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Mon Apr-28-08 04:48 PM
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Chris Matthews just called Barack Obama "Dr. Jeckle/Mr. Hyde" thanks to the Wright controversy. |
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Now he's interviewing David Axelrod, BO's campaign advisor, so BO must be VERY worried about the fallout from, as Matthews called it the "two days of hell for Obama's supporters", i.e. Jeremiah Wright's wacko performance before the TV cameras this weekend.
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:50 PM
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They need to fight the MSM's framing of the issue. Obama is not Wright, Wright is not affiliated with the campaign.
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:54 PM
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3. Obama was very close to Wright. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:56 PM
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4. Bill Clinton and George Bush are close |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:00 PM
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10. That ain't the only slime he's close to...nor his wife.. |
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Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:00 PM by Doityourself
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:57 PM
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5. I would rather than vote for Wright's best friend than anybody endorsed by Scaife or supported by |
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the same people that bailed * out of his economic difficulties.
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:59 PM
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9. Are they as close as the Clintons are to the Bushes?...nt |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:09 PM
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22. Hillary has been very close with Douglas Coe and the Fellowship, who REALLY wield power |
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Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:09 PM by blm
in DC with the RW and their policy pursuits.
Do you support that close relationship of the last 15 years?
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:43 PM
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34. I haven't seen anything that would bother me about that relationship. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:45 PM
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36. Really? The Fellowship's RW influence on US government doesn't bother you but |
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a black minister from Chicago does?
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:00 PM
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38. What evidence do you have that the "Fellowship" has influenced the US |
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government in a negative way?
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:54 PM
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40. It's founder early on recruited WW2 era propagandists to help him organize his message. |
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And they weren't from the US or England.
They have also coddled RW dictators - and always the same RW dictators favored by Reagan and Bush1.
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:36 PM
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39. Helloooooo! Anyone there? |
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:38 PM
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50. You should do some reading then. |
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http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer.htmlI wish Democrats would stop being so lazily ignorant. They're killing our party.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:41 PM
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:13 PM
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24. Even Obama said on Fox |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:17 PM
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26. he was...until the story broke.. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:07 PM
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43. the senator does check with his pastor before making any bold political moves. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:53 PM
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2. Wacko? I guess you hear the same program I did |
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he made perfect sense. You Hillary supporters will grasp anything in hopes that your Queen will be nominated. She won't be. NC is Obama's and he will net more delegates out of NC and Indiana than the 10 Hillary netted out of Pennsylvania. It's over--Over I say.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:17 PM
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27. Seabiscuit is a horse...Obama may lose the equine vote now. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:57 PM
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I think this reverend thing is overblown by the media.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:00 PM
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It's nice to hear a Clinton supporter think rationally about this and think like a Democrat.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:03 PM
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16. So overblown, in fact, that MSNBC, CNN and FOX are talking about nothing BUT Wright today. |
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Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:10 PM by Seabiscuit
And none of it is the least bit flattering.
That's what the media has come to.
It's going to get a lot worse if Obama wins the nomination.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:06 PM
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20. Thanks for being rational. |
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And that's a great picture of Hillary!
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:36 PM
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49. same here, totally ridiculous. I don't even get what the problem is.... |
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for me the only problem i can see is does it breed resentment by the congragation towards whites, then that can be answered by showing the other sides of the church and what they do for their community and it's over. and also were his children there, and i'm pretty sure the answer is no. case pretty much closed. what is the medias obsession with this?
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:58 PM
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7. Bush is far more "wacko". |
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I agreed with most of Wright's comments. In fact some of the things he said (about chickenhawk Cheney and corporate media) have been running themes on DU for years.
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Mon Apr-28-08 04:58 PM
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8. Thank God for Ryan Lizza, trying to inject some rationality ... |
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Tweety is TOTALLY out of control with this "guilt by association" shit. The underlying message is that Obama is WEAK -- that he SHOULD be judged by the "company he keeps" because he's probably easily led.
This is an INSULT that the media is perpetuating, while not looking at his opponent's susceptibility to political pressure, as well as that of her husband.
Good job by Axelrod to put Tweety in his place -- the dustbin.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:01 PM
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Good god-Obama supporters, you have got to realize that it is over for your candidate |
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SD's will NEVER let him be the nominee now post-Wright. Senator Clinton just got the nod from the incredibly popular governor of North Carolina. I think Obama will lose both NC and Indiana 55-45 next Tuesday. It's over. Face it. His presidential campaign lies in ruin tonight.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:03 PM
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15. Lmao..yeah that's why he's racking up SD's and she's behind and hasn't caught up..Wright is not new |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:05 PM
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19. Wow. I go away for awhile and you go all chicken shit, eh ? Now you're shilling for Hillary? ... |
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How is life without a backbone?
Carry on.. and thank god none of us have to count on you to have "our backs".
Courage. Conviction. Strength in the face of Adversity. Principles. Fortitude.
Hard sometimes, I know.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:08 PM
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21. You forgot the *sarcasm* thingy ... you can't possibly believe ... |
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oh, yeah, you probably do.
Just another one of the SHEEPLE.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:01 PM
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12. This is the first time I've watched anything in quite some time.. and this remark was the first |
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thing I heard when I flipped my TV on briefly this afternoon. That and the notion that, according to Matthews, "Obama looks FOREIGN to us" and so we may look to Wright to define him and end up with Jekyll/Hyde. My mouth is still on the floor, and I see from the hysteria at DU that there is again a Manufactured Wright Extravaganza occuring.
Excuse me while I return to real life. This is like being in a Sci-Fi Thriller. An alternate universe. Wright? Obama as Jekyll/Hyde? Seriously?
I spent the past few days with a couple hundred people in an upscale suburb of Ohio and nobody.. I mean NOT ONE person out of all these latte sippin' mixed with blue collar workin' people.. was talking about this. No Obama. No Hillary. No hysteria over Wright. Nada. And it was a fairly good cross-section of people whom I assume might have been supporters of all three candidates.. when they had time to care.
Right now, they're worried about jobs, gas prices, inflation, stocks, consumer spending, their kids, paying for college.. well, you know.. LIFE.
I am so convinced that the media is digging itself a shallow grave into which its going to fall, fairly soon. The ABC debate was the first domino collapsing. This fiasco may be the straw that broke the camel's back. How much more out of touch can these absolute MORONS be?
Seriously.
They are irresponsbile and dangerous. Please... stop watching. Its a hyperbolic echo chamber, signifying absolutely nothing to the lives of those who need Change the most.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:45 PM
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35. Wright had free access to the airwaves all weekend, with no distortions. |
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People will make up their own mind based on how he came across.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:02 PM
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13. Tweets is paid to say... |
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I hope they blow it up sky-high, and it is all thrown right back in their faces. Shameless hussies all of them!
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:03 PM
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14. Anyone still a big fan of Tweety? |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:04 PM
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17. Never was. He's a republican tool. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:04 PM
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18. Tweety also criticized Wright for having a big ego |
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Why anyone listens to that corporate tool anymore... :dunce:
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:33 PM
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47. Pot calling the kettle black. They both have enormous egos. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:09 PM
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23. They Have Morphed Obama into Rev. Wright |
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Obama is responsible for Rev. Wright's very existence and he should step out of the race immediately.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:14 PM
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25. its imploding... i am so sorry Obama supporters. it was a matter of time, but its a shame |
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it couldnt last forever... Wright coming back out just F'd him.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:20 PM
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28. Obama to Wright: PLEASE JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY, GODDAMNIT!!! |
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:22 PM
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29. Wright is not running for anything. This entire eposode needs to be put into perspective. |
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The man is defending himself not trying to influence elections or change Constitutional law. Senator Obama is our candidate- period. The party better start assisting Obama. He is our general election candidate.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:29 PM
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he got his "depends" all wadded up while listening to wright smack him around last night...poor baby can`t take the fucking truth...
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:32 PM
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31. He is NOT our GE candidate!!!! |
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Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 05:33 PM by Tropics_Dude83
Hillary is still picking up superdelegates. She has a pretty sizeable lead in Indiana, WV, Kentucky, PR and in the popular vote counting Michigan. We were, indeed, almost stuck with the unelectable one but all Hillary has to do is seat Florida and Michigan in any capacity and she'll win the nomination. The superdelegates won't let this party that we all love be destroyed by Senator Obama. This scenario is exactly why superdelegates exist. I never thought I'd see a scenario where SD's have to prevent an unelectable candidate.
In fact, I even question now whether Senator Obama is truly a democrat. I'm not sure what theology he, Wright and Farakhan actually hold but it's not an inclusive democratic liberal left-wing one. That's for sure.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:34 PM
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She'll slaughter him in Guam. That's where she'll make up all the delegates she'll need to catch him.
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Mon Apr-28-08 05:59 PM
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37. "Don't forget Poland!" |
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Mon Apr-28-08 06:56 PM
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41. Why do Guam and Puerto Rico |
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Get to vote in primaries when they can't vote in general elections?
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:09 PM
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44. Because they won't count the Florida and Michigan votes? |
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Mon Apr-28-08 07:53 PM
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42. AW! No more thrill up his leg. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:32 PM
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46. The thrill is gone, the thrill is gone away |
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and nobody likes being suckered, particularly on national TV
Chris will not be kind about it
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Mon Apr-28-08 08:34 PM
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48. why the hell did he call him that? how does bo change b/c of his pastor?... |
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and when does he change back to whatever the other side is? enlighten me, i can't watch matthews.
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Mon Apr-28-08 09:41 PM
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51. Good questions. I wonder who thrills Tweety the most -- Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde. |
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Somebody needs to watch his leg to find out.
No more mandate fantasies.
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Mon Apr-28-08 09:49 PM
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53. he's such a gd freak. he makes me sick. |
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Mon Apr-28-08 09:48 PM
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52. Why? You'd have to ask Chris Matthews. |
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But here's a hint: it's his way of stirring up trouble to keep this election going so he can continue to bash the Clintons for as long as possible. There had to come a time when he'd go after Obama too, or Clinton might just do so poorly in places like Ohio, Texas, and Pennsylvania, she'd drop out and end all his fun.
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Tue Apr-29-08 08:55 AM
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54. Maybe Obama can't disavow Wright because maybe Wright knows things about Obama |
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that Obama doesn't want anyone else to know. And maybe Obama's at least smart enough to know that if publicly ditched Wright, Wright's the kind of person who would retaliate with such revelations.
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