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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:36 PM Original message |
Link to TRANSCRIPT of Wright's NAACP speech. (And what I find SO WRONG with it.) |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. In all sincerity, |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You must have missed his speech at the press club this morning. |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. THAT'S A DAMN LIE. thx |
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SeaLyons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:48 PM Original message |
no it's not... |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
75. Exactly... a FLIP comment.... so don't mischaracterize it.... |
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Innocent Smith (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Yep |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Bwah! |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Robot...He was making a Joke! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. dirrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. Right ~watch the SPINNERS |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think you're largely correct in your analysis |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. there are biologically inate differences between different gene pools |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
59. "Nature vs. Nurture" has been argued interminably. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. It's not nature OR nurture, it's the nurture OF nature (m) |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. I don't see anything in what he says to suggest these are biologically innate. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. This is a controversial SCIENTIFIC subject, |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
81. where does he talk about biology? |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. Let's not forget that Wright is NOT a Politician..he is not running for office and so analysing his |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. But didn't he say he'd be advising Obama? nt |
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EmilyAnne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. All kinds of people can give unsolicited advice. I don't think he holds any sway over Barack Obama. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. IMO, he's got a lot of sway |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. He advised Bill when it was discovered Monica was sucking his dick! |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. No |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
93. So he did come to help Bill when he decided to come clean about the headers? |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
58. You're an Obama supporter, right? |
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haymakeragain (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
94. Did he show up for that charade or not? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #8 |
51. And this isn't a POLITICAL ISSUE. It is a SCIENTIFIC ISSUE. Why the hell are we |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
10. Any other pastor transcripts to analyze? |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. I'm not trying to blame Obama for this -- I do think, however, |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
74. kick. |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
11. I won't vote for Wright |
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Demit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. LOL! Me neither! Pastor Wright has lost my vote, dammit!! |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
71. I'd vote for Wright before I'd vote for Obama or Clinton... |
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Bicoastal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. If you want to hear what a bigot thinks, try asking "smalll" his opinion of Brooklynites. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
52. He's obviously lost his footing at the edge of the MSM rabbit hole of the day. nt |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. So Now Everything Wright Says and Does will be Under Microscope |
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Innocent Smith (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. That bothers me too |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. Total nut case. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
18. You have misread Wright. You are totalizing and reducing what he said. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Learning with different halves of the brain is GENETIC. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Your brain is also subject to LEARNING, |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. that is not the argument he was making... and they told us what his training was before the speech! |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. looks to me like it's exactly the argument he's making |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Actually, I read this a while back: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. So you still do not know if he has training in any of the fields you listed. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
99. sf, I cited his DEGREES. |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. yes, this is racist crap. he needs to stfu |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. Not racist, and you don't know the subject |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Learning styles can be driven by socialization as well. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Because Wright is saying that |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Race affects how children are socialized. Socialization affects how brains are wired. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
96. OK. |
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BalancedGoat (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. I didn't take it that way. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #30 |
66. No, it is not genetic and Wright never says that it is. |
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NatBurner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
19. different, not deficient. |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
22. He isn't talking |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. But why does he talk about "Africans" as well as African-Americans? |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It just doesn't make sense |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
91. I think Reverend Wright is... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. You are assuming that. No way did he make it clear that's what |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
86. It seems obvious to me they are reading |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
25. Is he talking about Africans or Celts? |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
26. I just read the whole thing |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. whew. excellent comment. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. discussion of the issues does not bode well for the advancement of |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. I will try to explain |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. I blame it on Pluto and the Galactic Center. It's a good thing. |
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JoFerret (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
92. I don't see it as a matter of blame |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
27. Talk about negative stereotypes? geesh |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. That's the problem when people do not understand |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. But is that true? |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
88. You know, the point is that |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. We have the same genes, don't we? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
84. I was taught |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
35. You're wrong. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #35 |
72. "Different is not deficient", is that kind of like "separate but equal"? |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. how can you be on the left and argue this???? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #85 |
100. Maybe you should pass-up on the next hit and re-read this |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. just to let you know |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-29-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. That's okay. You still don't get it. |
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Texas Hill Country (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
38. his assertions have been proven wrong by neuroscience and FMRI studies galore! |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
68. Where? Have any cites at all? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #38 |
76. Even if you are right.... WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH OBAMA? |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
90. You are still trying to equate his statements |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
41. I have to agree with you |
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ej510 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I don't agree with that statement but I do agree that we are all equal but different. |
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fed_up_mother (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Anything is possible, but that doesn't mean you say it in front of the National |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. which statement don't you agree with? n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Actually, it's not possible-- unless the gov't created time travel first |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
89. well |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
87. Kennedy said it best |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #41 |
80. I don't think you've understood what he was getting at, at all. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
56. Please show me where he said there was a GENETIC difference. |
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Redbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
63. His very last sentence from the quote: |
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smalll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. "Because they come from a RIGHT-BRAINED creative oral culture..." |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Ok..... so you disagree with Wright's views on differences between people..... |
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BalancedGoat (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 03:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. I took that to mean the opposite. |
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barack the house (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
65. Well it can be true for both races but I think he has a point. There is more a regimental approach.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
83. There are big differences from culture to culture in how kids are handled. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
69. thanks |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
95. Well, that's a convincing argument for No Child Left Behind |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
97. So what? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-28-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
98. Is he running for office? Who cares what he says? Why is this in GDP? |
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