of the campus Republican group.

It is just possible that Hillary Clinton's comments about her current party's base, merely reflects a bit of party-identity confusion on her part.

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Link: http://www.desertdispatch.com/opinion/clinton_3189___article.html/party_democratic.html

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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:36 PM
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1. Seems like all of the people
That disagree with her get attacked, like in Bill Richardson's case! Seems like it has come down to the old "you are either with us, or you are the enemy" thinking. If she does not come to her senses pretty soon, they damage she is doing to herself, and to the party is going to take a huge toll both!
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:39 PM
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2. I have been saying this for some time on DU about Clinton....
"It is just possible that Hillary Clinton's comments about her current party's base, merely reflects a bit of party-identity confusion on her part."

I don't really think she is a Democrat at all, and seriously question whether she ever has been.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:41 PM
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3. Maybe she needs a party change?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:43 PM
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4. more faux outrage
most be a slow day...
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:44 PM
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5. She's all about Power, not Party.
Like Dick Cheney, she wants a tight grip on the levers of power.

That's who Hillary Clinton is most like - the politics are different, but the thirst is the same.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 01:48 PM
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6. Yep... And, Has She Ever Said What Presidential Powers She Would Give Back ???
You know... the ones GW took for himself???

I'd love to see her get and answer THAT question in front of a camera.

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 04:47 PM
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7. Kick !!!
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