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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:06 AM
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The Rude Pundit: The Lewinsky Nuke, or How Bill Is Hillary Clinton's Reverend Wright
Let us say, and why not, that surrogates for the Obama campaign, aided and abetted by the RNC and the media, decided to go after Hillary Clinton for the Monica Lewinsky scandal (and, to be clear, no matter what you think about impeachment, the President of the United States getting blown by a White House intern qualifies as a scandal). Let us say, and, indeed, why not, that in order to gain some ground lost by the interminable focus on Jeremiah Wright, Obama's surrogates decided it was time for a little refresher course in the shit people put up with in their personal lives.

It would be so fuckin' easy to take down Hillary Clinton, and the RNC knows it. Here's the one-two-three of how, if the Obama campaign truly wanted to go negative, the Clinton campaign would be over. Follow the bouncing ball of a logical progression to the nuke:

Where did the liaisons between Lewinsky and Bill Clinton take place? In the White House, especially in the Oval Office or a study off the Oval Office. So where the President of the United States holds meetings with the leaders of the world, as well as his cabinet and members of Congress, as well as photo ops with we the ordinary people, in a space that is paid for by the taxes of the people of the United States, Bill Clinton placed his cock in the mouth of an intern for no better reason than he was bored and her mouth was willing.

What exactly are the problems with Reverend Wright as they relate to Barack Obama? Wright said some not so nice things about the United States and he spouted a couple of conspiracy theories. At church. Of what is Obama guilty in his connection to Wright? Well, as Hillary Clinton and the North Carolina Republican Party have asserted, he didn't get up and leave and break from his church of 20 years.

You see where this is going? You getting that acidy feeling in your stomach? Well, gird yer loins, motherfuckers, 'cause it's time for this ride to go into the dark parts.

Applying the standard set for Obama in his relationship to Jeremiah Wright to the marriage of Hillary and Bill Clinton, do we not have every right to ask why Clinton did not divorce her husband. Oh, sure, you can say, "Well, that's crazy, it's a personal decision, it's a family thing," but Hillary Clinton chose to stay married to a man who not only repeatedly betrayed her, which we could interpret in lots of ways about her character, both good and bad, but to a man who spewed adulterous semen at the White House on America's dime. No, Bill Clinton might not have said, "God damn America," but he sure believed that American could pay for a place for him get his dick sucked. So it ain't that far a leap to say that he betrayed America, too.

You may ask, "What about Chelsea?" Chelsea was eighteen around this time. She was heading off to college. And the marriage was 22 or 23 years long at the point of intern penis insertion.

So there's your ad, your talking point, your goddamned spin: Hillary Clinton chose to stay married to a man who defiled the Oval Office and insulted America by trying to convince us that it wasn't sex. Why didn't she "get up and leave"?

And we could add: And this man is now her main campaign representative and will be returned to the White House he defiled, filled with interns. (Cue the ominous music and the slow-mo of Bill wagging his finger at us, like we did something wrong. Oh, fuck, that's the final insult, no?)

How do you feel after reading that? Feel like throwing up? Wonder why the fuck any of this shit really matters when it takes fifty bucks to fill your gas tank? Feel spattered with Scaife jism? Got Rove jam in your eye?

Is the idea for the ad just ludicrous? Fuckin' A, it is. But, really, is it qualitatively less ludicrous than the continued uproar over Reverend Wright? Barack Obama didn't say, "God damn America." His pastor did. That one time, as far as we know. Frankly, it's elitist and snobby to think that someone can just walk away from his church because the pastor said a couple of "bad" things. And, frankly, it seems that if your husband is constantly fucking around, it's a bit more of a leap to say that it's cool you stayed with him.

And let's use another Clinton talking point against her: do you think the GOP ain't gonna bring up Lewinsky if she's the nominee? You think that the threat of Bill wild and free in the White House ain't gonna be an issue?

So how about this: why doesn't Hillary Clinton condemn the uproar over Wright for the good of her party and her country instead of fanning the flames? Or would that seem too presidential?

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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:10 AM
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1. Please do it. I want so bad for them to
blame Hillary and Chelsea for what Bill did. God please let them. In fact I INSIST they go after Hillary and Chelsea.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:13 AM
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6. Why did you post before you read what pundit said? Or is it a comprehension problem with you?
Neither of your assertions was made by the rude one. Try again.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:45 AM
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:06 PM
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14. Good grief.
Nothing substantive to add, so you attack me. Well done. This is exactly why I won't support Hillary in this campaign... you learned well.

Enjoy your day.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:46 AM
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11. you need to reread this. they have before and it stuck. what makes
you think that the country will repudiate this if it happened again? Consider that Hillary is being rejected by the voters in the primary, don't expect them to tolerate another round of shit storms over this because the pundit is right. You are probably kidding yourself if you think people will rally to
hillary and her family over this. Never again.
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:48 AM
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12. Of course not this will make Hillary and Chelsea look so evil.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 11:48 AM by LibFromWV
I really want them to do it. Please you are an Obama supporter? Send email and beg them to do it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:22 PM
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19. "if the Obama campaign truly wanted to go negative"
The Obama campaign will not be getting down in the shit with your girl.

Dream on. She's lowered herself, and now you're desperately hoping he will, too.

Good luck with that.


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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:05 AM
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22. Well "redqueen" i don't have a "girl" , however i support a "WOMAN" for president.
Now that we understand where each is coming from, It is my hope that Obama will go nuclear. He will have to and i can't wait for the fun.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:34 AM
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23. Bill Clinton called Hillary a "girl."
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:21 AM
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25. She uses the damn word herself.
I'm about sick and tired of this bullshit poutrage act.

At least I *HOPE* it's an act.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:28 AM
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26. Yep -- "I'm your girl."
Not to mention that all of her campaign signs say "Hillary" instead of "Clinton." She kind of brings this on herself.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:33 AM
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27. I think the "outrage" over "girl" is idiotic.
There are issues (FGM) and then there is stupidity.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:17 AM
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24. LMMFAO. Poutrage much?


Click the properties, and see where that's from.

:eyes:

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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:36 AM
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29. While i cannot control others, i was informed and
enlightened long ago that women are not girls, dames, chicks, bitches, cunts, or anything other than women. So i don't know maybe i just show more respect. But i see that unity, hope and change is still kicking.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:40 AM
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30. Whatever.
Your "girl" called herself a "girl" and you just now went all poutragey on me over it.

I "hope" most of her supporters are better informed about what "feminist" issues they should get all outragey over.

That (obviously, now) does not include using the word "girl" to describe her... nor does it include using her first name to refer to her campaign (we've seen her supporters do the Poutrage over that one, too... ugh).
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:20 PM
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16. The poster didn't read it the first time, why would she bother?
She has determined in her own mind that the rude pundit determines that Chelsea is to blame for her fathers actions, and that Hillary too is responsible for Bill's lack of self-control despite nothing of the sort asserted or even remotely suggested in the OP.

Some Hillary supporters.... the fact that no one understands them doesn't make them artists.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:10 AM
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2. One thing that really gets on my nerves lately is Clinton's wagging finger....
there's something so ungodly arrogant about it.
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rusty_parts2001 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:10 AM
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3. Move on, nothing to see here.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:11 AM
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4. The difference being Rev. Wright is honest
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:12 AM
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5. Amen. He's rude, but he's right. nt
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:31 PM
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21. Actually, I don't find him to be all that rude...
The truth is never as rude as a deliberate, calculated lie. Not ever.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:16 AM
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7. Rec'd
:kick:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:17 AM
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8. let's talk about Hillary's reactions to the bimbos- she attacked them vicously.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:23 AM
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9. If she gets the nomination I'm counting on a blue dress sale at TJ Maxx.
We ain't seen nuthin' yet. Right now, for the moment, they are supporting Hillary.


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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:51 AM
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13. I'd of dumped his sorry ass after the second one. there is a rumor
that the new york papers have stories about several women that he's dallying with since leaving office that they are going to drag out. I groan merely thinking about it. Consider the country's reaction.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:15 PM
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15. The idea that she's already been "vetted" and won't have as many issues to
deal with in the GE is bogus. She's a candidate with numerous ticking time bomb flaws that the GOP can't wait to exploit after Obama passes on the opportunity.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:22 PM
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18. Look at her track record
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:22 PM by Ichingcarpenter
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:21 PM
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17. Hah.
Nice one.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:23 PM
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20. That's the Republican campaign against Clinton.
They don't have to mention Hillary at all, just Bill and his long list of lady friends. Remember the Purple Heart bandaids? This time it would be cigars with a picture of Bill, Monica and the White House on them.
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jonestonesusa Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:02 AM
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28. A lot of silence on this one from Clinton supporters. Why?
HRC supporters want to spend months swiftboating Rev. Wright, a Marine veteran and medic at Bethesda, a loyal Democrat and preacher for a gay-friendly Christian church, just to get at Obama, even if it alienates all supporters of the front runner for the party nomination.

But they do not even want to discuss an incisive and I think, spot-on repudiation of the tactics used against Wright and Obama and a reminder that HRC and Bill Clinton have their own skeletons, to say the least.

Why the lack of discussion?
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