Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Reverand Wright is being a selfish jerk -this is not the time for his side show to air.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:18 AM
Original message
Reverand Wright is being a selfish jerk -this is not the time for his side show to air.
he is deliberately fanning the flames and drawing attention to himself.

As someone who lives in North Carolina, he is not doing Obama any favors here.

What an asshat.

Now is not the time to run the Jeremeiah Wright show.

President McCain, anyone?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:20 AM
Response to Original message
1. Sorry I disagree. This humanizes this fine American.
Let him define who he is for once.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. Amen to you.
He is right that this an attack on the black church.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #1
8. Maybe but I don't think making fun of JFK's accent helped
He could have made his point without that.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #8
22. I always thought New Englanders talk funny. As I am sure that they think the same of me. You are
just to serious for my taste.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #22
28. No doubt, but how will mainstream America
view making fun of a beloved dead president?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #22
38. well, it was inappropriate, but the point he was making was a false comparison
the New Englander accent is not a distinct language from American English.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #38
59. Wright will increase turnout of racist party switchers in NC - see WaPo Article:

Democrats Registering In Record Numbers
1 Million New Voters For Last 7 Primaries

By Eli Saslow Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, April 28, 2008; Page A01


<snip>

'Not Going to Sit at Home'

Al Landsberg, 66, approached the counter of the voter registration office at 4 p.m., an hour before deadline. Hefty, with a hint of sweat on his white mustache, he looked as drained as the employees behind the counter who rested their heads in their hands. Voting exhausted him. Ever since he cast a ballot for Ronald Reagan, Landsberg has always felt as though he was trying to choose the lesser of two evils.

For this election, though, he decided he had no choice but to vote. A lifelong Republican, he planned to switch his party affiliation so he could vote in the Democratic primary. That Hillary Clinton wasn't great, he said, but she was just as good as presumptive GOP nominee John McCain and a heck of a lot better than that other guy, "you know, uh, Embowa. He'd take this country right down the tubes."

Landsberg's wife, Evelyn, collects porcelain dolls, and her co-collectors send the Landsbergs frequent political e-mails, most of them critical of Obama. "From what I can tell, if he becomes president he will refuse to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance and we will leave Iraq unprepared," Landsberg said. "I'm not going to sit at home and let that happen."

He needed something to do, anyway. He recently retired after five-plus years in the Marine Corps and 40 years in the printing business, and Evelyn still works at an electrical supplier. Their three children moved out long ago. The Landsbergs save what extra money they have for three or four annual trips to Las Vegas, where they can find a cheap hotel room, play the dollar slots and smoke -- indoors and in peace.

They never travel outside the United States, save the occasional Caribbean cruise. "Anything you want to see, you can see it right here," Evelyn said. Plus, they prefer to spend their tourist money at home, just as they buy only American-made cars. Not enough people look out for America these days, Landsberg said.

Like McCain, with his free-and-easy stance on immigration, which seems almost identical to Clinton's. Landsberg's father had come from Germany, first jumping ship illegally and then, after a few years and some English classes, through Ellis Island. He met Landsberg's mother during the legal immigration process.

<snip>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/27/AR2008042702272_3.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2008042702368

There's plenty more racist where he came from, and Wright will bring them out of the woodwork.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #38
63. Here is WaPo article formatted, with racist comments by NC party switcher highlighted
The WAPO has a 4 page article about the high voter registration numbers in North Carolina, and interviews a few of the new voters and some party switchers. Its clear that some GOP turned DEM/or independent are voting based on their racism. This is an example of why Rev Wright's latest grab for publicity will greatly harm Obama

Democrats Registering In Record Numbers - 1 Million New Voters For Last 7 Primaries

By Eli Saslow Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, April 28, 2008; Page A01

<snip>

'Not Going to Sit at Home'

Al Landsberg, 66, approached the counter of the voter registration office at 4 p.m., an hour before deadline. Hefty, with a hint of sweat on his white mustache, he looked as drained as the employees behind the counter who rested their heads in their hands. Voting exhausted him. Ever since he cast a ballot for Ronald Reagan, Landsberg has always felt as though he was trying to choose the lesser of two evils.

For this election, though, he decided he had no choice but to vote. A lifelong Republican, he planned to switch his party affiliation so he could vote in the Democratic primary. That Hillary Clinton wasn't great, he said, but she was just as good as presumptive GOP nominee John McCain and a heck of a lot better than that other guy, "you know, uh, Embowa. He'd take this country right down the tubes."

Landsberg's wife, Evelyn, collects porcelain dolls, and her co-collectors send the Landsbergs frequent political e-mails, most of them critical of Obama. "From what I can tell, if he becomes president he will refuse to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance and we will leave Iraq unprepared," Landsberg said. "I'm not going to sit at home and let that happen."

He needed something to do, anyway. He recently retired after five-plus years in the Marine Corps and 40 years in the printing business, and Evelyn still works at an electrical supplier. Their three children moved out long ago. The Landsbergs save what extra money they have for three or four annual trips to Las Vegas, where they can find a cheap hotel room, play the dollar slots and smoke -- indoors and in peace.

They never travel outside the United States, save the occasional Caribbean cruise. "Anything you want to see, you can see it right here," Evelyn said. Plus, they prefer to spend their tourist money at home, just as they buy only American-made cars. Not enough people look out for America these days, Landsberg said.

Like McCain, with his free-and-easy stance on immigration, which seems almost identical to Clinton's. Landsberg's father had come from Germany, first jumping ship illegally and then, after a few years and some English classes, through Ellis Island. He met Landsberg's mother during the legal immigration process.

<snip>

...more at the link


There's plenty more racists where he came from in North Carolina, and Rev Wright's "publicity tour" in the media will bring them out of the woodwork.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #22
67. Then let's play "Ebonics" shall we?
No, we won't, because it's racist and rude.

Well then, let's just start comparing and contrasting Obama's Stump speech to his "Black Church Accent?"

No, we won't do that either, as it's also racist and rude.

Just as an aside, Do you know what AA people call fellow AA people who normally speak in one fashion, but play up the accent and patter for effect?

"Hood Hogs."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #1
18. The problem is that he has already been "defined" in the media.
A sad, sad fact we need to realistically face. The man has a perfect right to speak up about his beliefs and he sees a platform for those beliefs. The media is picking up everything he is saying. So from his perspective, it is a good thing that this happened. It adds to the political speech going on in this country today. Free speech is a hallmark of our democracy.

However, we need to be very realistic and confront the fact that the other side, through a willing and lazy media, has their "free" speech. We need to not be surprised when the media distorts everything Wright says. We call it a sideshow, they'll just call it "free" speech and press. I think we've seen how this show ends...

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #18
64. So we treat this by hiding him away, like we did with issues in 2004?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #64
69. No, we can't even if we wanted to. I am only asking for people here to
look at this realistically. Let's stop with the circular firing squad and concentrate on how to defeat McCain in the GE. Let's talk about the issues and hammer away at the differences between either of our candidates and McLame.

It is a waste of our time and creativity to keep arguing about Rev. Wright. What you are saying is true. AND it is also true that the media will distort and confuse. That's the reality.

So if we're going to rant, let's rant about McSame.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #1
20. I have defended him many times, many many many
he is selfish and wrong in what he is doing and it DOES hurt Obama.

If I am wrong, I will apologize later.

This is hurting Obama politically.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #1
33. not to undecided voters - 10% and not to independent voters 20%
it will greatly hurt Obama's numbers in NC.

I have already heard from some racist GOPs who switched to independent to vote for
Hillary in the Dem primary.

Wright helps to paint the African American as a characature.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #1
39. I will not defend Wright again - he's marginalizing Obama as "black" candidate not the DEM Candidate
this is only good for Wright and his book sales.

It won't help Obama gain votes and it will cost him votes, especially in my state of NC.

Obama needed the independent and undecided.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #39
65. "Book Sales"...that right wing talking point pundits use ALL THE TIME!!!
Outrageous!

Now you pissed me off pal. Bye Bye to you and your ignorant, disgusting ass.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mr. Hawk Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:21 AM
Response to Original message
2. you're missing the point
this is why we should all support HRC. she's been battle tested and vented.

The Rev. Wright will be an albatross around BHO's neck and will sink him in November. This issue ain't gonna magically disappear.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #2
7. no. she is not battle tested and "vented"
she's losing the battle for the nomination and she has NOT been vetted since the 90s,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:29 AM
Response to Reply #7
21. exactly, the media is completely silent on her serious negatives
they aren't saying a thing right now, they are holding back.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:24 AM
Original message
and Hillary isn't going to magically increase her delegate count, "Mr. Hawk".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:24 AM
Response to Reply #2
10. Wrong of course, but what else is new.... We can have both a Barack Obama and...
a Rev. Wright in America. One as maybe one of the greatest Presidents that this country has ever seen and one as one of the greatest religious people ever witnessed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #2
15. That's good to hear
Because she really needed some "venting" before something blew.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:22 AM
Response to Original message
3. So you think because our infamous MSM chooses to spin Rev. Wright...
as some nutty black preacher that he should put his life on hold? Sorry but my opinion differs from yours on this. It's about time Americans woke up and realized that the country is not just about the white folk. This man is so intelligent he makes many look less than normal.

If Rev. Wright is that much of a threat to Obama's winning the GE then I guess America deserves what it gets come November.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #3
23. so I think that Wright chose to go to the press club knowing it would generate a shit storm
The media didn't seek the story, Wright sought the story by holding a press conference,
by inviting them.

HE IS MILKING THE PUBLICITY AT OBAMA'S EXPENSE.

At great expense.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #23
24. If Obama doesn't have a problem with this, I think you should get over it. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #24
43. you aren't paying attention. the media on this will wound Obama
I keep up with the daily news, and create an Obama Supporters Daily News Thread each day.

Been doing that for some time now. I know how this will play out.

The timing is horrible for Obama.

This will make him seem more different from most people, instead of more like.

Voters vote for someone they think is like them. Not someone controversial.

Wright is making Obama more controversial by association, its a fact, whether you
think it fair or right.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #43
51. I say again, if Obama doesn't have a problem with this you better get over it....
If it takes something like this to jeopardize Obama's Presidential ambitions then the American people deserve what comes next... End of story.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
5. If he doesn't speak now he will not be heard. Once the race is over the media will move on.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 08:23 AM by GodlessBiker
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
oviedodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
6. He is only the focus because of who he is linked to and the race of the individuals if it was not
then Hagee would be on CNN, Falwell, and the rest of the republican pastors through the decades and today.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cornus Donating Member (720 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
9. He speaks the TRUTH.
Listen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
11. Why, oh why now Rev Wright? You are sinking your candidate
for your own selfish reasons. I do not support your candidate but I do not want him tombstoned because of you either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mezzo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
12. I think he is doing OBama considerable damage. More than Hillary could ever do. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:25 AM
Response to Original message
13. This is the Rev. Wright's rehab redux
And is on the media trail to a build-up to promote his book that is to come out in the next year. It's all about promoting his book. Nothing more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:28 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. His book is coming out later this year -- That's worse
The timing will bring it out closer to the election.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:26 AM
Response to Original message
14. How can you fault this guy for sticking up for himself?
I mean really... he's been ripped apart by the media constantly. I dont blame him one bit. Whats he supposed to do? Put his life on hold? Its not HIS fault the media is obessed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #14
26. I don't fault him for his sticking up for himself, however
I believe he is merely doing this to promote his book. Just because he is a Reverand doesn't disclude him from what most people do when they write a book.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:44 AM
Response to Reply #26
46. That could very well be.
Is is the American way after all! :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:32 AM
Response to Reply #14
27. you're right, his reputation is more important that Obama winning the presidency
its fine to divide and destroy the democratic party, which is what will happen if
McCain is elected, thanks to shit like Wright is generating.

Oh well, I guess I can move to a country that has universal health care, since ourse
won't ever see that.

Oh and convert all dollars to euros before the total collapse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #27
45. Did you even watch the speech he just gave?
Wright is not going to cost Obama the election. This is a camp Hillary talking point and its sad to see it seeping into the Obama community.

And on the issue of dollars, we may well end up with AmerEuros anyway if HRC is president. But thats a whole other conversation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #45
52. I'm watching what the massive media coverage is doing with it
thats how Dean lost the primary in 2004, the media spinned it.

Doesn't matter if Wright is God's gift to explaning race or not, his timing is selfish and wrong.

The media will take every minute, every word, and spin it against Obama.

You thought those 30 second sound bites were bad, he's giving them 3 hours of 30 second sound bites.

He's a gift to the Clinton/McCain campaign.

Oh well, doesn't matter if we agree, I wish I could stop the media -but no one can,
and they now have piles of ammo to use against Obama.

Enjoy your Wrightness.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #52
60. As Obama supporters...
We shouldnt be repeating those talking points, however. Whether Wright vanished last week or not it would still be an issue in November. The damage is already done - so we need to find a way to counter it.

Obama is not Rev. Wright.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:28 AM
Response to Original message
17. Laura- I invite you to LISTEN to his words-- he's not fanning any flames- he's diffusing them
but the MSM is not allowing him to do this by playing the sound bites (starting with the Moyers interview last week)that make him sound like an angry, black preacher thereby feeding the racist, fear frenzy (and motivating Dems to reconsider Hillary- the "safe, white woman" or more importantly-giving McShame (who is directly connected with a pastor that is truly a racist, homophobic monster) a free rid.

If you listen- really listen to what he is saying carefully you'll see that he thoughtful, insightful, inspiring and also- factual. Please--- anyone who is buying the media shit that Rev. Wright is destroying Obama- I beg you- stop for a minute and see what is going on here.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:33 AM
Response to Reply #17
29. bullshit. The media is having a field day with this - nows not the time to feed his ego
the guy is selfish and is only hurting Obama.

Watch the media, they are making it worse by giving him ungodly amounts
of air time.

This will hurt Obama in North Carolina, I guarantee you that.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:28 AM
Response to Original message
19. "Selfish jerk" is a bit strong -- But he's sure not being a friend to Obama
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 08:28 AM by Armstead
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:32 AM
Response to Original message
25. You jump on your soapbox as he does his. Is this not a free country anymore? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
30. Can you elaborate on "not doing him any favors here?"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:36 AM
Response to Reply #30
35. look at the negative press this is giving Obama - turn on your tv, thats where most people get views
watch CNN, MSNBC, etc - this is hurting Obama.

More shit for him to have to explain. MORE.

Thanks selfish Wright who has a book to sell.

I defend the man no more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #35
41. I disagree. The more Wright is out there on his own..the more it distances Obama
What are they going to ask Obama now?
What will be the presses first question to Obama about the current Wright rhetoric?
There is nothing inflammatory about it?

"Mr Obama....do you agree that Rev Wright is out there speaking?"

How is the MSM gonna spin this against Obama?

WHO HAS NOT SEEN THE YOUTUBE CLIPS????

This smothers that!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
31. Yes, little Jeremaiah. Be a good boy and just sit down, be quiet and don't interrupt the white folks
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 08:38 AM by EffieBlack
while they discuss you amongst themselves. They'll let you know when you can say something.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MeDeMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:37 AM
Response to Reply #31
36. amen !
that is exactly what Fox News is demanding Jeremiah do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:34 AM
Response to Original message
32. The NAACP disagrees...
from the intro he received, Wright was doing exactly what he was invited to do. And there was nothing divisive about his message of unity. If the media chooses to twist it, and there are political implications, fuck it - it just shows everybody who actually listened to the speech how wrong the media is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MeDeMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:36 AM
Response to Original message
34. I disagree
Jeremiah kept quiet so as not to fan flames that would hurt Obama, and guess what happened in Ohio, Texas & Pennsylvania ?

White blue-collar voters went for Hillary 72% to 28%.

I have a few simple questions, guess who went to the inner city Chicago and helped organize displaced blue-collar workers ? and guess who helped pass NAFTA and a bunch of other trade agreements since ?

One candidate dives into the trenches and helps uplift the affected, the other candidate accelerates the fall of the blue-collar class and these voters overwhelmingly voted for Hillary.

I think it is high time that an educated black leader like Jeremiah stand up and speak and explain himself. Until now, the media, especially fox with their "GD america" slogan, has been defining him.

When you bring whispers and rumors from the shadows into light, people see the truth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:37 AM
Response to Original message
37. He has a right to defend himself but now it has
it is time to move on all round.
Enough of Rev. Wright already.

It's unfair but there it is. this does not help any of us for this nonsensical "contoversy" to continue to occupy the air waves and the public discourse.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:40 AM
Response to Reply #37
40. They've been vilifying this man for the past 7 weeks, he spoke up for the first time on Friday
and it's already time for him to shut up?

Do you REALLY think that if he shuts up, the controversy will go away? Of course it won't - it would just go back to be a one-sided trashfest of a great man.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #40
55. I know - it's unfair
but I don't think this serves Obama.
Prolonging this just has people drilling down into the details.

But whatever - nothing you or I can do about it anyway.
The media has its meat and it will feed. Too bad.
It is a terrible distraction that will only bring out the worst in everybody.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:41 AM
Response to Original message
42. i agree. he is doing it to increase his recognition and stature, and doing a disservice to Obama
he could have waited 6 months.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #42
61. Well - it certainly does not help right now.
Is it possible he is angry with Obama?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:42 AM
Response to Original message
44. Its a red herring
A deliberate distraction from discussing critical issues in the campaign.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
graycem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:45 AM
Response to Original message
47. But
some of the talking heads this morning have actually been presenting him in a different light.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:46 AM
Response to Original message
48. What does he owe Obama?
I support Obama, but really what does Wright owe him? He has to live his own life, do his own thing. Obama had no problem renouncing him, so he is a free agent now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #48
53. He is USING Obama for self promotion
either his judgement is very poor, or he just cares about selling his book.

This is the worst possible thing he could do when Obama needs every vote he can get.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #48
58. nothing. But, is he trying to HURT Obama? If so, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:47 AM
Response to Original message
49. The audacity!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:47 AM
Response to Original message
50. I agree.
I did not see the point in it. Why did he give this interview? It is clear that pro-Obama supporters are going to applaud it no matter what. So why did he do it? To win the right? Well he has a strange way of winning people over and he is lighting up the RW boards but i am afraid not in a positive light. So why? I just cannot figure it out. He said those things in the past. You feel the way about it and the interviews are not really changing many minds. i would much more interested in an interview with Obama's sequestered grandmother. Now that would be a little more telling. But alas she seems indisposed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:49 AM
Response to Original message
54. Many are attracted to spotlights. Rev.Wright appears to be one
of them. It would probably be better for Obama if he would pipe down, at least until the election is over.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:58 AM
Response to Original message
56. I do feel he gives the Repugs ammno and can not be good for the Dems.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:59 AM
Response to Original message
57. As a hoosier Obama supporter- I TOTALLY agree! Sorry guys, this could NOT be worse for Obama.
He is truly a selfish, ego-driven person, and in MY opinion, not a "man of God". I don't believe Obama shares these qualities of this man, but I am well-informed. This could give Hillary a big win in Indiana. I feel so sorry for this poor woman trying to ask questions. THIS JUST SUCKS! WHY COULDN'T HE WAIT A FEW MORE WEEKS!?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:08 AM
Response to Original message
62. Spin that turd.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:38 AM
Response to Original message
66. Only one person sounds like an asshat, and I'm sorry that its you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:57 AM
Response to Original message
68. Rev Wright is fighting back against ignorant hatred of our Churches
Deal with it.

If White hatred and ignorance bring 4 or 8 years of John McCain, America deserves it for 200 years of throwing Black people under the bus. Grow up and join the 21st century.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:01 AM
Response to Original message
70. I totally disagree. The Clintons and the media are out to get him...
they are using a man of God as politics. He should defend himself.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2039
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC