Oh, Yes Indeed, Hillary's Campaign has been Exposed for it's Racism and Hypocrisy

[berni_mccoy]

I still find it amazing that many of the Hillary supporters here who cry sexism or who would never tolerate racism from the right-wing nutcases are so completely blind to Hillary's campaign's own hypocrisy and racism. The best example of this denial can be read in a journal posting here:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/McCamy%20Taylor/203

The posting goes about trying to defuse the entire fact that Clinton's campaign has been nothing at all about racism and how she has been unfairly treated and labeled for such attacks. I believe this video from The Daily Show best exposed her blatant hypocrisy and playing of the race-card: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=166850&title=indecision-2008-clintons

Some excerpts starting about 2 minutes into the video:

Hillary Clinton: "Ultimately it's the voters who get to decide" ... "I trust the voters"
Stewart: "But she would soon find that trust violated... as a few early caucus states went for Senator Obama. But don't panic!...Are caucuses really voting?"

Clinton: "You know my sense of caucus states... they are primarily dominated by activists... they don't represent the electorate."

Stewart: "I mean activists? Those are merely the people who care the most... You know... grass roots organizers Bup Boop" <indicating grass-roots organizers are crazy in a sarcastic way>
"It would be different if Obama won a couple of actual primary states...I'm sorry, what's that?...Oh he...WELL...Are South Carolina and Louisiana really primaries?

Bill Clinton: "Jesse Jackson won South Carolina twice in 84 and 88..."
Hillary: "In the case of Louisiana, a very strong and very proud African American electorate which I totally respect and understand"

Stewart: <echoing Clinton's sentiments>"I mean look, if we're gonna start counting Black Folks, I mean, ... COME ON!...I mean Activists, Black People...<shakes head in sarcastic dismissiveness>"
"And sure, Senator Obama won Iowa, Wisconsin, Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina, Vermont, Washington, and Virginia, but are those even really states?"

Hillary: "I have won the big states, the states a Democrat has to win"

Stewart: "We choose this by state size right?"
"But as voters continue to get it wrong, is there no one who can rescue us from ourselves?"
"Look, up in the air! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's SUPER DELEGATES!"
"And they matter."

Hillary: "We do a great disservice to those who have a record of service, who have independent experience of candidates."
"These people have the kinds of experience that voters don't have"
"They <voters> see us from affar, they see us on television, and they vote and that is ...part of the process and an important part"

Stewart: <echoing her sentiment> "Fuck the lever pullers."
"So just to be clear voters, at the beginning of the race, you've gone from this:"

Hillary: "Voters get to decide"

Stewart: "To THIS:"

Hillary: "they vote and that is ...part of the process and an important part"

Stewart: "You're an important part of this complete democratic process... You're like the pile of toast next to the orange juice in the Fruity Pebbles commercial"
"But as the hope that Super Delegates could correct this error wanes, the real issue becomes to come into focus: The Democratic nominating process, should have been conducted hypothetically:"

Hillary: "If you actually count the votes that have been cast, more people have actually voted for me."
Governor Rendell: "If you count Florida and Michigan and it proves Hillary Clinton would have won."
Senator Bayh: "If you look at the aggregate popular vote"
Bill Clinton: "If you look at the Republican System..."
Hillary: "If we had the same system as the Republicans, I'd already be the nominee."

Stewart: "So what you are saying comes down to is...that you would win the nomination if Democrats were Republicans."
"That sounds like One TREMENDOUS...F-U to the PROCESS."

But let's not confuse the two topics. Hypocrisy and racism are two completely different things. But then again, this editorial puts it all together so well:
http://blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=4470

Hillary Clinton’s Disgraceful Campaign: Racism and Hypocrisy
By Geoffrey Dunn
April 23rd, 2008

In the aftermath of the Pennsylvania Democratic primary — a race in which Senator Hillary Clinton had a 20-point lead only a few months ago — the racism and hypocrisy of the Clinton campaign was laid bare for all a nation to scorn.

Desperate and willing to do anything to win, the Clintons resorted to a naked form of racism aimed directly at white working-class voters in the rural portions of the state. Their message: Barack Obama cannot win because he’s black.

In the early stages of the campaign, it was Clinton’s cadre who kept playing the race card. In New Hampshire, Clinton’s co-chair, Billy Shaheen, accused Obama of being a drug dealer; then there was the photograph of Sen. Barack Obama in Somalian garb leaked to the press by Clinton’s staff.

In the aftermath of the South Carolina primary, former President Bill Clinton compared Obama’s victory to those of Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988. His message was clear: Obama was a marginal, black candidate.

Then came the disgraceful remarks of Geraldine Ferraro, who could not, and would not, shut her mouth. “If Obama was a white man,” she charged, “he would not be in this position." And she was adamant and unapologetic amid the resulting outcry. "Every time that campaign is upset about something, they call it racist,” she proclaimed. “I will not be discriminated against because I'm white."
Say what?

The Clintons refused to publicly call for Ferraro’s resignation. Ferraro remained unrepentant when she finally did resign. “The Obama campaign is attacking me to hurt you,” she bitterly wrote Hillary. And she never apologized for her remarks.

To anyone who has followed the Clinton campaign closely, it is all too apparent that her top political strategists — reeling from losses from coast to coast and badly miscalculating the grassroots power of the Obama movement — made a tactical decision to go negative, as that would be the only way for Clinton to stop Obama and somehow allow her to steal the nomination.

And go negative they did — with a subtle yet consistent racism underscoring every turn. The now notorious red-phone-at-3:00-a.m. television ad used by Clinton during the Texas primary, as Harvard sociologist Orlando Patterson noted in the New York Times, was reminiscent of D. W. Griffith’s racist film Birth of a Nation, which helped revive the Ku Klux Klan.

In Pennsylvania, Gov. Ed Rendell, who headed up Clinton’s campaign, was publicly saying that white voters in the Keystone State would not vote for Obama because he was black. Rendell’s remarks were racist from the get-go, but no one in the white media called him on it. Indeed, the media began playing the game.

Much, much more damning evidence of racism and hypocrisy from the Clinton campaign at the link.

DUers of all kinds, Obama supporters, Clinton supporters and neutral parties, need to stop defending Clinton on this point and recognize her campaign for what it has done. She needs to be held accountable for her hypocritical and racist campaign that has sought to divide the party, it's voters and it's leaders and representatives. To Clinton supporters who would continue to blindly support her racism and hypocrisy: you do so at the peril of the very party itself.

[IndianaJones]

1. is this the opinion of Homophobama or just his disciples? nt.

[berni_mccoy]

3. Thank you for pointing out how utterly and ridiculously blind Hillary's DU supporters really are.

[Name removed]

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[Oleladylib]

16. Stupidity plays into it as well as homophobama.

[cali]

33. you are one person I don't think really gives a flying fuck about McClurkin

your opinion is as worthwhile as a pile of dog shit.

[Forkboy]

53. We can always count on your for the simpleton's take.

[L0oniX]

65. My ignore list has reached its limit thanks to you.

:evilfrown:

[goldcanyonaz]

2. OMG@@ THAT BITCH!!!

[berni_mccoy]

4. Why do Clinton supporters like to use that word so much?

[cliffordu]

5. I was wondering that my own self....Odd, that.

[berni_mccoy]

9. Actually, I was being sarcastic. They use it frequently as a false-flag attack.

This particular poster was being sneaky trying to get Obama supporters to chime in. Very foolish of him/her. It only makes Clinton supporters look very, very desperate.

[tigereye]

74. hmm, I think it's been rsed depending on the context

if it's pretty strongly calling HRC one (as well as other epithets), and it's not meant as a good thing, I think it's been yanked...


I don't remember the exact discussion about it, though...




(I have that SNL/ Hillary t-shirt that says "bitches get things done", however) :hide:

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

6. I won't vote for Clinton because she's a woman or white and I

won't vote for Obama because he's black or male.that doesn't enter into it, has nothing to do with it.

[movonne]

17. That's a good thing...

[2rth2pwr]

7. You back up your opinion with 2 opinion pieces. So what?

[berni_mccoy]

8. Stewart is hardly Opinion. He's more Socratic Method, using Hillary's own words.

And btw, Pot. Meet. Kettle. Don't be a hypocrite, cheering on Hillary opinion threads supported only by other Hillary-blind opinions then.

[2rth2pwr]

20. Where have I done that?

[qijackie]

10. You have Beans In Your Nose!

Such silliness.

[NanceGreggs]

11. Way to go ...

... Berni McCoy!

REC'D!

[berni_mccoy]

12. Thanks Nance!

:hug: :loveya:

[FrenchieCat]

13. The media is now promoting bigotry.

There was a time in our history, when the media was seen to be on the right side of history regarding the race issue. They often time reported on the ugly occurrences of racism as it existed in our society. As we made progress as a nation, it was mainly Whites citizens who proclaimed that racism was an issue of the past as they fought against Affirmative Action. Meanwhile, minorities were challenged to provide examples illustrating how far our nation still had to go to get to the mountain top.

We are now seeing a reversal of the media’s role as we enter an era where a qualified African-American is likely to be on the ticket vying for the top position in our government. But in an unfortunate turn of events, the media is now promoting the issue of racial division. It now appears that being prejudiced against those born of a different hue, is once again acceptable.

My question is how can we on the one hand proclaim America to be a good and a God fearing nation, yet on the other encourage and even promote the idea that an individual cannot become President simply because he is ½ Black? I believe that both the primary and the general election tactics used will tell us more about who we are, and what we truly represent. The world is watching, and thus far, our United States is threading on shaky grounds. The values our soldiers have fought for in every war, the notion of liberty and equality are now coming under question. When one thinks of all of the progress that we were supposed to have made, the question is now, are we willing to take 20 steps back to score political points? Is this what we want for ourselves in the 21st century? To have the world conclude that we, living in the United States of America, are nothing but a people perpetuating a fraud. I can only pray not.

[movonne]

15. I have decided that maybe many of hillary's supporters are racist.. there

are dems that are very racist...In my own family there are some of these..and it is very sad...I would have hoped this country would have grown up some...the repugs use this all the time..

[speedoo]

18. K&R, and bookmarked.

Thanks for posting.

[berni_mccoy]

19. Thanks speedo!

:toast:

[4themind]

21. You are the real McCoy

Thanks for the post, btw, do you know how many delegates hillary would have if they used "the republican method"

[berni_mccoy]

24. I do not know how many she would have. But if the Democratic system were winner-take-all

I'm sure Obama's campaign would have run a completely different campaign strategy. Clinton *did* run a campaign on a winner-take-all strategy and that is why she is losing. Obama's strategy was based on the rules, which is why he is winning.

[keep_it_real]

22. Bill Clinton Implied Hillary Clinton Is Stronger Than Nelson Mandela.

"I have been blessed in my life to know some of the greatest figures of the last hundred years. <...> I go to Nelson Mandela's birthday party every year and we're still very close. <...>

But if you said to me, 'You've got one last job for your country but it's hazardous and you may not get out with life and limb intact and you have to do it alone except I'll let you take one other person, and I had to pick one person whom I knew who would never blink, who would never turn back, who would make great decisions <...> I would
pick Hillary.'"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12/obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html#postComment

[berni_mccoy]

27. Even though it's delusional of him to think and say so, I won't fault him for that.

He's entitled to see his wife that way.

[Maribelle]

23. Is this today's instructions from Obama's campaign - - play the race card over and over again?

It is getting downright pathetic, this.

[berni_mccoy]

26. Please, end the racist attacks now.

[Maribelle]

28. Each and ever time the Clintons mention anything about race you are screaming racist.

[SeaLyons]

63. It's a pattern....

every time Hillary gets momentum, allegations of racism come to the front.

[ekwhite]

25. K&R

[lefty2000]

29. Your Evidence is Weak

Stewart's skit does not work unless you already believe what he is trying to tell you. It is a mish-mash of quotes taken out of context and deliberately mis-represented or distorted. He does that all the time. I thought it was funny when he did it to Bush and Cheney. Not now.

Geoffrey Dunn is engaging in pure bullshit, just like you are.

You cannot prove racism by allusion and innuendo. You need real facts and real evidence. There is plenty of evidence that Hillary Clinton will do what is necessary to win and I applaud her for it. There is no evidence that she has any agenda to disenfranchise black people, deprive them of health care, deny them employment, or property. Quite the opposite is the case.

The only thing she is trying to do to blacks is deprive them of the candidate of their choice, who appears to be Barack Obama and not Hillary Clinton. That is not racism, it is politics. To try to paint it as racism is simply wrong. I would call it demaguoguery, except you may be sincere in your belief and if you are, then it would be unfair of me to do so.

I will assume you are sincere, but mistaken.

[EFerrari]

31. Not mistaken in any way.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_ze_080426_the_clintons_campaig.htm

[berni_mccoy]

32. Thank you. Most Americans are seeing this as well. Only the blind do not.

[EFerrari]

48. It's possible they thought they could go right under the radar.

I'm very pleased to see that didn't happen, and to see so many people confronting this cr@P for exactly what it is.

[D23MIURG23]

44. But wait... wasn't this all Obama's fault for being black?

I think it was him playing the race card against the Clintons!!!!

:sarcasm:

[EFerrari]

49. The (feminist) chair of the Independent Women's Caucus said

Hillary didn't notice Obama was black -- until he starting winning. :)

[AquarianRealm62]

30. This is great! thanks for posting

[berni_mccoy]

34. You are welcome. And welcome to DU.

[frickaline]

35. she's walking a fine line, but ...

While there is some evidence here, I do find it curious that Bill Clinton had as large a following in the African-American community during and after his tenure. If they are as racist as you are implying, why did this support exist? Why did it not erode until recently? Surely if they were such overwhelmingly racist people there would have been evidence prior to now.

I think your evidence is pretty weak, although still has some merit. She's walking a fine line, and not particularly gracefully.

[berni_mccoy]

36. Here: I've posted enough evidence before (LINK)

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/berni_mccoy/251

Their entire campaign was constructed about emphasizing racial divides.

[frickaline]

38. but... you failed to address my question

and that link didn't contain any new information beyond what you posted above.

[berni_mccoy]

40. You can bring a horse to water...

[frickaline]

58. and again you arent answering the question - you are in denial my friend.

Is your argument is so weak that it cannot bear this discussion?

[D23MIURG23]

46. Its because they aren't actually racists themselves.

The OP doesn't allege any bigotry on the part of the Clintons. It alleges that they found it expedient to exploit the bigotries and prejudices of others for personal gain.

They probably felt they could get away with this sort of politicking without the repercussions they have faced.

Check out this column mentioned in post 31 for more instances:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_david_ze_080426_the_clintons_campaig.htm

I'll leave you with a personal favorite of mine:

"Latinos won't vote for a black man". -HRC

[hfojvt]

51. that David Zephyr column sucks

Going back to Sista Souljah which nobody remembers any more (at least I don't), and Jocelyn Elders, and the death penalty case. Poor old Ricky Rector a "mentally impaired men" (sic) and sick to sweep over the fact that Rector was a murder who then shot the officer who came to arrest him and became mentally impaired because he shot himself in the head and paramedics were able to save his worthless life. But let's just pretend that Rector was mentally impaired when he committed his crimes. He makes for a more sympathetic character that way.

He also inflates the Shaheen comment.

"New Hampshire followed with the Clinton's state chair, Bill Shaheen, who resigned only after he wickedly suggested that Barack was not only a drug user, but perhaps a drug dealer. A black drug dealer.

On to Nevada where the Clintons got caught working this line: "Latinos won't vote for a black man". When asked about it, Hillary replied, "It's a fact.""

In fact, Shaheen was talking about electability and saying that Republicans might use that in the fall. And the quote about Latinos was from Sergio Bendixen and it is true that Hillary has consistently won the Latino vote.

[redqueen]

60. Um... I'd think most politically aware folks remember Sister Souljah.

Are you saying that you think Rector wasn't mentally impaired?

What's your evidence for saying so?

Or is it just a smear in an attempt to exculpate Bill for the crime of allowing a mentally-impaired man to be executed?

[hfojvt]

75. I must not be that politically aware then

Of course, I didn't have a TV in the 1990s either.

Rector was mentally impaired when he was executed. That is established. But was he mentally impaired when he murdered poor Arthur Criswell and Robert Martin and shot two others in 1981? No, he only became mentally impaired because he shot himself in the head trying to commit suicide rather than face life in prison.

http://www.commondreams.org/views02/1112-04.htm

So a double murderer, liar, and coward is not somebody a majority of people will feel sorry for even if he became mentally impaired by his own actions. Just calling him mentally impaired makes it sound like he was born that way or became that way by accident or disease.

[hfojvt]

37. that linked article seems to get everything wrong

Did Shaheen accuse Obama of being a drug dealer? Or did he speculate that Republicans might make that claim if Obama was the nominee?

Was it ever proven that Hillary's camp leaked that photo to Drudge?

Isn't it also possible that Bill's remark about South Carolina was not that big a deal? Does it have to be sinister to point out that just because a candidate who is black wins the South Carolina primary is not necessarily gonna win the nomination. I was there in 1984 and 1988 and I hardly think of Jesse Jackson as a marginal candidate. But he was a candidate who did not win the nomination.

I also did not think Ferraro's remarks were that disgraceful. My POV is that the over-the-top attacks on Ferraro were/are at least as disgraceful as her remarks. Obama is a great candidate and a great fundraiser and a great campaigner, but he would not be the same media sensation if he was not black, nor would he get the endorsement of Oprah which created another media sensation, nor would he get 90% of the black vote against a Clinton, etc.

Harvard Sociologist Patterson's column was ridiculous and clearly demonstrated to be so by Somerby at the Daily Howler. I also don't see how Rendell's remarks are racist since all he was saying was that many white Pennsylvanians are racists. Okay that's racism against white people, but it's not anti-black.

I think Clinton's campaign has been divisive, but only because they play dirty, not because they are trying to encourage or justify racism.

[berni_mccoy]

39. Nope, it's still completely accurate.

Shaheen resigned from her campaign admitting his racial comment was a mistake.

Clinton's campaign would not deny they leaked it to Drudge. Reported here they did: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/25/wsmear125.xml

No, Bill knew exactly what he was doing.

Why did it take Clinton over 10 days to respond to Ferraro? Because she needed her to be making them.

You are simply denying the reality that the Clinton campaign has engaged in racially divisive tactics.

[hfojvt]

41. Shaheen resigned and admitted it was a mistake

but it's not completely accurate according to my google search

" Shaheen said he worried that Republicans would have a field day picking apart Obama's past, notably his admissions of cocaine and marijuana use in his late teens. "The Republicans are not going to give up without a fight...and one of the things they're certainly going to jump on is his drug use," Shaheen said."

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/13/clinton_apologizes_to_obama_fo_1.html

Compare that to what your article said, upon edit.

edit: survey says:

"In the early stages of the campaign, it was Clinton’s cadre who kept playing the race card. In New Hampshire, Clinton’s co-chair, Billy Shaheen, accused Obama of being a drug dealer;"

Hmm, those two don't look the same to me. SOMEBODY is gilding the lilly.

[berni_mccoy]

45. Your blog vs. my blog. You're entitled to your opinion. It doesn't change the fact that Shaheen

resigned or made racist remarks. I notice that's all you have left. You've realized the reality of her campaigns pattern of racial divisiveness.

[hfojvt]

50. my blog is a new report written shortly after the incident

Not an opinion column written months later, and it actually quotes Shaheen. Plus, I just took the first link I found rather than posting a bunch of them.

As for responding to the rest of it, Shaheen was the only factual error. Whether Bill Clinton knew what he was doing or not is kinda unproveable, unless he admits it. It's not factual to make such a claim though, but it may be naive to not see it. So you could be right, and I could be naive, or I could be right and you could be partisan or paranoid. I don't care for it myself when people construe things about things I said, and they think they KNOW what I meant.

As for why Hillary took so long to respond to Ferraro, again that could have several interpretations. I, myself, did not think there was anything terribly wrong with what Ferraro said. Secondly, I, myself, would stand by my friends when they come under attack, not pile on them or abandon them.

[ashrob123]

69. This is what bugs me about the issue of racism in this country

Unless Bill and Hillary say "I hate ni99ers and you do too so vote for me" no one is willing to recognize what she is doing how she and her campaign are attempting to manipulate racial bigotry to their advantage

To me it is glaringly apparent that although the Clinton's are not overtly racist they have no problem at all using the issue of racism to further her bid for the Democratic nomination. They have no problem offending Black people now because come the GE black people will have (in their opinion) forgotten about it and are willing to forgive.

This is exactly the reason that a lot of people believe that the Democratic party has always taken advantage of the Black vote and forever will. They will until it doesn't pay for them to do so.

I do not advocate sitting out of the election if Clinton steals the nomination but I would surely understand if people did. What does that tell you? People are willing to risk the placing of 2 conservative judges on the SC, 100 more years of war, $5+ per gallon gas prices and growing unemployment to teach the Democratic party that we will no longer be taken advantage of. To teach the Democratic party that we will not be shit upon for the greater good.

At this point Clinton is unelectable. Her negatives are as high as the worst president in the history of the US, she can't fund raise for her campaign, she can't keep her staff/volunteers from offending great swipes of people with their anti-Muslim/racist remarks. She can't carry the base of the Democratic party how in the world would she be expected to win over Repugs or Independents?

[hfojvt]

71. you should not feel so all alone

It has always been the Clinton/DLC way to tack to the right, because the base is taken for granted. So you ignore them, or even anger them by moving to the right, by being a fiscal conservatives, by enacting welfare reform, and telecom deregulation, and NAFTA. They figure that they may lose some of the extreme left, but that they take moderates away from the Republicans and still win.

And it's not like Clinton did nothing for black people. According to Begala "Consider this: from 1981 to 1992, the poorest 40 percent of African-American families saw their incomes fall by an average of 10 percent; during the Clinton administration, those same African-American families saw their incomes rise by an amazing 51 percent."

"Clinton brought the same zeal he showed in promoting American goods and services overseas to his quest to revitalize the inner cities. He created Empowerment Zones to spur local community planning and economic growth in distressed communities through tax incentives and federal investment."

Nelson Mandela came to Clinton's defense during the Lewinsky affair. He said "You stand up for your friends, and President Clinton has been a friend to Africa."

Almost all members of the CBC are Democrats. Of course, some of that is due to black voters, but not all of it. Illinois is about 75% white and still sent Carol Mosely-Braun and Barack Obama to the Senate. Massachusetts is about 85% white and has a black governor. I'm sure there are other examples. Presumably too, blacks are also voting Democrat because they prefer Democratic policies over Republican ones - prefer social programs over tax cuts for the rich, prefer civil rights over tough on crime, prefer spending on education over spending on prisons, prefer help one another over trickle down, etc. That's why this white boy was drawn to the Democratic party by the speeches of Jesse Jackson.

[ashrob123]

78. You're speaking as if this is a Clinton thing

It's not. It's a Democratic party thing. This has been a running sentiment within the African American community for at least 60 years or so. As a group, we are the most loyal and as a group we have been the most fucked. This is why a candidate like Clinton feels as if she can go DAYS without calling Ferraro to task and feels that she can win the GE. This is why her husband compares Obama to Jesse Jackson instead of hm, I don't know Edwards the last person to win SC and not get the presidency. She doesn't think it will be a problem. This woman is a genius. She sees history and knows the score. I'm personally sick of the whole thing and can't wait for this to be over once and for all so that I'm not bitter and resentful if she does manage to pull a democratic nomination out of her ass.

[suzie]

80. The same Bill Clinton who explained what 'is' is

and his comment about linking Barack Obama and Jesse Jackson was "not that big a deal". Bill Clinton has been a politician most of his adult life. He lived and governed in the South. And he didn't know what that comment would sound like? Somehow I don't find that credible.

[mmonk]

42. They don't care.

[ccharles000]

43. Hillary is a loving person.

She loves all americans whether black or white.

[berni_mccoy]

54. If she was, she would not condone such behavior for her campaign. She did not need

to run this kind of campaign. And yet, she did. It does not reflect a loving person.

Obama has held back attacking Clinton on many issues that he could and probably get away with. But he has chosen not to, one because she is a fellow Democrat that he respects (or at least respected at one point in time) and two, because he is a loving person who loves all Amercans regardless of race or creed.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

57. Unless they're from Iran.

[burythehatchet]

59. DUzy fer shur!

[berni_mccoy]

61. LOL!

[L0oniX]

67. You forgot the :sarcasm:

:sarcasm:

[jgraz]

81. Especially deep-fried with ranch dressing.

[D23MIURG23]

47. K&R

[quantass]

52. Great Post!

[UALRBSofL]

55. In my opinion I wouldn't worry about many of the Hillary supporters

After all, they are "just white people" who cling to guns and religion who have antipothy towards people not like them.

[berni_mccoy]

56. No worries here. They can cling to whatever makes them feel good.

[TheWarIzaLie]

72. "just white people" huh???

Why do you feel it necessary to make up your own version of what Obama said then put said jibberish in quotes? Moron

[DevonRex]

62. K&R nt

[Swamp Rat]

64. So have some of her supporters.

[Beacool]

66. Oh yeah, that's the ticket!!!!

Everyone who doesn't support the great Obama HAS to be a racist. Why else not support a guy with a wafer thin resume?

Please.........

[berni_mccoy]

68. Ugly. You are reaching really far for that.

Why don't you reach around and pull your head out.

[Wind Dancer]

70. Excellent post. K & R n/t

[Major Hogwash]

73. Her entire campaign has been powered by racism and hypocrisy - just like most of the Republicans.

It's old style politics.

It won't work this time.

[mod mom]

76. You mean like this hypocrisy-"Rural Americans for Hillary"=MONSANTO LOBBYISTS

From ABC:

Yee-haw

October 18, 2007 10:06 AM

So later this month, according to THIS INVITATION, the presidential campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, is holding a "Rural Americans for Hillary" lunch and campaign briefing at the end of this month….

..but she's holding it in Washington, DC….

…at a lobbying firm…

… and specifically, though it's not mentioned in the invitation, at the lobbying firm Troutman Sanders Public Affairs…

…which just so happens to lobby for the controversial multinational agri-biotech Monsanto.

You read that right: Monsanto, about which there are serious questions about its culpability regarding 56 Superfund Sites,wanton and "outrageous" pollution, and the decidedly unkosher (and quite metaphoric) genetically-bred "Superpig."

-snip

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2007/10/yee-haw.html




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"When I'm President, I'll have a department of agriculture, not simply a department of agri-business," Obama vowed.

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http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_8040.cfm

[berni_mccoy]

79. WOW! That's deserving of it's own HUGE post!

I'm gonna have to read up on that one. Thanks!

[Major Hogwash]

83. Hillary has never turned down money from any lobbyist, she leads in lobbyist money.

She's the number 1 recipient from the Department of Defense lobbying groups.

[dailykoff]

84. And lies. They're as incapable of truth-telling as Bushler.

And that's just one thing they have in common.

[guruoo]

77. More...

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

82. kicked and I recommended it 2 minutes before time was up

thanks for the well written piece. I hope you put it up at OpEdNews
and or Talking Points Memo.

Thanks.

[hannybal]

85. Orlando Patterson? lol

The kook that went through pains to try to prove that the 3:00 AM ad was racist? His subliminal message theory was really something. So complicated that the Daily Howler had this to day about him:

No, you can’t get dumber than that. And you can’t get more prehistoric.

First, the bad news; the uneasy professor “ha spent life studying the pictures and symbols of racism and slavery.” Another person might have put that sort of work to good use, but Patterson is left with “scenes from the past” that come to his mind—with things he “couldn’t help but think.” Of course, fools that we are, we all have things we’re inclined to think—reactions we’re inclined to have, thoughts that instantly pop into consciousness. But to the extent that we have trained our minds, we then subject such reactions to analysis. Sorry, but Patterson doesn’t go there much. Later on, he again reports the things he “could not help but think.” Soon, he’s throwing the r-word around quite a bit, based on things he “could not help but think.”

...

Really! It’s possible that the ad wasn’t meant to be racist? Patterson, heartbroken by Clinton’s negativity, offers this thought rather late in the game. And he fails to offer another key thought: Voters affected by the ad may not have been reacting racially. They may simply have thought about Clinton and Obama—and decided that Clinton was better tested.

To borrow from an old saying: Sometimes, a cigar is not a racial affront. Patterson never quite seems to grasp this thought, so concerned is this “social linguist” by the fact that Clinton went negative.

In his column, Patterson offers interpretations of this ad that are, simply speaking, inane. For that reason, it’s sad to see him boo-hoo-hooing about the way some people “may” or “could” be “trading on the darkened memories of a twisted past Obama has struggled to transcend.” Part of our history with which Obama has struggled (quite brilliantly, in our view) is the requirement—lodged in the brains of many professors—that every incident in the world must be given a racial reading. Obama has struggle against that quite brilliantly. (It’s a shame that he’s had to do it. Just think of the other social problems this brilliant man might have solved.) But race men like Patterson have played this dumb card ever step of the way in the past four months. They’ve played this card inanely before—but never as inanely as this.

Patterson saw a child asleep in an ad—and he “could not help but think” of the Ku Klux Klan. He saw a mother in the middle of the night—and he “couldn’t help but think” of Birth of a Nation. But when he fails to assess the things he can’t help but think, he produces deeply unintelligent work. When you’re making our society’s most serious charge, you really can’t wait till the final paragraph to say that you might have it wrong.

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh031108.shtml

[HuffleClaw]

86. translation: obama is crashing and burning n/t