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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:25 AM
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Rev. Jeremiah Wright gave a sermon on April 13, 2003, titled, “Confusing God and Government” that included the "God Damn America" reference. He also says that God blesses and damns governments. He concludes saying

“Tell your neighbor he’s (going to) help us one last time. Turn back and say forgive him for the God Damn, that’s in the Bible though. Blessings and curses is in the Bible. It’s in the Bible.




A little earlier in the sermon he said this

“But guess what? Governments change. Under Bill Clinton, we got a messed up welfare to work bill, but under Clinton blacks had an intelligent friend in the Oval Office. Oh, but governments change.”





When President Clinton was suffering the worst defeat of his political life and his affair and perjury was exposed he asked some well known pastors to come and help him.


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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:27 AM
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1. K&R ...
Reason: Obvious.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:24 AM
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9. thanks
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:56 PM
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21. K&R. n/t
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:29 AM
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2. !
:kick:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:00 AM
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20. ..
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:30 AM
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3. and the Clintons repaid him
with thorns and vinegar
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:32 AM
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5. you can't choose your thorn but you can choose your vinegar
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:47 AM
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11. "Thorns and vinegar" is too cool-sounding for the bucket of shit they dumped on his head.
To this day, continuing to push the "Wright issue" to superdelegates... Fuck. Them.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:30 AM
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4. Thanks. Grantcart....
What the MSM has done to him is disgusting.

I HOPE that the airtime at CNN tonight gets people to watch the whole speech from tonight on Youtube...

I think it'll make people see why Obama didn't abandon his pastor.


I just LOVE what I saw tonight.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:33 AM
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6. Here:s the link for the transcript
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Juan_de_la_Dem Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:56 PM
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24. Thanks for this...appreciate it
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:34 AM
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7. K&R
After listening to Rev. Wright on Bill Moyers, it is safe to say he is one of the great biblical scholars of the present day.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:51 AM
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8. grantcart, you are a shining light. an oft bright candle in the sometimes DU darker side
of tunnel vision. K&R.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:58 AM
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10. thanks
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:49 AM
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12. K&R for the truth!!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:05 AM
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13. Thanks
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:42 AM
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14. K & R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:05 AM
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16. thanks
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:04 AM
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15. Those who can't show loyalty, lose the loyalty of others

Clinton donors are now switching to Obama, SDs have switched and
"friends" aren't taking the Clinton's bait (er, harrassment) anymore.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:18 AM
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17. I would guess that Richardson would agree with you
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:43 AM
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18. It is quite obvious why the Clintons have turned their backs on the African American community.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:53 AM
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19. or why they embraced them in the first place
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:57 PM
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22. K&R n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:13 PM
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25. tks
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:37 PM
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23. kick n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:21 PM
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26. thanks
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Bigleaf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:23 PM
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27. K&R
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:14 PM
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28. thanks biggie
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:35 PM
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29. You hate to make opinions from far off but...sigh....
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:59 PM
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30. K & R
:thumbsup:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:00 PM
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31. thanks
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