I think Petraeus has done a good tactical job in Iraq.

[IndianaJones]

Don't you?

[GaYellowDawg]

1. This should be interesting.

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[marmar]

2. Butter in the middle and on top, and a large Mountain Dew for me.....

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Forkboy]

8. He's trying, rather obviously, to bait Obama supporters after Obama's comments about the General.

One of the most predictable posters on DU.

[marmar]

10. Thanks for the insight, Forkboy.....

I rarely visit GD-P, and everytime I do, I wish I hadn't.

[Forkboy]

13. It's why he doesn't include anything of substance in his post. He's trolling, as always.

[mac2]

14. Sorry I missed what Obama said about the general.

[Forkboy]

18. Same thing the OP said, only without trying to bait people.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2741128120080427

[mac2]

23. I just read it. Seems to me...

"Yes," Obama told "Fox News Sunday" when asked if, as a senator from Illinois, he would approve Petraeus. "I think Petraeus has done a good tactical job in Iraq."

Obama has said he would start pulling out more troops as soon as he becames president." Rueters.

the first day of power Obama bring us back our rights and Constitution and then start withdraw from Iraq the next day.

Now I'm really confused. Obama wants to withdraw troops but at the same time keep a "military police force" there. Tacitical job or more destruction and killing? Whose safe with this general's leadership?

Yes..BeTrayUS is doing what Bush wants...unending war for profit. He's answerable to the American people and our laws (Constitution and treaties).

Obama's statements about Iraq swing back and forth.

[Forkboy]

27. I don't like either of the choices left, and this stuff is part of the reason why.

[John Q. Citizen]

36. Who would you recomend for the job for the command? Let's see your list.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

3. Yes, he did what Bush ordered

So that's a good tactical job.

Now, if we get a president that's worth a damn, Petraeus can do another good job and extract our troops the hell out of there.

:hi:

edit to add: can I get some salt on my popcorn?
:popcorn:

[JuniperLea]

6. Well said... eom

[mac2]

11. So did the Nazi generals do what Hitler ordered. They are

still answerable to the people and our laws.

You did a good job BeTrayUS.

[whistle]

4. Tactics as in what, directing soldiers to drive armored Hummers through neighborhoods

...at high speeds shooting at anything that moves? :wtf:

[Forkboy]

5. Do you ever post anything but flamebait?

[Moochy]

40. We know the answer to that one.

[John Q. Citizen]

7. I couldn't begin to asses the tactical job sitting here in the states. I don't have the information

necessary to make an informed judgment on tactics.

I do think the strategy is all fucked up, and has been fucked up from when our Senators voted to give bush the power to go to war.

The IWR was a complete strategic disaster.

[mac2]

28. No it's all secret.

[John Q. Citizen]

34. As far as I know they don't publicise what neighborhood the occupiers are going to next, and

if their Humvees have been serviced recently.

Occupation isn't without risks.

I think Hillary thought it would be a cake walk, a major strategic blunder.

Just out of curiosity, who would you prefer got the job if not Petraeus. Do you have a short list of better candidates that you would recommend?

[mac2]

38. No everything is secret even in "war and occupation".

I did think the war was won and over.

[msanthrope]

9. An excellent job, really. The Green Zone, the death count,

the daily bombings, the lack of electricity and water, the supply problems....

I'm not surprised that Obama said this...after all, he needs to distinguish himself from Senator Clinton....


Senator Clinton: Petraeus' Report requires "willing suspension of disbelief."
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=5474

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. His tactical asskissing of Bush has earned him a promotion.

[mac2]

15. All the others were forced to retire.

[ShortnFiery]

16. The late Col. Ted Westhusing, his family, friends and many others would DISAGREE!

http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=2440

At about 1:15 in the afternoon, Westhusing was discovered in trailer 602A. Near his body was a note addressed to his commanders, Petraeus and Fil. Written in large, block letters, it read:

Thanks for telling me it was a good day until I briefed you. —You are only interested in your career and provide no support to your staff—no msn support and you don’t care. I cannot support a msn that leads to corruption, human right abuses and liars. I am sullied—no more. I didn’t volunteer to support corrupt, money grubbing contractors, nor work for commanders only interested in themselves. I came to serve honorably and feel dishonored. I trust no Iraqi. I cannot live this way. All my love to my family, my wife and my precious children. I love you and trust you only. Death before being dishonored any more. Trust is essential—I don’t know who trust anymore. Why serve when you cannot accomplish the mission, when you no longer believe in the cause, when your every effort and breath to succeed meets with lies, lack of support, and selfishness? No more. Reevaluate yourselves, cdrs . You are not what you think you are and I know it.

COL Ted Westhusing

Life needs trust. Trust is no more for me here in Iraq.

[tabasco]

17. Why do you think that?

What tactical successes has Petraeus achieved that will enable the US to depart Iraq?

The Basra operation, in which 1000 Iraqi troops defected?

Personally, I see more of the same in Iraq and no success, tactical or otherwise, in Iraq.

It is an endless, bloody quagmire. Worse for the Iraqis than for US troops.

We are not achieving law and order. We are achieving nothing.

But that was the intent. Let the US Army sit on top of Iraqi oil as long as possible.

So tell me, what tactical successes are you talking about?

[IndianaJones]

19. given the experience that he has accumulated over the last several years..

it would be stupid to ignore what he has to say.

[tabasco]

20. So he's done a good job because he says so?

Is that really what you mean?

General Custer had a lot of experience too.

Experience doesn't mean squat if you are just a corrupt coward who says what you're boss wants you to say.

[Forkboy]

21. He's baiting you Tabasco. He's quoting Obama and making it look like his own words.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2741128120080427

[tabasco]

24. Then Obama needs to answer my question.

I support Obama but I don't agree with him on every point.

I don't agree that Petraeus has done a good tactical job in Iraq.

OTOH, I don't think Obama has cause to oppose the CINCs selection. Unfortunately, the President has a lot of power, and when we get a dud like Bush, we get the entire government packed with duds.

If we are ever able to oust the corrupt Bush mafia, we will need to clean out all the lackeys like Petraeus.

I wish Obama had just said he did not have cause to oppose Petraeus' appointment to CENTCOM. I don't agree that Petraeus has done a good job.

[IndianaJones]

25. check transcript here...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352785,00.html

[Forkboy]

26. I don't think he has either. And had the OP just presented it that way instead of playing gotcha...

...he might actually be someone worth taking seriously. As it stands though, he's a master baiter.

[tabasco]

22. Heckuva job, Pettie!

You did what you were chosen to do and that is be loyal and kiss ass!

[MattNC]

29. Yes

but the situation over there is still a giant mess that could return us to '06 levels of violence pending certain developments.

[ej510]

30. They all say it and I believe it is complete horse shit.

[stray cat]

31. Yes - unlike our incompetent civilian leaders who didn't bother planning for anything

[leftofcool]

32. Obama thinks so

He said he would rely on Petraeus' judgement

[mac2]

37. And that's good enough reason for you?

[spanone]

33. prolonging an unwinable war is not a good tactical job..he's a pollitical tool of bu$h*

[backscatter712]

35. Betray-us has done his job...

Implementing the surge, pushing the media to stop covering the war, and killing countless civilians to keep the country in terrorized occupation.

[Moochy]

39. Suprise Suprise Suprise

[Jed Dilligan]

41. I'm very surprised

not

[tabasco]

42. Damning with faint praise.

Four-stars don't get paid to do tactics.

They are supposed to be the long-term, strategic thinkers.

Saying Betrayus has done a good job tactically is a back handed compliment.

Obama is smarter than I realized!


Do you know the difference between tactics and strategy?