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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:06 AM
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Media pumping spin against Rev Wright but SILENT about Douglas Coe. WHY?
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 10:12 AM by blm
Rev Wright is being targeted by all those who are trying to stop Obama at all cost, especially the powerful elite in DC.

The same powerful elite who have joined The Fellowship and convene regularly with Douglas Coe do NOT want their positions of power in our government usurped by any true Democrat who believes in open government and holding the corrupt accountable.

Has anyone heard ANY MAINSTREAM MEDIA doing segments and features on Douglas Coe and the Fellowship who have their grip on official DC for decades?

Anything other than puff pieces on Opus Dei Catholics who dominate the Supreme Court and who are also aligned with The Fellowship?

The mainstream media stays SILENT on those theologies that ACTUALLY HAVE the GREATEST influence on what happens in the halls of government EVERY DAY.

Do Clinton supporters REALLY want to position themselves WITH the conservative theologies of ThE Fellowship and Opus Dei while you position yourselves AGAINST the progressive black churches?

Because BOTTOM LINE, that is EXACTLY what you are doing. Whether you realize it or not.
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keep_it_real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:11 AM
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1. Yep, the book What's the Matter With Kansas goes into that a little
Politicians, The Fellowship (that likes Hitlers organizing ability) and Opus Dei.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:13 AM
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2. DU used to be AGAINST the influence of those organizations, and now they EMBRACE the to protect HRC
and an ALREADY FAILED candidacy.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:33 AM
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11. It's the same everywhere, blm.
When I step back and look at how the landscape has changed and what people are willing to believe and who they're willing to listen to, it makes me wonder why in the world we even bothered fighting Bush for the past eight years.

I read forums that I've belonged to for years and I'm seeing people I thought I knew mouthing RW talking points as if they made a scintilla of sense.

For a bunch of (supposedly) smart people, we are too easily manipulated. That scares the hell out of me.

- as
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:40 AM
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14. If you asked ANY Dem forum 2yrs ago about this, they'd have no problem being truthful
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 11:45 AM by blm
now some of these folks will call GHWBush a statesman just to justify Clintons' embrace of that evil clan.

Thanks for staying steady stranger....

btw....this thread should be an eyeopener to those who want to brush off the concern about the Clintons' being mere delusion. They never seem to have any substantive replies, just personal smears, in their arsenal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5670559
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:14 AM
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3. Because the Obama campaign refuses to use that as a wedge.
But I wouldn't be upset at all if that story finally made it to MSM.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:15 AM
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4. "Has anyone heard ANY MAINSTREAM MEDIA doing segments and features on Douglas Coe?"
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 10:16 AM by ErinBerin84
Andrea Mitchell once had a writer on her show who had written an article about Hillary Clinton and "The Fellowship". Andrea Mitchell's only contribution was something like that "So, what you are saying is..Hillary Clinton's prayer group is clearly more...(dramatic pause)'right wing' than she would have us believe."

Someone on the Huffington Post posted the YouTube of this exchange, but it was gone within an hour. Mitchell can't be having her DC privileges revoked.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 AM
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7. Exactly - any hint at a news story about Fellowship gets short-circuited QUICKLY.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:15 AM
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5. who are these people?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:28 AM
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9. Yet we see no media uproar over this...why? Because they won't frame the subject
with the fearful undertones directed at the electorate the way they frame, and even LIE about, the views of Wright.
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wowimthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:16 AM
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6. They are pumping Wright because MSM is racist in nature. It's natural to denegrate or even...
undermine black voters by not talking much about all of the voting irregularities in black precincts.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:46 AM
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8. And what of Douglas Coe's relationship with media owners and their political allies?
I would say Coe influences the fascist agenda that corporate media, the Bushes and the Clintons have been aligned with for decades.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:33 AM
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10. What about the comments made by McCain's 'spiritual' advisors?
Top 10 Outrageous Quotes from McCain's Spiritual Advisers:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3217344&mesg_id=3217344

The media is conspiratorially absent and complacent
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:35 AM
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12. i think its a scarey powerful group
and many people from both sides are in league with it and want to protect it.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:50 PM
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47. Too many people from the Fellowship have infiltrated both sides.
They are equal opportunity theofacists.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:58 AM
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50. exactly - and now they have tapped a faux left female fascist to lead another march to accept
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 09:58 AM by blm
that fascist path.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:22 AM
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51. Moon visited the Fellowship on his first trip to the US in the 60's
escorted by members of the KCIA. This outfit has a long and sordid history.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:37 AM
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13. Got a video of Coe in a"God damn America" rant?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:47 AM
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15. Which spiritual leader influenced this nation for the WORSE in REALITY, oasis?
Care to give an HONEST ANSWER?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:57 AM
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16. Answer my question and then you have the answer to your OP.
As to your second question, I can't give an honest answer because I've no way of measuring influence on a large scale.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:59 AM
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18. Get real. Then you have NOT even CARED to learn anything about Coe.
You would side with fucking Dominionists at this point just to pretend that Wright is worse for the country.

Check your integrity, o, before it's too late.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:17 PM
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31. I'm not taking sides. America has heard ZERO about Coes. That's not my fault.
Calm down BLM, you're getting yourself into an uproar about something which you have no control. The will of the MSM be done.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:27 PM
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32. I'm furious that Democrats would side with Dominionists to target a black minister
with a long history of supporting Democrats.

You think Coe let Hillary into their privileged quarters to open himself up to the views of progressive Christians?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:38 PM
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36. I'm not holding Hillary's association against her just as I don't hold Obama's
association woith Wright against him. The MSM heve their agenda which we can do nothing about.

If they help Hillary, all the better. But please don't hold me to account.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:41 PM
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37. If you propogate the RW spin against Wright, then EXPECT to be held accountable at ANY
Dem forum where many of us have railed against it for the past decade - and so have you. Hold YOURSELF to account, fer chrissakes, o.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:34 PM
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43. If CNN or MSNBC pick up my posts, I'll be more than flattered. In the
meantime I'll be promoting threads that may influence super delegates somewhere down the line.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:37 PM
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44. BTW, mutually hated Joe Klein is on CNN right now trashing Wright.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:02 PM
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21. The money changers in the whorish M$M didn't add the next line: "Because She (USA) thinks she's GOD"
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:04 PM by ShortnFiery
Now, how does it play? ... If you are a Christian, you place GOD first. A Nation who thinks that IT IS GOD (the government not the people) is IMPERIAL. Remember what happened to the Romans?

But hey, don't let it stop you from INAPPROPRIATELY spewing Rev. Wright's "God Damn" out of context in order to live up to the CHEATER-BABY candidate and her morally bankrupt surrogates. :eyes:


CONTEXT IS EVERYTHING!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:32 PM
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34. Am I to blame for the Obama/Wright fallout? I assure you, CNN/MSNBC
do not have my permission to publish my posts on the airwaves.;-)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:58 AM
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17. Coe is not black, is he?
and there is probably little if ANY video of him
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:01 PM
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19. White fascists are given the ROOM to have their secrecy and privilege in EVERYTHING, including
religious views.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:42 PM
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45. And that's the reason right there.
Anybody who denies the media is using Wright as a racial boogeyman is either an idiot or willfully dishonest.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:01 PM
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48. Correct. It makes for much better TeeVee
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 02:01 PM by Kool Kitty
to run the ooh-sooo-scary black preacher. Idiots all, the MSM.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:02 PM
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20. The Clintons have already shown how aligned they are with the right.
Why should Clinton's supporters care? They apparently like it. They think it's fine & dandy.

They do. not. care.


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:03 PM
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22. Because Coe isn't Clinton's pastor
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:10 PM
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26. Convening with Coe once-a-week IN DC with other political leaders while
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:10 PM by blm
Wright was in Chicago speaking to his congregation....and Coe is of no concern to you or this country?
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:16 PM
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29. Clinton, evidently, doesn't have a pastor...
or a need for one.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:03 PM
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23. Did Coe hold a press conference, is Coe on a book tour
is Coe stirring the ferment? NO.

Neither Clinton nor McCain's liability people are sticking their faces
out in the media.

Both have liabilities, but their liabilities aren't trying to throw them under a bus.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:08 PM
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25. Wright didn't either, UNTIL media made him a focus for the last 2 months.
he has a right to defend himself.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:11 PM
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27. We all sat "silently" while the M$M smeared The Black Church. Yes, us "white folk" also sensed that
they were abusing their power and volitionally smearing an entire section of American Christian Humanity. But WHO in the Money Changer MEDIA stood up ... what lily white Mega-Star Pundit?!? Nada. :grr:

Thank GOD for brave human beings such as Rev. Wright. Believe it or not MLK was HATED as much as you seemingly *hate him* ... you really should search your conscious to determine the true *core* of all that resentment?

All I see is a passionate Minister preaching the Social Gospel. How I ache in my little liberal Catholic Soul for Priests who could be so moved to speak truth to power.

Moral courage is sorely lacking in MANY faiths ... that's precisely why "The poor get poorer and the rich get richer."

May God continue to bless Rev. Wright :grouphug: ... with regard to social justice, the lion's share of what he preaches is A OK by me. :thumbsup:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:16 PM
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39. its well worth losing the election, isn't it?
like race issues will be solved in one year or by one person - Pastor Wright.

Unfortunately, the one person who could advance and heal the race issue - Obama -
is being shot down by a supposed friend and pastor.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:18 PM
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40. It's the RW lie machine kicking in to protect BushInc. And Clinton and McCain can both be
counted on to protect BushInc, too. So taking Obama down even as the corpmedia KNOWS he is the nominee now, is the goal.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:21 PM
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41. Pastor Wright gives the media something to Pastorbait to
the media wouldn't have something to pastorbate with if not for the pastor.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:27 PM
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42. They've BEEN focused on attacking Wright for two months. YOU prefer NOT defend
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 01:28 PM by blm
himself after these two months, because YOU wouldn't defend YOURSELF from that type of assault from the media?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:04 PM
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24. Because DAMMIT they want their scary black man, and they mean to have him!
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:05 PM by BlooInBloo
Not some educated cantata singing, multiple language speaking, psychological study reading, latin translating former military medical attendant to LBJ.



EDIT: Typo: 1, Bloo: 0.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:14 PM
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28. Because they're Nazis.
Right-wing authoritarian, social dominance oriented NAZIS.

There. I godwined the thread. Bite me.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:16 PM
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30. The difference between Rev. Wright and the Fellowship
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:18 PM by formercia
The Fellowship is a Dominionist organization. They want to dictate the law according to their interpretation of the Scriptures and end the separation of Church and State. Rev. Wright wants equality for everyone.

It's like night and day.

Theo-fascist Autocracy vs Democracy.

America according to Moon or America according to the Constitution.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:30 PM
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33. Too rational, won't be heard by the people who need it most. They'll need a "link". Still, K & R nt
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:44 PM
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38. here's a starter - but this segment was never FURTHERED by corpmedia - it's more
as if it was addressed only to cover some butts, not to open up a widespread discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVrQkunIZXo
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:38 PM
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35. Clinton supporters have very short memories. Memory Lane.
link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5717714&mesg_id=5717714

What's waiting for her. And for all of us if she were to get the nomination.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:48 PM
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46. BINGO
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 02:21 PM
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49. Funny I don't hear anything.
But Obama, Rev Wright - speech, CSPAN, Olbermann. The Daily Show, and Colbert.

You have to be kidding me though that they are distorting the recent Wright appearance? This whole board was lit up last night with a blissful experience of clarity over the Reverend Wright speech. What has the media become? Are they monsters for trying to tear up the Reverend Wright? This saddens me.
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