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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:33 AM
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Hillary supporter here. I'll say it: Rev. Wright was GREAT this morning.
Very thoughtful, not bombastic. Learned and thoughtful. Good job, sir.

Bake
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:33 AM
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1. thank you!
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:34 AM
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2. Great for Hillary...yes, he was. nt
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:35 AM
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3. I thought it started out well, but he fell back on his racist, divisive bullshit about
learning differences between blacks and white. His statement about this being an attack on the black church is BULLSHIT. This is about HIS crazy talk. What an egomaniac.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:37 AM
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6. I'm talking about this morning's speech to the National Press Club
The one on reconciliation.

Bake
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:56 AM
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12. Me too. I started a thread saying the same thing. But as he has gone on, I have been turned
off and dismayed.

This is NOT about the black church. This is about Rev. Jeremiah Wright making some controversial, often racist, divisive comments. He's very disingenuous about that. Not good, for a pastor, don't you think?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5715227&mesg_id=5715227
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:38 AM
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7. Awww, you found something to hate about him! What a surprise! nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:15 AM
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24. You really should unload that picture of the Edwards family
if you're going to continue in this vein.
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Bensthename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:36 AM
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4. LOL.. Wright " I served in the military.. Did Cheney" ?..
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:37 AM
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5. Nice, Bake. Funny how a man might make sense when taken
in context. Too bad the m$m won't do that.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:45 AM
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8. I dunno. I want to like this, but it seems very confrontational.
He doesn't seem as interested in reaching understanding so much as combatting his detractors. He could probably be more persuasive. He's right, but he's not really winning anyone over.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:54 AM
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He got a standing ovation....
...I think he probably won some people over.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:03 AM
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14. Yeah. The more I watched, the more I enjoyed it.
There were some times where it seemed like he just wanted to get in his detractors face and mock them. Which he did a very good job of, mind you. The Cheney line was priceless, as was the line about Muslims and Jesus. He is a more righteous and a smarter man than the people criticizing him, of that there is no doubt, but I imagine he pissed a lot of people off as well.

And of course, the OP was won over somewhat, but you get what I'm saying.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:51 AM
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9. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:54 AM
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10. It's strange how he rejects traditional European framework, yet holds up his service in the army as
proof that he's not anti-American. No I'm not saying he's anti-American, that's not my point. What I am saying is that for someone who seems to actively reject conventional wisdom it's strange that he touts military experience as proof of patriotism.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:57 AM
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13. But he juxtaposed that with uber-patriot Cheney,
Sound bite of the day (and I know how much the Reverend hates sound bites), and I'm glad someone finally had the balls to say it.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:14 AM
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23. Definitely a high point.
And I thank dbaker for the thread.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:05 AM
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15. just because.....
he is explaining the differences between black culture and white culture.....
does not mean he is rejecting one...or saying one is better....just different.
It does not make him racist...

Pointing out the very obvious differences between male and female does not make one sexist either....

Differences are just that......differences....not good, bad, right, or wrong.
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Metric System Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:09 AM
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16. So why did he say "Hillary ain't never been called a n***er"? No, but she's been called b***h and
c***t. That sounded to me like he was saying that Hillary's life experience was not only different from Obama's, but it was also better.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:04 AM
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18. You know, I still don't like those comments
Specifically, "Hillary ain't never been called a n****r" and "GDA." But this morning's speech about reconciliation was good, and from an objective AND theological perspective, he was right on the money.

I thought some of the questions asked of him after the speech were horseshit, and frankly I was a little afriad that's where he'd go off again. But he handled them well and with some pointed humor. Particularly the one about "Obama is a lousy church member if he never heard those sermons ...," Wright's reply was priceless!

I'm sure a lot of Obama supporters have me on Ignore, so they'll miss hearing me actually PRAISE Rev. Wright.

I don't know if this will ultimately defuse the "Wright issue," but if anyone was paying attention, he did a great job today.

Bake
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:13 AM
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22. Defending your people is a world wide phenomenon, it's not European. n/t
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 11:13 AM by sfexpat2000
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:56 AM
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11. Me too!
He was GREAT!

:kick:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:17 AM
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17. missed it but it is interesting how many Clinton supporters echoed similar thoughts
about his speech at the Detroit NAACP last night
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:07 AM
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19. Let me add that the speech this morning is a FAR better way to handle the controversy
Than the bullshit thread about how Wright ought to sue somebody ...

Bake
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:08 AM
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20. ** Video of the PRESS CLUB will be here in 30 mins (uppin' it to YouTube now) ***
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 11:10 AM by quantass
For those who missed it. I will make a new thread to let everyone know.

Stay Tuned...
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:09 AM
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21. They (the media) really mischaracterized him.
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