So...Mark Penn gets moved out but makes over 4mil $ for APRIL? 2mil more than he was paid in March?

[blm]

Yep - Penn must be earning those bucks from Hillary2008 with his underground efforts, eh.

Peake Delancey Printers, LLC 9,684.64
Penn's Catering 681.25
Penn, Schoen & Berland Assoc. LLC 4,577,820.61
People Calling People, LLC 0.00
Pepek, William 245.74
Phoenix Design Group, Inc.

[MannyGoldstein]

1. He Earned It

:rofl:

(I haven't seen such coddling of staggeringly poor performers since... since... dare I say?... George W. Bush's administration!)

[Onlooker]

22. He's certainly earned it in April

If he's still working for Clinton, he's doing a heck of a job as her campaign rises from the dead, and she has a real shot at winning. Her attacks, her exploitation of the MSM, her tough talk on terrorism (that makes Obama sound comparatively weak), her superior debate performance, and her commercials have kept her chances alive. I don't like it one bit, but I am impressed by her campaign. If she wants to win, she really is making her best shot.

[eridani]

44. She is also making her case for losing the general election

Tough on terrorism = FAIL. McCain, ex-POW is way tougher. The only way you can fight that is to shift the framing, which she refuses to do.

[Shakespeare]

2. That's because he's not really off the campaign.

I read last week that Bill insisted he stay on. :puke:

[blm]

4. so any antiPenn supporters and supers would be sucked into YET ANOTHER LIE.

Typical

They wanted Penn hidden for Pennsylvania labor voters so they lied.

Her supporters must be so proud.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

24. So is Penn dealing in Columbia!!!!!

[gal]

26. They only changed his title.

They never said they were getting rid of him, just "demoting" him.
Yea whatever....

[blm]

31. All show for Penn labor voters. Clintons have NO RESPECT for the intelligence of their own voters

and think it is perfectly acceptable to exploit their trust, just as Bush and GOP do.

[Frank Booth]

3. Bill's a big fan, and Bill's calling the shots.

Plus, it's a wink and nod to Colombia that the free trade agreement's still on the table if Hillary finagles the presidency.

[Stephanie]

9. Good call.

I think you're right. From the beginning they've said oh, Penn's gone, however he will be doing the polling, debate prep, media strategy, etc. It was a bullshit cosmetic maneuver but he hasn't gone anywhere. Why should he? His lowdown dirty Rovian smear politics is WORKING. Hillary's risen from the dead.

[blm]

36. Because Clintons COUNT on their supporters being too stupid to notice their lies

so they say YEAH, YEAH, Penn is gone to make labor voters happy and then they pull this shit because they HAVE NO RESPECT for their voters and their intellect.

[polpilot]

40. Sorry..but Clinton supporters at this point AREN'T very smart or they're pro-war

anti-U.S. worker. Very clear @ this point.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

5. did they ever pay the Boys club or the University in CA

just wondering.

[40ozDonkey]

6. Our idiotic automatons will be better than their idiot automatons.

No, really, we swear! When they inevitably fuck up, we'll know better than to defend them! That would be gauche.

By the by, good sir, I hear Obama's an elitist.

[Stephanie]

7. linky linky?

Did new reports just come out? I was offline a few days. Penn only got a change in title, nothing else has changed.

[blm]

10. it's at her campaign site's financial report page

.

[flor de jasmim]

8. Maybe the guy who replaced him is from the same firm...so now there are 2 to pay?

[C_U_L8R]

11. In Clintonia, being fired means doubling your salary

four and a half MILLION dollars.... that's where your donations went Hillary fans,
right in Mark Penn's rump pocket.

[Lisa0825]

13. Sounds like Bush-speak....

Clear Skies Initiative.... No Child Left Behind... Mission Accomplished.... nothing can be taken at face value in the Bush or Clinton camps.

[blm]

35. Exactly - Bushes and Clintons use the exact same tactics.

.

[blm]

16. They want to pretend Obama is corrupt when they are lining Fascists' bank accounts

with THEIR money.

[madfloridian]

12. Penn's still in because of Bill Clinton. Read this...

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/2036

"Mr. Clinton's influence is evident in pollster Mark Penn's continuing role in the campaign. Sen. Clinton recently demoted Mr. Penn as her chief strategist after he took part in talks with Colombia's U.S. ambassador over promoting a free-trade pact with the U.S. that she opposes.

However, Mr. Penn has helped in recent debate preparation, and proposed Sen. Clinton's last-minute negative ad in Pennsylvania questioning whether Sen. Obama has "what it takes."

[BlueIdaho]

14. Welcome to Clintonomics!

Where less really IS more!

[Coexist]

15. wha??

[uponit7771]

17. But but but Wright is a terrorist!!!!

[olkaz]

18. Hillary needs your donations! Pony up!

FEED ME!

[blm]

25. heheh...you should make that into a parody thread of HRC donation pleas

.

[yourguide]

19. wow. great catch!

[nichomachus]

20. And a special thanks to all the Hillary supporters who

"taught Obama a lesson" by sending in their money to Hillary in the last few weeks.

I thank you. My tailor thanks you. My stockbroker thanks you. My deli thanks you.

[libnnc]

37. LOL

:spray:

[mod mom]

21. I wonder how Hillary supporters feel about their donations going into Penn's pocket. On Penn:

Penn, who had previously worked in the business world for companies like Texaco and Eli Lilly, brought his corporate ideology to the White House. After moving to Washington he aggressively expanded his polling firm, Penn, Schoen & Berland (PSB). It was said that Penn was the only person who could get Bill Clinton and Bill Gates on the same phone line. Penn's largest client was Microsoft, and he saw no contradiction between working for both the plaintiff and the defense in what was at the time the country's largest antitrust case. A variety of controversial clients enlisted PSB. The firm defended Procter and Gamble's Olestra from charges that it caused anal leakage, blamed Texaco's bankruptcy on greedy jurors and market-tested genetically modified foods for Monsanto. Penn invented the concept of "inoculation," in which corporations are shielded from scandal through clever advertising and marketing. Selling an image, companies realized, was as important as winning a legislative favor.
Burson-Marsteller is hardly a natural fit for a prominent Democrat. The firm has represented everyone from the Argentine military junta to Union Carbide after the 1984 Bhopal disaster in India, in which thousands were killed when toxic fumes were released by one of its plants, to Royal Dutch Shell, which has been accused of massive human rights violations in Nigeria. B-M pioneered the use of pseudo-grassroots front groups, known as "astroturfing," to wage stealth corporate attacks against environmental and consumer organizations. It set up the National Smokers Alliance on behalf of Philip Morris to fight tobacco regulation in the early 1990s. Its current clients include major players in the finance, pharmaceutical and energy industries. In 2006, with Penn at the helm, the company gave 57 percent of its campaign contributions to Republican candidates.

A host of prominent Republicans fall under Penn's purview. B-M's Washington lobbying arm, BKSH & Associates, is run by Charlie Black, a leading GOP operative who maintains close ties to the White House, including Karl Rove, and was former partners with Lee Atwater, the political consultant who crafted the Willie Horton smear campaign used by George H.W. Bush against Michael Dukakis in 1988. Black regularly disparages the Clintons; he has called Hillary a "martyr figure" and said Bill "tearfully embraced...government preferences for homosexual lifestyle." In recent years Black's clients have included the likes of Iraq's Ahmad Chalabi, the darling of the neocon right in the run-up to the war; Lockheed Martin; and Occidental Petroleum. In the summer of 2005 he landed a contract with the Lincoln Group, the disgraced PR firm that covertly placed US military propaganda in Iraqi news outlets. The agreement, according to Intelligence Online, allowed the Lincoln Group to "tap into BKSH's extensive contacts in the Republican administration." When asked by The New Yorker if there was too much cronyism in Iraq, Black responded, "I just wish I could find the cronies."

-SNIP

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070521/berman

[blm]

27. Clinton supporters have perfected the art of ignoring the fascism of TeamClinton.

.

[mod mom]

30. They join the Corporate media, GOP and SCOTUS in attempting to stop Sen Obama's

candidacy! How fortunate for HRC that the SC ruled on the Indiana Voter ID law now as opposed to June as was expected.

:mad:

[livetohike]

23. Hence, why the Clinton's campaign is in debt

What horrible money managers. Do you trust her with the economic problems this country is facing?

[americanstranger]

28. Man oh man, talk about failing upwards!

K/R.

- as

[blm]

29. And I hear Bush will be presenting Rove and Penn with the Medal of Freedom for Fascism, too.

Any day now.

[cliffordu]

32. I LOVE MARK PENN!!! HE NEEDS A RAISE!!!!

[blm]

33. Maybe someone at DU will post another fund drive so Hillary can pay him 6million for May.

Fascists don't come cheap.

[cliffordu]

34. ROFL

no, they don't

[Orsino]

38. Clinton is not yet in a position to award him the Medal of Freedom. n/t

[anigbrowl]

39. At least the campaign isn't spending money on PCP (right after Penn)

It's 3am - do you know what your priorities are?

[blm]

45. heheh...do you know where my pcp is?

I know I left here somewhere....LOL.

[stillcool]

41. What could he possibly...

be doing that would warrant him raking in such bucks? I'd like to see what he is spending it on.

[blm]

42. Yep - but then serious crimes cost serious bucks. Fascists don't come cheap.

.

[blm]

46. Maybe Penn's paying the lying robocalls in NC out of this hefty salary.

.

[VolcanoJen]

43. Hey, Fence Sitters: Big Difference Between Obama and Clinton

Obama casts aside even his most beloved, personal, unpaid supporters aside when they do something so incredibly antithecal to the campaign that they can no longer be embraced.

Clinton just makes a phony speech about how wrong someone is, pushes them outside of the public eye, takes them off the conference calls and reassigns them to the Oppo Department.

Isn't he still getting paid?