Rev Wright issue. Attention Catholics: Draft survey: 4,450 priests accused of sex abuse

[Dyllyn]

70% of Catholics in PA voted for Hillary . Hillary said that if Rev Wright was her Pastor she would have left his church .

I ask you is it fair to apply this standard to Obama and not to Catholics who have seen there Pastor's carry out crimes against children that are way worse that what Rev Wright said.

Catholics (I am one) we should not judge Obama and his relationship with his church and differently than we judge ourselves .

I have no intention of renouncing my church despite what they have done . I believe every Catholic who is still attending church is taking the same position as Obama did with his. it would be a gross hypocrisy to complain about Obama's Pastor and ignore many of our own

[Bucky]

1. I'm not sure how you're able to work Clinton into this.

You know that Clinton isn't a Catholic, right?

[Dyllyn]

3. Of course I do .

Using Hillary's yard stick . Catholics should be walking out in droves . I am suggesting to Catholics who believe Obama should leave his church are being way to critical considering the crimes the catholic Church has commited

[Yossariant]

8. You're missing the boat here.

If the Catholic priests were trying to explain that abusing children is acceptable UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES -- celibacy, loneliness, isolation --

Wright is trying to explain that calling on God to damn America is acceptable UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES --- slavery, poor education, giving drugs to black people ---

They are not the same -- or comparable in any way.

[Bucky]

10. Actually, no.

Not to defend Clinton's silly arguments, but she only said she'd leave the church, not renounce her faith. You're suggesting Catholics should quit going to church--or pick a different denomination--because some ministers in some congregations did terrible things. Clinton's point clearly was that she'd go to a new church, not that she'd reaffiliate herself with a different brand of Christianity.

Not that I'm comparing (as you seem to be) Wright's inflamatory rhetoric with child abuse.

[Dyllyn]

11. The Catholic Church is one Church .

[Bucky]

13. You're being deliberately obtuse. It's one faith, but not one congregation.

Quit playing word games. Your point was stupid. Deal with it.

[Dyllyn]

14. To rephrase Hill suggesting Obama stop attending his church would be the same as telling Catholics

to stop going to "their" church because of the actions of an individual. She is wrong .

[ShortnFiery]

5. Yes, but HRC doesn't listen to the leader of HER Methodist Church who said that Rev Wright

is a good man and preaches the "social gospel." He called for politicians to stop tormenting him. Too bad Shrill Hilly doesn't listen when it could cost her a few votes. :shrug:

[Dyllyn]

6. Agreed

[Little Star]

2. First off, catholics have renounced the priests. Secondly, if the priests were openly

promoting pedopilia, I assume most catholics would be running for the door.

So there is your answer.

[Dyllyn]

4. They have also forgiven them !!

Obama disagrees with Wright it would be Un-Christian of him to go any further than that . That is all I am saying.

Judge not lest ye be judged etc

[Little Star]

7. Forgiveness does not mean agreeing. If catholics were sitting in a church

with an open pedophile, I would be blaming them.

I don't think you have a very good argument.

People didn't know their priest was a pedophile, Barack knows who his pastor is.

[Dyllyn]

12. Obama does not agree with Wright

We as Catholics do not agree with how our church has behaved.

Equating Catholics with the behaviour of our priests is wrong and it is also wrong to say Obama should have left his church

[boston bean]

15. Catholics, have disavowed, disowned those priests, Obama refuses to do so.

you keep interchanging the church with individual priests or pastors, that is where you argument fails.

[Dyllyn]

16. That's because Hill said she'd look for a new church

Not a new Pastor. did she not?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. You Can Forgive Without Countenancing

I think that's the foundation of Christianity...