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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:43 AM
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Hillary Strangelove (the story the media is ignoring)
*** Hillary Strangelove? Because of Jeremiah Wright remaining in the news, not that much attention has been paid to Clinton’s recent comments regarding Iran and the Middle East. But Sunday’s Boston Globe weighed in -- harshly. It dubbed her “Hillary Strangelove,” because of her umbrella Iran-Mideast ally retaliation policy. And the paper called that "Rambo rhetoric" that "plays into the hands of Iranian hard-liners who want to plow ahead with efforts to attain a nuclear weapons capability." More: “(T)here are some red lines that should never be crossed,” it said. “Clinton did so Tuesday morning, the day of the Pennsylvania primary, when she told ABC's ‘Good Morning America’ that, if she were president, she would ‘totally obliterate’ Iran if Iran attacked Israel. This foolish and dangerous threat was muted in domestic media coverage. But it reverberated in headlines around the world.”

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Boston Globe blasts Hillary for saying she'd nuke Iran; says she shouldn't be answering the phone at 3am

by John Aravosis (DC) · 4/27/2008 02:31:00 PM ET · Link

It's a story that the American media totally ignored. Our wonderful "independent" reporters collectively decided last week that it simply wasn't news that Hillary revealed she'd be nuking Iran if they attacked Israel, and that it wasn't news that she'd like to extend the US nuclear umbrella to Israel's neighbors. That means we'd be nuking Iran if they attacked Jordan, Egypt, maybe even Saudi Arabia. Show of hands: How many Americans are willing to start a nuclear war for the Saudis?

Well, it seems even the Saudis aren't too keen on the idea. They criticized Hillary this week, we learn via a Boston Globe editorial entitled "Hillary Strangelove" (the Globe is one of the few American papers to even write about this issue). They said she was as stupid as Bush:

The Saudi paper called Clinton's nuclear threat "the foreign politics of the madhouse," saying, "it demonstrates the same doltish ignorance that has distinguished Bush's foreign relations."

A British Foreign Ministry official wasn't very pleased either:

"While it is reasonable to warn Iran of the consequences of it continuing to develop nuclear weapons and what those real consequences bring to its security, it is probably not prudent in today's world to threaten to obliterate any other country and in many cases civilians resident in such a country."

The Globe says that Hillary has done real damage to the reform effort in Iran:

While Clinton has hammered Obama for supporting military strikes in Pakistan, her comments on Iran are much more far-reaching. She seems not to realize that she undermined Iranian reformists and pragmatists. The Iranian people have been more favorable to America than any other in the Gulf region or the Middle East.

A presidential candidate who lightly commits to obliterating Iran - and, presumably, all the children, parents, and grandparents in Iran - should not be answering the White House phone at any time of day or night.



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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:46 AM
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1. Ah yes, another right-wing rag we now seek advice from...
...know thy paper before you post.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:49 AM
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2. What the hell are you talking about? Know your facts before you spew nonsense. n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:01 PM
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8. Well, doncha know, ANYBODY who says ANYTHING negative
about Hillary has to be a RWer. List includes Obama, various Kennedys, the Nation...

Nice to the the Boston Globe join those ranks.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:14 PM
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13. Yeah. n/t
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:53 AM
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3. But she made the comments, and they stink.
So what 'liberal rag' is talking about them?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:58 AM
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6. Hillary made her comment has not been well-received:
Harper's: Hillary: We’ll “totally obliterate” Iran

Maybe you'd like to accuse Harper's of being RW?



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frickaline Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:59 AM
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7. HAHAHA wow that's funny *wipes tear*
As a Boston resident, I just can't help but laugh at that uneducated comment. Never in my life have I heard "Boston Globe" with "Right Wing"! Thanks for the laugh!
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:07 PM
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10. Ahh - so we should trust "The Boston Herald" instead? ;-) (NT)
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:53 AM
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4. Great post ProSense.
K & R :thumbsup:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:03 PM
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11. Thanks. n/t
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 11:55 AM
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5. Did anyone see the Tim Russert show this weekend?
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 12:04 PM by ErinBerin84
Tim Russert brought it up and said that he was surprised that the "media" (as if this media is a separate entity from Tim) did not make a bigger deal out of it the next day. Howard Fineman and Mike Allen basically said that it was disturbing, but couldn't be taken seriously because it was such a naked attempt to appeal to voters at the last minute. Haha, ok...so she doesn't mean what she says. That makes me feel a lot better.

Eleanor Clift bugs me, but is this Newsweek article different from the recent NY times article?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/134012

Kind of comments on the sudden appeal of Hillary Clinton to conservatives. Tony Blankley (former Newt spokeman, was the first to dub Hillary "evita" in the press in early 90s)said that she was "almost beginning to appeal to him ", and that he was won over by her whiskey shots. She also says that it is more feasible to her now that Clinton could get the nomination.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 12:03 PM
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9. And today
Bill Kristol is carrying Hillary's water, challenging Obama's patriotism.



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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 01:06 PM
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12. k & r- exacty why the Iraq debacle could be repeated...
our brain-dead media just doesn't REPORT THE NEWS anymore.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:19 PM
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14. This post I did today talks about HRC comments in 2007 about Iran & Bilderberg Group -
These comments and articles go right along with the Iran comment Hillary made - it has been one of her themes for awhile now.

DU post link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5720003&mesg_id=5720841
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:23 PM
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15. Send this information to
Keith Olbermann:

Keith Olbermann -- MSNBC
Title: Host
Department: Countdown with Keith Olbermann
E-mail: countdown@msnbc.com
Phone: (201) 583-5000
Fax: (201) 583-5584
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 05:41 PM
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16. HRC should just join the Rep party and get it over with.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 06:15 PM
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17.  i see the globe is`t any friend of hillary or barack
i guess that is the way it should be..
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