Bill Clinton unhinged: advisor says "He doesn't like Obama;" yelled at James Clyburn after SC loss

[TeamJordan23]

When Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign was launched, in January, 2007, her supporters feared that Bill would overshadow her, as he had when they both spoke at the funeral of Coretta Scott King, a year earlier. Now the constant fear is that he will embarrass her. When he makes news, it is rarely a good day for his spouse. Whether he was publicly comparing Barack Obama’s primary victory in South Carolina to Jesse Jackson’s campaigns in the eighties or privately, and apoplectically, complaining that Bill Richardson broke his word by endorsing Obama, every story has seemed to reinforce an image of Clinton as a sort of ill-tempered coot driven a little mad by Obama’s success. “I think this campaign has enraged him,” the adviser told me. “He doesn’t like Obama.” In private conversations, he has been dismissive of his wife’s rival. James Clyburn, an African-American congressman from South Carolina, told me that Clinton called him in the middle of the night after Obama won that state’s primary and raged at him for fifty minutes. “It’s pretty widespread now that African-Americans have lost a whole lot of respect for Bill Clinton,” Clyburn said.

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/2008/05/05/080505ta_talk_lizza

[Coexist]

1. I'll bet it began when Bill's 45 minute, rambling, uninspiring speech

at the 2000 convention was widely panned and Obama's keynote was unparalleled in my lifetime.

Bill's jealous.

[anonymous171]

14. The start of a rivalry.

[Cha]

39. But, instead of being inspired to be

better..bil clinton only went down hill.

[my3boyz]

20. You are right

Bill is ticked because he used to be called the first black president. Now Obama will be the first black president. Bill used to bring in the big crowds but Obama's crowds make Bill's crowds look tiny. Bill used to be the "big dog" fundraiser but Obama has even topped him on that. THEN Obama had the nerve (LOL) to say something about what Bill did as president. LOL Oh and Obama is young and full of energy while Bill is NOT.

[Kittycat]

2. Dear God! Is this the kind of person we want in the WH?

Bill is not the Bill we all knew and loved. He is some other beast, that we should be concerned about.

[YDogg]

34. or thought we knew. or hoped he was.

to me, bill clinton was a pretty damned big disappointment in the end. he was just another liar when it came to keeping his cheney in his pants. imagine how much better off we might have been if lots of voters weren't so disgusted with his shenanigans ... we might be counting down the last days of pres gore's second successful term.

[grantcart]

If you recall back a couple of months people were commenting on how

Clinton would get into Obama's head and get him off message.


Obama gives a little mention of Reagan and Clinton loses his message entriely and blows up in South Carolina

Excellent article.

"gaffe centered media"

[Starbucks Anarchist]

3. Yikes.

[Avalux]

4. Bill Clinton is jealous of Obama. I've thought that for awhile now.

Obama will eclipse him as president and he knows it.

[olkaz]

17. Spot-on.

Obama has taken Clinton's mantle.

Bill now looks look an angry old man.

[Window]

18. Of course Bill is jealous of Sen. Obama.

Folks haven't seen this much excitement about a presidency since JFK.

[dansolo]

22. Which was supposed to be his legacy

Bill always wanted to be viewed as the heir apparent of JFK. But his impeachment killed any hope of that.

[Window]

43. Yes. Exactly.

[JerseygirlCT]

30. Yes, and the comparisons of Obama to a younger Clinton

can't help with that.

That just reminds him that his time has past. The spotlight has moved on. Once again, the generation has turned, and this time, he's the old guy.

I think he's been having a most protracted mid-life crisis!

[Obamanaut]

37. I think it's true what you said. It is hard for us old guys to reconcile

ourselves that often we are just a caricature of our youth.

[JerseygirlCT]

58. Sad, but true!

It's not easy!

[WinkyDink]

38. He's jealous of both candidates.

[roguevalley]

40. I think he's sick, that he has brain damage from his bypass. he

should not be in a forum like the white house. we haven't even begun to see the bad from him, poor guy. If he truly has this problem, he can't help it and he doesn't know it.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

48. Ding ding ding! You got it.

He knows Barack is every bit his equal in intellect, charisma, and political prowess, possibly even surpassing him. He knows he fucked up his own Presidential legacy (and Hillary's aspirations quite honestly) by his dipshitted behavior with a young intern. He knows Barack probably won't make such a stupid mistake and will be able to accomplish everything he couldn't.

[psychopomp]

5. There was a thread this weekend about Bill Clinton urging his wife to campaign even dirtier

Bill Clinton wants to be back in that White House so badly he is willing to kneecap, punch below the belt and smear in any fashion necessary. He needs to become like Gerald Ford was in the nineties--bunting at ceremonies honoring various luminaries, not much else.

[Pirate Smile]

21. This was the article, I believe.

He's Back
Bill Clinton gives his wife's campaign new momentum as he seizes a bigger role

By MONICA LANGLEY
April 26, 2008; Page A1

-snip-
Dubbed the "Billification" of Sen. Clinton's campaign by some insiders, Mr. Clinton has become something of a strategist-in-chief in recent weeks. He has been pushing for harder and sharper attacks on Sen. Obama. While she has jabbed her opponent over his "elitist" tone and controversial statements by his former pastor, Mr. Clinton delivers his own slams on the stump, calling Obama ads misleading.

-snip-
Mr. Clinton has placed several of his own aides at headquarters, including his former lawyer and a bevy of strategists. Known as a bad loser, Mr. Clinton privately buttresses his wife's drive to push on, telling her, according to aides: "We're not quitters."

On his own daily message calls, advisers say, he implores: "We've got to take him on every time." At the Clintons' Washington, D.C., home recently, these people say, he reviewed possible TV spots and told ad makers to be more hard-hitting, faster and harsher.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120917154479246575.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_topbox

[psychopomp]

24. Thanks!

:toast:

[CoffeeCat]

50. Wow, Bill Clinton is going to be in charge...

of Hillary's campaign.

As an Obama supporter, this is a positive thing, because all Bill has done is screw up
everything for Hillary.

If they think that cheap political shots, dirty tricks and attacks are going to somehow help--they
really are crazy, and he just might really be brain damaged.

[AquarianRealm62]

6. Bill can't take not being the BIG DOG..anymore..it's like an old

fading move star, not knowing when to pack it in..and they just run their reputation and good works into the ground, until they are nothing more than a joke of their former selves..and people either pity them, or loathe them.

In this case, different is deficient..ha ha. Billy is completely different and definitely deficient.

[anonymous171]

7. Jealousy is an ugly thing.

[jefferson_dem]

8. Sit down and shut the fuck up Bubba.

You were pretty cool back in the day but now you've officially reached "grumpy old geezer" status.

[dkf]

9. For Bill, its all about BIll. For Hillary, its all about Hillary.

Sigh.

[Kittycat]

10. "driven a little mad" ?!?!?! I think he's lost his mind.

[Barack_America]

11. What's not to like about a guy who registered 100,000 people to vote for your ass?

Get the fuck over yourself, Bill.

[City Lights]

12. Bill sounds bitter.

Seems obvious that Hillary is running for Bill's 3rd term and he's bitter that it's not gonna happen. He thought the nomination would be a cake walk.

On edit - recommended

[MrSlayer]

13. Of course he doesn't like Obama, he's thrown a wrench in the works.

This was supposed to be the corporate coronation year but Obama and those pesky voters have ruined it for him and his queen.

[babylonsister]

15. But I thought it was being blamed on his surgery. Surely that's it.

:eyes: He's pissed they aren't winning. :nopity: Clintons, just go away!

[bowens43]

16. Both of the clintons are completely unhinged

they'll get what is rightfully theres dammit no matter what they have to do to get it....

these to are unfucking believable. They can't be allowed anywhere near the oval office.

[judasdisney]

19. Divide and Conquer

[undeterred]

23. Bill has been upstaged. The mighty EGO roars.

[annie1]

25. i don't blame Bill for dislike obama after he tried to smear the clintons as racist.

it is obama who will do anything to win.

[gaiilonfong]

26. Bill Clinton(NeoCon) is a megalomaniac

A LIAR and a LOSER...GO AWAY Bill you arw a has-been hack!
and take carville with ya!

[book_worm]

27. And who was Bill Clinton when he first ran for president?

he was a small state southern governor who had a bunch of affairs.

[gaiilonfong]

29. Who hired ReTHUGlican strategists to help him win his 2nd term

AND ...don't forget the loses in the house ands Senate because of the megalomaniac NEOCon!

[graycem]

55. So true..

It was that very thing that made them reluctant to actually give him the nomination. And we all know in the end, they just went with it and hoped he could handle the GE. So when they try to say Obama is unelectable, they said the same about Bill, guess he's forgotten that part.

[JerseygirlCT]

28. At the very least I thought he was smarter than that

Seems like once again, his utter lack of self-control is his downfall. Now maybe his wife's downfall as well.

[Citizen_Penn]

31. Is it an alpha male going silverback thing?

must be a guy thing -

[blogslut]

51. More like young lion versus old lion

Bloody business that is.

[Yossariant]

32. Yet: "He still connects better with voters than his wife or Obama."

:rofl:

Poor Barack.

[anonymous171]

33. Too bad Senator Rodham is running for the nomination and not Bill

[Yossariant]

36. Rather off-topic, wouldn't you say.

:rofl:

[graycem]

57. Too bad that he's having

to unfairly campaign against both of them. You know a lot of people are voting for her because they view it as 2-for-1, and getting back the good ole' Clinton '90s. Good grief Obama must be good to be fighting off both of them.

[OzarkDem]

35. Clyburn is a miserable failure as Minority Whip

Why should any Dem care what he has to say when he's done nothing but help the GOP advance their agenda in Congress?

[chascarrillo]

41. "Minority Whip". Nice racism, dude.

[anonymous171]

45. No, it's a position

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_Majority_Whip

[chascarrillo]

60. It's not Clyburn's position. He's the Majority Whip.

[democracy1st]

49. help the GOP thats Bush Clinton Bush Clinton 101

couldn't pass nafta without ol Bill, couldn't pass the 1996 telecommunications Act without ol Bill, couldn't pass welfare reform without ol Bill,couldn't put as many young AA's in prison without ol Bill

[Forkboy]

53. Which has no bearing on whether he's right or wrong here.

[graycem]

56. So are you saying

that we shouldn't care what Senator Clinton has to say, since she has on more than one occasion helped the GOP advance their agenda in the Senate? Iraq War?? Hmm.

[libnnc]

42. called to yell at the man in the middle of the night

for almost an hour.


Classy, Bill. Real classy. :eyes:

[BeyondGeography]

44. A 50-minute rant after that ass-kicking?

Shut up, Bill.

[TheDonkey]

46. Clinton does not like Obama.

Obama has taken swipes at Bill's legacy and is making it very hard for him to get a 3rd term. he is unhinged.

[Eurobabe]

47. Well there goes that DREAM TICKET.

:rofl: :rofl:

Fuck that noise anyhow.

[FrenchieCat]

52. Heard that Bill was jealous.

[graycem]

54. Such a shame..

Even with all the impeachment mess, his legacy was still in good standing with so many of us who defended him. Now he's sank to this. Pitiful. Bill Clinton's biggest problem in all of this is Bill Clinton's ego.

[burythehatchet]

59. Obama has all the skill that Bill had, AND he can keep his dick in his pants