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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:29 PM
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McCain is going to be a weak candidate

I was just watching some You-tube debate video's and he is pathetic in all of them. Not to mention he has said he is "No expert on economic issues". I can't think of anything more stupid a presidential candidate could say. Democrats should nail him on that 24/7 from now until election day and scream it so loud and often it will over shadow the Obama / Wright thing.

Sample video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KxgH9l3n4&feature=related
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:31 PM
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1. Be careful
Bush was a dimwit, slacker, dry drunk with no intellectual curiosity, a foul mouth, a barely controlled temper, and a resume of one business failure after the other. He shouldn't have been elected mayor of Crawford. Don't write McCain off so easily.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:37 PM
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6. True, but ...
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 07:38 PM by NanceGreggs
It's a classic case of that was then, this is now. Bush's election (which wasn't an actual election anyway) occurred before the citizenry had to live with the consequences of having an idiot in the WH.

At the time Bush was selected, we had just come off eight years of peace and prosperity, and many Republicans saw a Bush presidency as being "So what if he's not too smart? All he has to do is keep the ball rolling on its present course. How badly could he possibly fuck things up?"

Now, of course, they know.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:45 PM
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12. We differ in our view of the ability of American to learn from their mistakes
I have no faith in the ability of many people to figure out the cause of their problems.

If they could, Bush never would have gotten in in 2004. It would never have been close enough to steal.

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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:47 PM
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13. yeah They would have needed to steal more states than ohio-nt
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:49 PM
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14. And here we are ...
... seven plus years later, and where are Bush's approval numbers?

People have learned - not due to any new-found empathy for their fellow citizens, but due to the fact that BushCo's policies have hit them, up close and personal. And because McCain is offering more of the same, he's already toast.

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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:52 PM
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15. I would like to hope that
but the GOP have proven their ability to sell the American people on just about anything.

I don't begrudge you your optimism. I've just been around too long.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:36 PM
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19. Considering my age ...
... I doubt you've been around longer than I have (and oh, how it pains me to admit that!)

What it always comes down to, time and again with Republican voters, is: What's in it for ME?

They have now learned that what's in it for THEM is the same thing that was in it for those who voted against Bush.

I've often said that where BushCo went wrong was in not handing out secret decoder rings to the faithful, whereby they'd get a discount at the pump, or other advantages that the non-believers would be denied access to.

But now the Bush voters have had ample time to realize that their job is just as likely to be outsourced, that their home is just as likely to be foreclosed on, that their health insurance is just as likely to be canceled as the guy next door - yeah, the guy who was yelling "don't fall for it, 'cause you're gonna get burned" years ago.

It's been a very painful lesson for many - but Bush's numbers prove that the lesson has, in fact, been learned.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:43 PM
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9. bush was also enthusiastically backed by the repub power structure
in a way that McCain is not. He was the son of a President. And 2000 and 2004 are not 2008. I agree it's not wise to write off McCain, but I don't think the comparison works.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:33 PM
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2. Anyone that is stumped for an answer when you ask him his name
can be a very dangerous man.

I certainly wouldn't trust him, but I'd watch him like a hawk.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:34 PM
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3. Exactly, however it turns out we have 2 brilliant minds on ourside tto fix it.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 07:36 PM by barack the house
Apparently McCain failed a load of exams back at school too.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:35 PM
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4. Have you seen the new DNC ad? It's quite effective. Hangs McCheney on his own words. nt
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:35 PM
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5. I thought St. Ronnie was weak too
and guess what? The sheeple elected him twice. I agree McSame is weak, but we can't afford to be complacent about it.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:38 PM
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7. Any Republican would be a weak candidate in todays political climate.
Explains why the Republicans are so involved in smear campaigns and vote rigging of elections.
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:40 PM
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8. I kinda disagree - just because he (compared to the other loonies
we could have had) has taken some of our issues away (or at least muffled them)

torture
Guantanamo
New Orleans
global warming.

That being said, there are plenty of cases where he's flipped or no supported these which we can
nail him on.

His biggest weakness to me:

He's not really big on homeland security and vets- despite everyone thinking so. He voted against
additional funding for mental health care for vets, is against the GI bill. Also, he voted
against additional funding for container inspection and electronic communications devices for
first responders. (i.e. 9-11 problems).
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:45 PM
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10. Democrats would be less fucked
If reporters did not find McCain's BBQ recipe oh so irresistible.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:45 PM
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11. Quixote, you're right , my friend.
He's got so much dirt behind him. We haven't got started yet.
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:56 PM
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17. McCain's .18 cent Gas Tax Holiday Break
Displays his lack of economic policy... If I have a 20 gallon tank, saving .18 cents per gallon $2.60 per fillup and I fillup the tank 2 times a week = $5.20 x 4 weeks = $20.80 savings per month...

Huummmm..... It cost me $25 dollars in gas per day just to drive to work round trip....

Like many of the Nation's policies, Im not so much concerned about the tax; What Im concerned about are the financial economic, energy, foreign and domestic policies and wastes of our tax dollars that have lead to rediculous inflation, corporate welfare and misguided governmental focus all costing the American taxpayer significanly.

The value of the dollar is shrinking, the cost of basic living essentials (food, shelter, energy, healthcare and education ) are going through the damn roof...

And John McCain's answer is to put us in more debt? Why not repeal the Bush tax cuts to the rich? Why not stop the billions in federal tax breaks and grants Oil and Gas companies which are making record breaking profits? Why not standup to the corporate lobbyist and special interest groups and cut their ability to set the agenda... This is how we begin to deal with the problem.

These are some plans Barack Obama has talked about over and over in the 21 debates)....


In case you didn't catch them....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9nla552bH8">Fox News Sunday - Barack Obama pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD-yph99blk">Fox News Sunday - Barack Obama pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbS9ULVwuKs">Fox News Sunday - Barack Obama pt3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue7Bjd_Epjk">Fox News Sunday - Barack Obama pt4

Presidential??? You be the judge....
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:53 PM
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16. He'll have the media behind him, moreso than bush IMO.
Edited on Sun Apr-27-08 07:54 PM by 4themind
So he can't be underestimated, but I will say that given the huge disparity in democratic, vs. republican turnout, it'll be their ability or inability to coalesce around a candidate in the near future than may determine ultimate success. I'm hoping for a Barr/Paul disruptor
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 07:58 PM
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18. Alot of people forget
He's one of the Keating Five.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:41 PM
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21. Just one of his many hits...
LIVE, from Prescott , AZ..It's SUNDAY Night !!



Be sure and pick up a copy of John's latest album..sold in the foyer ..for the low low price of $2.00


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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 08:39 PM
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20. The Repugs know this. That is why he will NOT be the GOP candidate.
Come November, either Hillary or Obama will find themselves fighting against a new GOP rival...and neither of them will be prepared.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-27-08 09:06 PM
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22. And yet
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