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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:03 AM
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"It took one Clinton to clean up after the first Bush....
and it will take anothe Clinton to clean up after the second Bush".

So what exactly did she mean when she said that? Didn't Bill Clinton staop all investigations into the BCCI scandal? And the Iraqgate scandals? What happened to Iran/Contra?

And just incase there are those who would say that this has nothing to do with todays problems, I offer you some light reading:

This is also true, in some respects, of the 1992 U.S. Senate investigation into what was known as "the BCCI Affair," which left several stones unturned and many questions unanswered. There are two main differences, however. First, the Senate investigation – although it operated within fairly circumscribed limits, pulled many punches, and shied away from some evidence that clearly led to the highest echelons of government -- was actually much more thorough than the official probes of the Kennedy assassination and 9/11. And second, unlike those two investigations, which continue to generate heated interest year after year, the BCCI Affair has been almost completely erased from public memory. Yet a grasp of BCCI's operations – many of which simply continued in other guises when the "bank" itself disappeared – is essential to understanding much of what is happening in the political world today, including Edmonds' revelations.

http://baltimorechronicle.com/2008/011008Floyd.shtml


Also see:
Kerry will later conclude that the Justice Department in particular went to great lengths to block his and Morgenthau’s investigations “through a variety of mechanisms, ranging from not making witnesses available, to not returning phone calls, to claiming that every aspect of the case was under investigation in a period when little, if anything was being done.” After the Bank of England shuts down BCCI in July 1991 (see July 5, 1991), making big headlines, Under Assistant Attorney General Robert Mueller takes over Justice Department efforts on BCCI and assigns many new attorneys to the case. But Kerry will ultimately conclude that the indictments the Justice Department brings forth against BCCI after that time were narrower and less detailed than those of Morgenthau’s, and often seemed to be in response to what Morgenthau was doing. Kerry submits his report on BCCI in December 1992, and after that investigations into BCCI peter out. President Bush will appoint Mueller to be director of the FBI shortly before 9/11 (see September 4, 2001).

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&financing_of_al-qaeda:_a_more_detailed_look=complete_911_timeline_bcci


Note that Mueller was one of many people to return to the services of the Bush family after Clinton's administration. An administration that had the report on it's desk when they took office one month after Kerry released the report, and did nothing about it..

So who wants to let Hillary "clean up" after the most disastrous and criminal Presidency in American history?

Not me.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:04 AM
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1. And not me.
Here's to you.
:toast:

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:25 AM
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30. See, that's the problem: The *FIRST* Clinton *DIDN'T* clean up after the first Bush.
He just let them all "get away with it" so they were all
still available eight years later to retrn the scene of
the crime and pick up right where the left off.

That's one of the reasons why I don't want to see a
second Clinton sent in to clean up after the second Bush:
she won't do it.

Tesha
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:40 AM
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39. Some people classify sweeping the dirt under the carpet as cleaning.
It is time to make the case to the uninformed that 1) this happened and 2) we cannot afford to repeat it. Time to clean house in DC--WH and on Capitol Hill.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:37 AM
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38. me too.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:09 AM
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2. God herself would have to come down from on high to clean up
after dipshit, but since She isn't available, we will have to rely on Barack!

*exploding hillbots going "Aha, I knew it, you Obamatons (or Obamababies :puke: )really do think he's the Messiah". I think some of them have had their sense of humor surgically removed;)
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:46 AM
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10. Go to any discussion post and talk against Rev. Wright
being a center of attention in this election and you will be attacked. It's like he too is a Messiah.

I don't believe he is running for office but acts like it.
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:34 AM
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16. LOL... nice characterization.
You complain about Wright "being the center of attention" but conveniently ignore who put him there.

Here are some hints;

- It wasn't Obama or his supporters.
- It wasn't Wright.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5712201#5712685

Puh-leeze "mac"... that's just weak.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:52 AM
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18. ...
I believe I was saying Obama isn't the Messiah, but you know, glad I could give you an opening to spew about Rev. Wright.....
:crazy:
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:24 AM
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3. It has everything to do with what is going on today.
Hell, it probably has everything to do with the last 40 years or so of our history given that GHW Bush's name is on the other side of the equation.

I've been thinking many of the same things. Good post. K&R.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:31 AM
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4. I'll take anyone who can clean it up.
But I doubt they will since it seems like the same ole, same ole Senators.
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Ashy Larry Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:36 AM
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5. Good point.
Also, that quote is another example of Hillary not running on her own merits but rather on her husband's (whether real or perceived).
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:44 AM
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8. ...be they merits, or demerits!
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:45 AM by ingin

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:41 AM
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6. Clean up by sweeping it under the rug...
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:42 AM
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7. Yes..the rug has lots of political dirt under it.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:42 AM by mac2
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:01 AM
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12. I was about to say...
Bill Clinton didn't do a very good job cleaning up after Bush.

Because we ended up with another one! :mad:
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:45 AM
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9. no it took one clinton to continue the empires expansionists policies .... time to get off the
monroe doctrines creation of a corporate driven empire...
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Blue State Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:59 AM
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11. Cheers!
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:01 AM
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13. the true analogy is: a Clinton was so bad that the country was willing to put a Bush back in Office
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:55 AM
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20. The country was NOT "willing to put a Bush back in office." The Supreme Court was.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:50 AM
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23. somebody was voting for Bush
if Bill hadn't fucked up so bad, Al Gore would have won in a landslide.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:18 AM
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14. #5
NT!

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:20 AM
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15. Time for Change. Obama. Let someone else try to
clean up after these dynastic rulers.
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ruby slippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:50 AM
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17. and Obama will cut down the Bushes and clean up both piles of....
S**T
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:53 AM
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19. It took a Clinton to usher in another 8 years of Bush
and it will take Obama to stop anymore such foolishness.
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newmajority Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:01 AM
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21. 28 years of BushClinton trickle down corporatist reverse robin hood middle class destroying bullshit
And NOBODY named Clinton is capable of cleaning it up. Because they are, and always have been, part of the problem.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:46 AM
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22. Hillary is the person that can clean up america.
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:09 AM
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24. I have trouble believing....
she meant cleaning up after another Bush by way of mopping, folding table cloths, sweeping and scooching chairs around after Obama's eventful night at the Convention? Somehow I don't think thats what she meant nor do I think it would be appropriate for a former First Lady/Sen. to be asked, but lets face it, they are just a little scrapped for cash over at Camp Clinton these days, no?

3...2...1....
thats the clock ticking before someone that can't distinguish between humor and sarcasm screams about sexism. just wait.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:22 AM
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25. that is...
a big "if" she is scrapped for cash? Wed. after Pa. Primary all the M$M media were talking about was like $93,000,000,000,000,000.43 per second comming in to annoint the Queen and her lopsided, overwhelming, tide changing, earth quaking win?

And the M$M would never lie, never. The mere thought of a media with a political agenda stands the hair up on the back of my neck coupled with eerie goosebumps thinking that in America even the news is for sale to the highest bidder. :tinfoilhat:

Say it ain't so!
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:23 AM
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29. do you know how broke hillary is?
hillary is sooo broke she won't answer the red phone at 3 am because she knows it is the bill collectors and they no longer accept campaign checks. help me with the hillary is soo broke jokes obama people. let's laugh a little.
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pompano Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:00 AM
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32. Well she is broke...
the whole campaign is broke. Those folks are so broke they had to change a flat tire...






on their campaign headquarters!

Those goal posts mashed the air out.
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psychmommy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:14 AM
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33. ha ha-on their headquarters.
she is sooo broke that that her campaign bus has become a campaign 18 seater econoline van.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:51 AM
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26. And she is right about that.
the first Bush left this country much like now, a smoldering decayed mess.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:04 AM
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27. This is why I have little problem calling them Billary or Hilliam
they work as a team, and refer to themselves (clintons) almost seamlessly
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:08 AM
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28. For some, "cleaning up" means "sweeping under the rug". Out of sight, out of mind.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:26 AM
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31. Bingo! (NT)
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:01 AM
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37. Exactly! n/t
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:19 AM
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34. It takes a Clinton to exonerate a Bush
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:19 AM
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35. It really means: IT TAKES A CLINTON TO SWEEP THE CRIMES OF A BUSH UNDER THE RUG"
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:46 AM
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36. I truly believe that is why Hillary decided to run this time around to "CLEAN UP"
by sweeping everything under the Oval Office Rug. The Bushies and the Clintons are PROTECTING EACH OTHER.

I've often thought that perhaps Kerry asked Obama to run, so the Clintons couldn't do another massive COVER-UP. That's why I think if Obama WINS, that Kerry would make an excellent Attorney General. Kerry could restore our faith in the government. He KNOWS where the DIRT is buried, and I don't think he would hesitate to bring everything up again. Especially how he has been treated by the two families.

The Clintons and the Bushies have both been funded by Jackson Stephens, and Stephens has some very shady dealings from BCCI, to his data based companies, such as Systematics (which became Alltel, then it became Axciom)

Alltel was the incarnation of the company that provided the software for the White House's "Big Brother" data base system, and Systematics was the incarnation of the company when it was behind the administration's plan to develop the secret computer "Clipper" chip to bug every phone, fax, and email transmission in America.

I'm still doing some research concerning some of these connections.





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