Are Obama's "chickens coming home... to roost"?

[Seabiscuit]

As if all the negative coverage on FOX, CNN and MSNBC today about the Reverend Wright's refusal to shut his pie-hole this weekend isn't bad enough, here's "a time bomb ready to explode" concerning Obama's lies about his Rezko/slumlord connections Republicans are salivating over: http://www.bartcop.com/the-coming-attacks.htm

So... who is this guy, anyway? Dr. Jeckyl? Or Mr. Hyde? Or both?

[CBGLuthier]

1. shut his piehole

Aren't you wondrously disrespectful to a man who served his country.

Fuck my fellow Oklahoman bartcop, he is just a clintonian shill.

[enid602]

23. Wright

I'm a Clinton supporter, but I'm bowled over by Wright. Just think how this country might have been the last several years if he were VP, and not '5 deferment Cheney.' I think we can expect great things from Wright in the future.

[JoFerret]

26. Wright has just staked a claim to be the leader of the AA community

.

[Hoof Hearted]

36. .

[onefreespiritedchick]

67. Wright is dreaming n/t

[Seabiscuit]

32. I think Wright is gunning for a spot as an am-talk-radio host.

[Hutzpa]

52. Piehole

dang!

you must be 'stuck on stupid'

[2rth2pwr]

2. Obama was supposed to unite the country, overcoming racial and even partisan division.

How's that working out?

[Joe the Revelator]

3. We'll you're still running around spouting stupid talking points, so I guess he failed

Then again, some people just can't be helped.

[cliffordu]

4. Ain't him doing it

Hill is still a second stringer.


Everybody but you knows it, too.

[Mz Pip]

5. He can't do it alone

No one person can. But you already knew that.

[tekisui]

6. Hillary was going to win by Super Tuesday, how's that working out?

Wright is not running for anything. He has been used as a wedge issue by Obama's opponents: the GOP, and Hillary.

[JoFerret]

27. Maybe we all are just not ready yet

perhaps in another decade.

[PoliticalAmazon]

77. Don't think we are ready for a lesbian president, either, but Hillary is running. n/t

[truedelphi]

33. If the media hadn't taken a 45 second sound byte and spun it on its butt

Again and again and then go pretending to "lament" that the Wright issue won't go away" well DON'T IT SEEM like more of the Dean scream revisited.

Except no one screamed.

Wright is articulate, can parse a thought in such an admirable way that I would vote for HIM as President at this point.

Like Wright said yesterday in front of the NAACP - it isn't his statements that are divisive - it's the damn policies.

[2rth2pwr]

38. If he was President maybe he could put an end to the AIDS virus.

[EmilyAnne]

47. He's definitely done great work stopping the spread of HIV in his community. He has worked

to remove the stigma of the disease by leading his congregation in coordinated cheek swab HIV testing. It was pretty awesome.

[2rth2pwr]

50. By spreading his whacked conspiracy theories he is killing people.

Literally killing people.

STUDY BY RAND AND OREGON STATE UNIVERSITY FINDS CONSPIRACY BELIEFS AMONG AFRICAN AMERICANS DETER CONDOM USE
http://www.rand.org/news/press.05/01.25.html
“These beliefs are widespread and demonstrate substantial mistrust of the health care system among African Americans,” said Laura Bogart, a RAND Health psychologist and lead author of the study. “For HIV prevention efforts to be successful, these beliefs need to be discussed openly, because people who do not trust the health care system may be less likely to listen to public health messages. This includes messages about HIV prevention.”

African American men who agreed with conspiracy myths were significantly less likely to report that they use condoms regularly. This was not the case among African American women.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33695-2005Jan24.html
"The whole notion of conspiracy theories and misinformation . . . removes personal responsibility," Wilson said. "If there is this boogeyman, people say, 'Why should I use condoms? Why should I use clean needles?' And if I'm an organization, 'Why should I bother with educating my folks?' The syphilis study was real, but it happened 40 years ago, and holding on to it is killing us."

More than half of those surveyed believed there is a cure for AIDS, but it is being withheld from the poor.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4468151

Allerton said the key to better prevention is more involvement by the black community, including church leaders. Also, messages about prevention need to be targeted to specific communities.
http://sexualhealth.e-healthsource.com/?p=news1&id=523594

[Triana]

44. Blaming Hillary's divisiveness on Obama eh? Obama's not responsible

for how she runs HER campaign.

Methinks thou doth projecteth too much.

[jackson_dem]

53. Yup. He can't even unite his party. How can he do all of the above that Axlerod claims he can?

Of course Axlerod and Rove have proven that "unity" is just an election year gimmick.

[mmonk]

60. I don't know. Ask a bigot.

[butterfly77]

79. Its working fine for me...

maybe it could work for you if you could "Handle the TRUTH"!

[jeffrey_X]

7. You post signifies the ignorance of our sound-byte driven society

I've watched the coverage the past 4 hours and I'm completely blown away by the fact NOT ONE FUCKING PERSON has actually discussed the content of what Wright is saying.

All the say is "Wright this..." "Wright that..." but nobody has said anything of any fucking substance.

And the fact that everyone is connecting Wright and Obama at the hip is just fucking stupid. This country is dumber than I thought.

Please...somebody...anybody...break down the contents of what Wright is saying and please tell me how this directly effects Obama becoming POTUS.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

17. Thank you for that. Content doesn't matter, "feelings matter" and

that is what the MSM plays on.

[blm]

8. THIS bothers you but Jackson Stephens brings BCCI bank into this country, bankrolls Clinton career

gets BCCI matters deepsixed so BushInc can get back into WH and terrorists can continue growing their global networks, and you think Rezko, a small time wannabe is even worth raising any Dem's temperature by a degree?

[PBS Poll-435]

10. Oh good LORD...

Again with the BCCI stuff...

[blm]

13. You are welcome to post how BCCI matters deep-sixed throughout the 90s are not relevant to anything

happening today.

But it will be easy going for you as you prove that Jackson Stephens, Dubai and Saudi royals, Bin Ladens, AQ Khan and operatives like Marc Rich, James Bath and Adnan Kashoggi have never deserved appropriate focus and accountability on their activities while involved with GHWBush's extensive operations, as none of their dealings led up to anything happening today, eh?

[PBS Poll-435]

15. I am affraid I don't have my hat to put on right now...

:tinfoilhat:

It is at the Silversmith getting all shined up for the GE.

[blm]

18. Why don't you just admit you never once read the BCCI report?

You do know that Iran's supposed nuclear capability is supposed to have come from AQ Khan network - the same AQ Khan named in the BCCI report? Or are you going to hold off till we're at war with Iran before THAT concerns you?

[PBS Poll-435]

22. Just take a deep breath...

Breath...

[blm]

25. READ - people have risked their lives and careers so citizens can access National Security Archives

that you political PLAYERS prefer to ignore in favor of your view of the game.

I can breathe and read at the same time.

[wrando]

59. if this is true

you better believe this will finish Obama

his entire campaign is predicated on the notion that he is a new kind of politician

if any of this is true then he's hardly anything new, just another crooked pol

I will say I hope, like the author, that there is a good explanation for all this

bill from ct

[blm]

62. You think THIS is of concern but Clintons being bankrolled by Jackson Stephens wasn't

even though Bill proceeded to deep-six BCCI matters when he took office, thereby protecting Poppy Bush and Jackson Stephens and their BCCI dealings?

You all support the TRULY CORRUPT actions of BushInc that ended up HURTING this nation on 9-11, and you want the protection of BushInc to continue again under the protective umbrella of another Clinton administration.

[wrando]

63. bcci

If you want to talk ancient history and about one of many debunked Clinton scandals, or the fact that Clinton made a big mistake letting Bush off the hook especially on the Iran Contra business you have every right. I happen to agree with you, Clinton turned the other cheek and they impeached him for his weakness.

The fact remains all of the above and this matter are not connected.

I would ask you, if this turns out to be true, wouldn't you feel betrayed and disappointed?

not to mention the fact that there could be crimes involved here

bill from ct

[blm]

64. BCCI isn't ancient history - BCCI matters unresolved flew jets into NYC buildings on 9-11

2001, and allowed Bush2 to emerge in control of our government.

Those SAME BCCI figures protected by Bill have also been lining his bank accounts the last 8 years - but let's all pretend there is no connection, just so Clinton supporters can feel good about themselves.

Protect the lies of Bush-Clinton or protect truth of our nation's actual historic record - there is no other choice.

[wrando]

65. total nonsense

events ten times removed

you can't fault Bill Clinton for the supreme court changing the will of the people

what this poster's link goes to is direct serious corruption alleged against Barack Obama and his partners



bill from ct

[blm]

66. There would be no Bush2 possible if BCCI's outstanding matters were resolved instead of deep-sixed.

There would have been NO 9-11 event planned by Bin Laden or any of the global terrorist networks being funded through BCCI's illegal operations.

Utter nonsense comes from those Bush-Clinton supporters who need to pretend that BCCI matters WERE closed appropriately.

[wrando]

68. if is big word

What does that have to do with allegations of corruption against Barack Obama?

Did these other events force Obama to possibly commit crimes?

How can you defend one mistake with another unrelated mistake?

BCCI has nothing to do with Obama's dealings described in the link.

These are allegations only, but we need to know the truth before Obama becomes the nominee.

Read the piece, prove it wrong, that would be helpful.

bill from ct

[blm]

69. It's called SENSE OF PROPORTION. You want us to get warm about Rezko when BCCI dealings were covered

up for Bush and Stephens by Bill Clinton throughout the 90s, AND Clintons are getting TENS OF MILLIONS of dollars pumped into their bank accounts NOW by the very people who were protected by Bill's deep-sixing of BCCI matters? Some of those millions are being lent to Hillary's campaign.

Do you HAVE a sense of proportion at least nearby that you can BORROW?

[wrando]

70. you better get warm

you can't undo the past

but you better believe if there's a shred of truth in this the repubs will make if more than warm

all they need is a shred and they will make it huge

let's face it the repubs still have a formidable propaganda operation at their disposal

as far as your last point on Hillary's campaign and BCCI money I'd like to see a shred of truth in that

and not tin foil hat stuff

bill from ct

[blm]

73. Front page WSJ, Jan 22.

PAGE ONE

Bill Clinton May Get Payout of $20 Million
By JOHN R. EMSHWILLER
January 22, 2008; Page A1

Former President Clinton stands to reap around $20 million -- and will sever a politically sensitive partnership tie to Dubai -- by ending his high-profile business relationship with the investment firm of billionaire friend Ron Burkle.

Mr. Clinton is negotiating to end his relationship with Mr. Burkle's Yucaipa Cos. as part of a broader effort to protect the presidential campaign of his wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, from potential conflicts of interest. Details of Mr. Clinton's involvement in Yucaipa and his efforts to unwind it come from documents and interviews with people familiar with the matter.


The former president has had links to Yucaipa since early 2002, when Mr. Burkle -- a longtime friend and political contributor -- offered him a role there. Mr. Clinton's association with the firm began at a time when he was looking to earn large amounts of money, partly to pay heavy legal bills accumulated to defend himself and Mrs. Clinton from several investigations during his presidency.

Now, as he negotiates with Yucaipa to withdraw from the relationship, he is a wealthy man, thanks partly to tens of millions of dollars he has earned making speeches around the world.

Mr. Clinton initially signed on with Mr. Burkle as a senior adviser to closely held Yucaipa. As part of that arrangement, Mr. Burkle agreed to give Mr. Clinton a share of the profits from two Yucaipa domestic investment funds if their returns reached a certain threshold. Mr. Clinton's adviser arrangement ended in early 2007, five years after it began. But Mr. Clinton still hasn't settled the issue of his payout.

Multimillion-Dollar Payday

The sales in recent months of Wild Oats Markets Inc. and Pathmark Stores Inc. produced several hundred million dollars in profits for the two Clinton-related Yucaipa domestic funds, which had big shareholdings in the two supermarket chains. Profits from the sales helped to push the funds above the earnings threshold needed to generate a multimillion-dollar payday for the former president, according to public documents related to the sales and other information.

The deals were announced in February and March 2007, respectively -- around the time Mr. Clinton's involvement as an adviser to the domestic funds was set to expire. By not closing out his Yucaipa relationship before those sales were completed, President Clinton probably increased the amount of money ultimately due him, say people familiar with such transactions.

Mr. Clinton is also looking to close out partnership interests in a Yucaipa fund that focuses on investing in foreign companies. This fund -- called Yucaipa Global Partnership Fund LP -- has raised several hundred million dollars from a range of investors. Unlike his deal to advise the two Yucaipa domestic funds, Mr. Clinton invested an undisclosed sum of his own money in the global fund and has a limited partnership interest.

Mr. Clinton is also one of three owners of the global fund's general partner. The others are Mr. Burkle, who is the managing member, and an entity connected to the ruler of Dubai, Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum.
>>>>>>>


SAME Dubai royals helped stake BCCI in the first place.

Looks like they're gratitude comes with lots of zeros.

[wrando]

75. and?

typical modern day post presidency activities

anything illegal in there?

how does that money get into Hillary's campaign?

this money goes to Bill Clinton's charitable foundation, where much good is done

Dubai was ready to buy our ports in 2005

bcci has no connection with any of this

it's many times removed


The allegations against Obama are direct and maybe criminal, if it's even remotely true the repubs will bury him, if it's even remotely invent-able they will bury him

this Clinton stuff is all legal business, doesn't smell great, but he's not sticking the money in his pocket, and it has no connection to Hillary's campaign

bill from ct

[blm]

78. The SAME Dubai royals PROTECTED by BCCI matters being dropped by Bill are paying MILLIONS INTO

Bill's bank accounts - NOT just the foundation, but his PAYOFF for alleged 'work' he has done for another Harken type company. And they shouldn't be ALLOWED any access to our ports for abetting global terror networks thru BCCI all those years.

YOU don't see it because you NEED to not see it.

What HAPPENED to BCCI's matters throughout the 90s? Did they get deep-sixed on their own?

We KNOW GHWBush stonewalled the investigation for years - can you show me where Bill took office and FACILITATED access to those documents needed and blocked by Poppy Bush?

[wrando]

80. I know

I know that Clinton closed down the investigations of HW, and I was pissed, but that's another issue.

it has nothing to do with Ann's article and Obama

bill from ct

[blm]

83. As a matter fo PERSPECTIVE it has EVERYTHING to do with it. Rezko is nothing and

everyone associated with him is NOTHING in the scheme of who and what are the actual dangers to this nation.

[Name removed]

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[Life Long Dem]

11. Read it and weep.

The polls don't show it. But this shit with the media needs to stop.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/

[jefferson_dem]

12. Who is this guy?

He the guy who already spanked one of your fave candidates into submission and is now spanking another. I can see how the animosity has built up in you. Don't worry. By attrition, you'll end up with the winner anyway.

[bowens43]

14. more blubbering nonsense.

Are lies and distortions the really the best you can do?

[Yossariant]

16. Excellent thread title.

:thumbsup:

[Seabiscuit]

31. Thank you! n/t

[anigbrowl]

19. Quoting articles by people who won't even sign their name to them? Epic fail.

My friend 'Bob' tells me you are part of the CON.

[Yossariant]

21. LOL! The dailykos site was busy.

:rofl:

[zulchzulu]

20. Your ass must hurt from pulling this shit out of...

This "story" has been vetted. What's fucking hilarious is how the Repigs (and by proxy the Clinton Machine) are thinking that a 10 foot by 20 yard piece of land is somehow the way to get the Clintons in as the co-nominees.

This shit is like somebody getting their ass kicked and they were able to bite on the ass kicker's hand for 2 seconds before getting slammed into gristle.

It's over. Hillary is not going to be the nominee...and Obama is our next President.

Watch and learn.

[Life Long Dem]

24. The sheeple will follow...

H-I-L-L-L O-W-E-E-E where r u?

[Lady-Damai]

28. Too funny.......n/t

[Seabiscuit]

29. Maybe we're all underestimating Rev. Wright...

could it be that all he was doing this weekend was auditioning for a spot as a talk radio host? After all, he took aim at offending just about everyone.

[jeffrey_X]

34. No..I'm sure he's trying educate America. You know...actually listening to more than just 30 second

sound bytes.

Maybe he's trying to clear his name. Maybe he's got some pride.

[Seabiscuit]

37. Indeed, this weekend he demonstrated he was too "proud" to do anything other than make feeble

attempts to justify all the stupid things the media has exposed him as having said at this "church".

And he has the gall to claim that all the criticism is not an attack on him, but an attack on "the black church"??? Sheeit, mon. His is the *only* "black church" with a wacko minister who foams at the mouth the way he does.

He has yet to take any real responsibililty for any of his statements.

[jeffrey_X]

41. And what exactly does this have to do with Obama?

Please connect the dots for me.

[Seabiscuit]

42. Here 'ya go: Obama pretends that while regularly attending this gasbag's "sermons" for over 20 years

he somehow never heard or heard of any of the crazy rants that just happened to be put up on Youtube and later played on the Cable TV. Such a devoted church-goer that even if by some remote chance he just happened to miss those particular sermons, he can't even recall others in his parish commenting to him about the sermons he missed? As if those were the only times Wright behaved that way during the entire 20 years Obama sat there listening to his sermons with approval? Does he think we're all that stupid?

Even worse, while saying he didn't agree with what Wright said in *those* particular sermons, he simultaneously (1) refused to throw Wright under the bus by disassociating himself from Wright and his church, and instead (2) threw his own grandmother under the bus by calling her a "typical white person" who makes "racist" comments (sounds like something Wright would say). The same grandmother who along with his grandfather put him through that exclusive private school in Hawaii, then Cornell and Harvard. Not even so much as a thanks to the two people who gave him the opportunities that made it possible to become who he is today. He stands by the wackadoodle minister he reveres, yet insults his grandmother and all white people in the same breath, calling her a "typical white person" who, of course, is typical, because he claims she is a "racist" who made "racist" comments during his childhood. Ergo, "typical white people" are "racist". Sound like Jeremiah Wright much? You betcha.

Got it now? Hell, you knew all that already, didn't you.

Please don't ask me to do your thinking for you again. This is the last time I entertain your gluttony for punishment.

[chascarrillo]

30. Funny remark for someone with Edwards as their avatar.

Which is he? Superrich mansion owner or populist fighter for the poor?

[Hoof Hearted]

35. His chickens just jumped into the fryer.

And the smell from all the ruffled feathers is just unbearable.

[Lady-Damai]

39. Most Black people share Rev. Wright's views.

So, my feelings about race relations in America does not count? Who is FOX, CNN and MSNBC to tell me how to feel about certain issues? Are we not free to talk about things that concern us? My parents are not American. They didn't go through the same things as AA. My father in particular hates this country. My mother believes America needs more work. They both have strong views about America. Am I supposed to dismiss them? No, I LISTEN to them. The key to understanding ppl who feel oppressed is listening. Nothing in Rev. Wright's speech last night is new to me.


America is not a perfect union there is many elements which ppl throughout this world dislike. Rev. Wright views is shared with many ppl on every continent.


Resko and Rev. Wright are two very different things. Obama has not lost support from his supporters. Hillary chickens are already roasted. Her approval rating is way down. I lost count on how many Hillary supporters have left to go to Obama. I have not seen *any* Obama supporter jump ship to SS Clinton.

[Seabiscuit]

43. Bull. The only church he represents is his own.

There has been a constant stream of black pastors appearing on TV programs ever since Sean Hannity started playing the Wright video clips. These pastors uniformly condemn Wright and uniformly say he doesn't speak for them, the people that attend their black churches, or any black church anywhere in the country besides Wright's own church.

[Lady-Damai]

46. How many black pastors? Are their churches in very poor areas of the Black community?

Can you name these black pastors? I thought Sean Hannity was a Republican puppet. Why would I care about anything that happens on his show?

Did you see other black pastors condemning Rev. Wright on other shows? When did Rev. Wright say he was *speaking* for all the black churches? So, I guess NAACP is just a small thing that doesn't matter to the black community? If, Rev. Wright was so wrong and most black ppl didn't share his views.... Why would the biggest black organization in America stand by him?

[EmilyAnne]

49. Strange. Here in Pittsburgh, I have heard over and over from black friends that the Rev Wright

style rhetoric is exactly what will be found in their "black" churches. Pittsburgh is extremely poor, of course, and most of these churches are right smack dab in the ghetto.

[Seabiscuit]

58. I wasn't talking about black pastors appearing on Hannity's show.

I was talking about black pasters appearing on TV - on numerous shows.

As a rule, I don't watch Hannity's show or anything else on FOX. My wife occasionally watches CNN and MSNBC and we both occasionally watch local news channels. When the Wright video clips broke on some of these other channels there were attributions to Hannity as being the first to put them on TV.

All of these other channels (and I assume FOX as well) have had numerous black pastors being interviewed, and all of them condemned Wright in the manner described. I didn't sit around counting them on my fingers, but over the weeks/past month or so there have probably been a couple dozen of them at least - not one of which defended Wright. They were from all over the country. Just yesterday another one appeared on Tweety's "Hardball" roundly condemning Wright.

I never said Wright was speaking for all black churches. But he did remark that the "attacks" on him weren't on him but on "the black church/(churches)". Which is total racist bull.

I didn't watch him on his appearances this weekend, and don't know what the NAACP thinks of him. But I would be surprised if its leadership expressed any approval of his crazier statements (or gestures, such as humping the podium at church in front of a group of people including children to demonstrate how he stupidly claims Bill Clinton screwed black people).

The thing Obama and his supporters should be most concerned about is the fact that to the vast majority of the voting public in America, Wright comes across as a raving lunatic. Obama's supporters are doing him a disservice by straining to defend Wright.

[Apollo11]

61. It's not just the substance of his views. It's also his attitude and aggressiveness.

But some of his views are pretty out there and not exactly in line with mainstream attitudes.

[Forkboy]

40. If we keep playing these moronic games the chickens will be coming home to roost for us all.

[Mezzo]

45. He doesn't really know the guy. are you kidding?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

48. voters are bored with this gutter stuff they want to hear about the economy!

[wrando]

55. now lets talk about the economy

you know people are worried when it's time to talk economics

if half of what is posted in that link is true and it becomes widely known Obama is cooked

I doubt that it's 100% fiction, but anything is possible

this thread is off topic

did you read the link?

Bill from ct

[jbnow]

51. If they want this mysterious paperwork on the house

I guess they should ask the Chicago Tribune or Sun Times. They both got all the documents related to the transaction handed to them at the start of his 90 minutes interviews.

It is very nefarious information that the link posted gives, that the ties to Rezko "go further back than he has admitted to (for example, here's a factoid for you: Rezko offered Obama a job in 1990, before he even graduated from Harvard Law School"

What a crack reporter! Wow, all Chicago papers had learned from Obama and written over the years is that Rezko had offered Obama a job before he even graduated from Harvard Law school. Sinister how that's the same thing.

The Tribune even eked out the mysterious reason Obama would hang around with sleaze like Rezko and not hide the relationship or when it started

It's easy to forget today, but in the years before 2005, Rezko enjoyed a reputation in Illinois as an up-and-coming, even enlightened entrepreneur with a strong interest in the risky low-income and affordable housing markets that relied on tax credits and other government assistance.

They got him! He knew an up-and-coming, even enlightened entrepreneur.

They learned a lot about his sly financing too

At the Tribune's request, Cook County Circuit Court Chief Judge Timothy Evans produced a list of all 260 civil and criminal cases in which the firm filed appearances, and the Tribune separately examined 1990s lawsuits that Rezmar Corp. listed in applications for government grants. The paper also examined files from the Illinois Housing Development Authority and the city housing department, as well as the hundreds of clients Obama listed in the unusually frank ethics disclosure reports he filed as a state senator from December 1995 through April 2004.

They discovered all those hours Obama worked for the an up-and-coming, even enlightened entrepreneur (aka slumlord) indirectly! Can't recall if it was 5 or 6. But those people with unusually frank disclosure reports aren't to be trusted. Why aren't they hiding anything?

They saw through this Obama character after 12 years of scrutiny as they noted in their post Rezko interview Editorial

When we endorsed Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination Jan. 27, we said we had formed our opinions of him during 12 years of scrutiny. We concluded that the professional judgment and personal decency with which he has managed himself and his ambition distinguish him.

Nothing Obama said in our editorial board room Friday diminishes that verdict.

Please don't tell anyone this because I wouldn't want people to believe the truth that he isn't some great unknown scary guy but someone the papers scrutinized for years in a way they would a local claim to fame Harvard Law review Editor who had already written his first book and lives and works right where your papers are... and Lord if people knew he was honorable and honest than the lies and smears might not stick as well.

You know, I wish all the candidates would have their chickens come home to roost, would reap what they've sown and deceptions fall away.
Whether people trust his experience or not this really is a good and decent man.

[VotesForWomen]

54. it's only a matter of time. nt

[Vinca]

56. The new talking point - Dr. Jeckyl/Mr. Hyde.

What a shameless bunch.

[redqueen]

72. Yup...

but so many of them play the victim so well.

It's really something to see...

[DemVet]

57. Obama lied? Who would have thought?

[Bigleaf]

71. Them 'chickens coming home to roost' are Superdelegates it appears. They seem to be coming at quite

the pace now for Obama.

[Seabiscuit]

74. BREAKING: Obama's on TV now distancing himself even further from Wright, noting that he considered

Wright's "rantings" (his word) this weekend to be "disrespectful" of him personally and an "insult" to his campaign. He stated that Wright's "rants" this weekend "contradict" everything he's ever believed and everthing he's ever worked for. He was particularly "outraged" at Wright's pretense that Obama's disapproval of Wright's words from those infamous tapes was nothing more than "playing politics".

Despite the many hesitant "uh...uh...uhs", I finally gained some respect for Obama's ability to deal with this albatross on his campaign's back.

I got the impression Obama was also sending a message to his supporters to quit straining so hard to defend Jeremiah Wright, and in particular, Wright's "rants" this weekend. Obama came within an inch of completely disowning Jeremiah Wright.

[mmonk]

76. Nope, Hillary's are coming home to roost.

[JVS]

81. How dare he be black. He's sure getting his comeuppance now.

[wrando]

82. race card?

once again the race shield is used

pathetic

bill from ct