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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:16 PM
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Listen up! Angry White male here......
I am sick and tired of being called a racist for supporting Hillary Clinton. I am also sick and tired of being called a racist for ANY comment I make against ANY African-American if it is construed to not be praise. Uh, it has NOTHING to do with skin color. Period.

This crap is just way out of hand.

What's next, am I a racist because I have a white shirt? Also, my bike is white. My car is green so I guess that is ok.

I will vote for Obama and campaign for him as hard as I can if he is our nominee. Hope Hillary gets it but I will vote for Obama if he gets it.

Angry white male.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:18 PM
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1. Who is calling you a racist? n/t
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:19 PM
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2. deleted
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 03:19 PM by redqueen
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:19 PM
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3. And neither am I a sexist because I don't support Clinton.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:20 PM
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4. Are you referring to a particular post? Where was this said?
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:21 PM
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Who called you a racist because you support Hillary?
:shrug:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:21 PM
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Who's your favorite movie star?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:21 PM
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5. It's nice to get a white male's perspective on things for once.
Long have white male views on issues been ignored.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:22 PM
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9. rofl. nt
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:21 PM
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6. amused non-white male here. would like to thank white people for all the laughs today. nt.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:34 PM
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20. 6. amused non-white male here. would like to thank white people for all the laughs today. nt.


* DITTO !
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:45 PM
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24. Yup, non-white guy here too. This stuff makes me laugh! nt
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:22 PM
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7. Holy Strawman Argument Batman!! nt
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:23 PM
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10. No no, this is great!
It goes *perfectly* with the other thread. A poster feels that a few jerks on a messageboard calling him racist (apparently) for not supporting Obama is akin to what is going on with the Wright thing.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:26 PM
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30. I was going to post that
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:22 PM
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8. I saw an angry white man with a white shirt on a white bike yesterday.
Was that you?
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:24 PM
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11. Who da fuck are you?!!
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:25 PM
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12. There are some in the MSM implying the same thing
It is going to get worse.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:25 PM
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13. Why did somebody call you a racist?
Was it this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=5329473

Wherein you attack a black man for his wealth, and imply institutionalized racism is a thing of his past because of the success of one individual?
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:27 PM
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15. USA: Love It or Leave It!
But if you're going to leave, please fight for our rights before you go.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:24 PM
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29. maybe he would also bash a rich white man for the same thing
Maybe it seems like a case of "all labor leaders are sympathetic to the working class. That's how they avoid belonging to it."

A pastor is typically somebody who stands in front of a crowd and urges them to give their money to this ministry, to help the needy. It's kinda disgusting when they seemed to have helped themselves. 1.6 million would buy 45 of my homes.

That doesn't mean institutionalized racism is a thing of the past, but for somebody to get up and complain about it and also accept money to help fix it, while also taking a very generous cut for himself. Seems like he cares much more about himself than he does about those who are suffering. I have certainly criticized Hagee and Graham and Osteen for the same thing.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:17 PM
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41. Greenwood - I followed this link and boy you sure need some educating
This is love it or leave it crap.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:26 PM
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14. I know right! We white folks are sooooo downtrodden by those damn racist black folks!
We really shouldn't have to put up with it - it's sooooo not right!

:rofl:
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:28 PM
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17. No one called him a racist. it sounds like you have some sort
of guilt thing going on. Lol!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:30 PM
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18. But they're THINKING it! I just KNOW it!
:rofl:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:28 PM
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16. Why is it Obama getting this SPECIAL TREATMENT
in the media? Why is it that a black man has to run that obstacle course. Do you see Clinton's or McCain's Pastors under the Media Microscope? Why do you stand for this?

Because it benefits you and your candidate? Stacked decks do benefit the house. But you are betting this same media will treat your candidate with kid gloves? All of us should stand united against this treatment...because if you say nothing...they'll soon come after you.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:42 PM
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23. 16. Why is it Obama getting this SPECIAL TREATMENT

The tactic works on people who are ignorant and are influenced by short-sound-bite-snipets
from the media. There are voters out there who need someone else to make up their minds.

I will continue to support OBAMA and I will continue to donate to his campaign. I am riding
this train to the end of the line.

"Never Give Up - Never Surrender"!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:01 PM
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26. I stand with you
:thumbsup:
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anonymous171 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:31 PM
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19. Angry white male here as well. I'm tired of oligarchies running our fucking government
I'm angry at our politicians, both right AND left, who have no regard for the Constitution and the balance of powers. That's what I am pissed off about.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:37 PM
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21. Would you people

Stop using words that make me grap the dictionary! (oligarchies)?
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:05 PM
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27. Well, you used "grap." I had to look that one up.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:38 PM
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22. Nobody listens to angry white males,

But its great that you're for Obama :hi:
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 03:47 PM
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25. This angry white male likes popcorn!
:popcorn:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:28 PM
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31. of course you do
it's white!


Why do you hate caramel corn?




Do you find the name CrackerJacks to be offensive or something?
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:28 PM
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33. !
:rofl:
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dcindian Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:08 PM
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28. face it your a neocon not a racist
:) just kidding
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 04:51 PM
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32. maybe you need to simmer down now.
Save your anger for your enemies. Sometimes your friends and allies might be paranoid, but sometimes they can see you better than you see yourself. You don't have some free pass to say anything about any black person and never get charged as racist. Not until people get to know you.

However, I do think that charge may be tossed around too lightly as well. People read one or two lines, and then, even though they know almost nothing about you, start making charges. That kind of snap judgementalism is crap, but understandable too, because feigned outrage can give a person an edge.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:36 PM
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34. Maybe you should go pout about it to your white friends
instead of posting it where most people will laugh at you?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:48 PM
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35. This angry and bitter white man is now supporting Obama!

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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:55 PM
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36. Holy fucking shit
are you aware of how lame and perfectly stupid your OP is?

If someone called you a racist simply because you support Hillary then you need to read this:

COPING WITH STUPID CONTENT

People who say they won't vote for the Democratic presidential nominee in the general election are not to be taken seriously.

Remember that most people here don't actually believe the ridiculous spin they are posting.

Slicing someone's idiotic argument into tiny little ribbons without losing your cool or breaking the rules takes skill -- but it is incredibly satisfying if you can pull it off. Part of the fun is that dumb people (and dumb bystanders who are reading the exchange) won't realize that they lost the argument. But smart people -- no matter which candidate they support -- will know that you won.

Trolls like attention. They especially like being flamed. If you flame a troll, you lose. If you can expose their stupidity with a quick surgical strike -- without losing your cool or breaking the rules -- by all means go for it. But don't flame and don't let yourself get dragged into an extended back-and-forth, because then you lose.

If you think the problems in the GDP forum are caused primarily by the supporters of one candidate, or if you believe that the supporters of one candidate are better behaved or less disruptive or smarter or more patriotic than the supporters of another candidate, you haven't been paying very close attention.

People who claim they would vote for John McCain over either of the two remaining Democratic candidates are either not progressive or not thinking straight. If you post this, you are basically daring the mods to give you a tombstone.


TAKING CONTROL OF YOUR DU EXPERIENCE

If you want to get away from the infighting about the primaries, we have given you the tools to do so. Read this thread for instructions on hiding the General Discussion: Primaries forum.

If someone sends you an unwanted message to your DU inbox, click the link that says "Block correspondence from {username}."

The ignore function is almost (but not quite) as good as a tombstone. It makes the annoying people disappear.


TAKING SOME RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN BEHAVIOR

Look in the mirror. If your behavior makes you part of the problem, stop complaining! Or better yet, knock it off!

If you keep participating in the infighting about the primaries, then perhaps you are getting some utility from it.

"Everybody else does it" is not an excuse.

If your post gets deleted or your thread gets locked, suck it up.


BEING A GOOD DU CITIZEN

Remember that simply because something is not forbidden by the DU rules does not mean it is constructive, civil, or appropriate. If you are serious about improving the tone in the GDP forum, you should start by becoming the type of DU citizen you expect others to be. Here are a few ideas:

Read the DU rules and follow them.

Call the candidates by their appropriate names: Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, or Senator Clinton and Senator Obama.

Do not refer to candidate supporters using derogatory names. Say "Clinton supporters" and "Obama supporters."

Do not make broad-brush statements about supporters of either candidate.

Remember that supporters of both candidates are good people who want what's best for this country, and for the world.

Don't just stick up for your own candidate. Defend BOTH candidates against unfair, misleading, bigoted, or otherwise inappropriate attacks.

Don't believe something simply because it is favorable to your candidate, or because it is unfavorable to the other.

Be extra sensitive when discussing issues related to race and gender.

Don't act like a jerk.

Don't be a hypocrite.

Use your brain.

After reading the above, act upon it.

Jeebus

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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 07:58 PM
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37. Well, I for one am trying to make some sense out of who would be sticking with Clinton. n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:00 PM
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38. Ah, you'll live.
:eyes:
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:08 PM
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39. I'm also angry, white and male.
The thing that pisses me off is clueless mofos who spew a lot of race-baiting wingnut bullshit about, I don't know, a black preacher not being entitled to speak his mind about what's wrong with this country because he owns a nice house in a nice neighborhood. The difference is, I don't think my gender or ethnicity render my opinions more valid than anyone else's.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:16 PM
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40. I am a Hillary supporter.
I think most people here don't call people racist or sexist just because of who they support. It is just a few who do. I have never called anyone here either racist or sexist.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:18 PM
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42. Just what are you talking about?
Who called you a racist for simply not supporting Obama?
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:19 PM
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43. Another huffy bit of faux outrage from a Hillary supporter.
tiresome.
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