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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:30 PM
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Did you hear that line from Scalia's interview re Bush v. Gore?
Scalia's words paraphrased: "It was Al Gore who brought this into the courts. I want this decided by the courts," Al Gore said.

These are the paraphrased words of Scalia that were just played on MSNBC!

I almost fell off my chair. The Bush* campaign filed the first legal court document in this struggle. It chronically baited Gore to do so. Gore did not take the bait. He knew if the eventual winner was decided by the courts, that winner would not be considered as "legitimate" by the voting public. And right Al Gore was about that decision, and thus he did not take the bait.

Because Al Gore showed such excellent judgment in that decision, the Bush* campaign had no alternative if it wanted to prevail than to go to court. And so it did. And thus it began.

Scalia was one of the infamous 5 Supreme Court judges who stopped the recount. He also signed that infamous final decision essentially giving Bush* the election.

My question is this: WHY IN THE HELL DID A SUPREME COURT JUDGMENT ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE ENTIRE PROCEEDING FAIL TO REMEMBER IT CORRECTLY IN THIS INTERVIEW when mere posters at liberal websites can?

Unbelievable! (sorry it this is a dupe -- I am so upset at hearing that misrepresentation I can't quit trembling long enough to check)
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:34 PM
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1. He actually has the nads to tell us
to get over it..bastard
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:38 PM
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3. I can't believe you are the only one who responded to this
It is outrageous beyond belief. But thanks for your words.

I have heard a lot of misrepresentations about a lot of things recently - but this truly wins the prize. These things are all a matter of record - and Scalia knows that. How can a Supreme Court judge who was instrumental in the unraveling of the 2000 election get it wrong? How? Or was it a deliberate lie?

And if he can openly make such an egregious error on the MSM, what else has he had the audacity to misrepresent?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:37 PM
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2. It's not a matter of not remembering it correctly - it is a matter of the
Insidious nature of so many modern day Repugs that they lie through their tteth.

As a progressive pundit said on the Bill Maher show a week or two ago - "I wouldn't trust the neo cons to tell me the correct time!"
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:40 PM
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5. I am truly stunned
And it takes a lot to stun me in the area of politics. I still can't believe he so nonchalantly said this. I truly cannot believe it.

Thanks for your comment.
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guyanakoolaid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:38 PM
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4. "History", "Truth", and "Facts" are merely commodities bought, manipulated, &sold by neocon assholes
I can't wait until Scalia's term is over.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:42 PM
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6. It appears that must be the answer
but it's still beyond belief to me that a United States Supreme Court judge could sit in an interview and openly make such an egregious misrepresentation. I am beyond appalled.

Thanks for your comment.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:45 PM
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7. Fat Tony is part of the RW Slime Machine.
Repeat the lies, repeat the lies, repeat the lies over and over again and soon it becomes the accepted truth. What do you think he talks about with that other pig, Cheney, on their hunting trips? How to "catapult the propaganda."
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:48 PM
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9. But it was still pretty egregious for him to say
even if one accepts your premise as a given.

I am starting to calm down a little now, but I am truly, truly stunned. I guess I need to quit saying that.

Are you not a little surprised at the sheer audacity of this?

Thanks for your comment.

Sam
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:57 PM
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12. I Wish Scalia Would Go on More Hunting Trips With Cheney
I'd even be willing to chip in on the :beer::beer::beer:

http://www.toonedin.com/cheney.html
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:20 PM
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14. Thanks for the smile
I guess the difference between Cheney and Scalia is that Cheney uses traditional firearms to shoot people, while Scalia shoots people with his mouth. It was a shot Al Gore did not and does not deserve. I hope Scalia's judicial foot is somehow extracted from his mouth before he goes on his next MSM interview.

Thank you for your comment and the link to the video.

Sam
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:47 PM
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8. You are correct Samantha!
I wonder why none of the media is correcting this "mistatement" .
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:55 PM
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10. The media cannot comment on this gross misrepresentation
because it's too busy covering Reverend Wright. It needs to get out of Barack Obama's church and resume reporting the news.

How did this get overlooked?

Thanks for your comment.
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NoBushSpokenHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:30 PM
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11. The "Republican Media" almost ALWAYS ignores the lies
and tears down the Democratic candidates who truly want to change status quo. I think it is time we renamed the media to the "Republican Media" because that is exactly what it is!
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:14 PM
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13. I realize this but often it is via such a small detail or a twisting of a
word to create a sensationalized version of an ordinary statement.

In this case, it is so blatant because the principal is a Supreme Court Judge discussing what is often referred to as one of its worst opinions in its history in a matter religiously followed by millions of Americans. This is not a small detail or a twist of a word. This is a monumental mistake made by someone who obviously should not have made it on a subject of great importance, a judicial record of which is readily available.

In my book, it's a mistake so huge I cannot characterize it in mere words. I remain appalled. Judging by many of the responses here, one should not be surprised by anything Scalia does, but this is breathtaking - even for him.

Thank you for response.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:56 PM
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15. Yeah - let me tell you how much I LUVVED this asshole's snarky "get over it" comment.
Well, keep on tryin', fat tony. I, for one, will NEVER GET OVER IT.

And thanks to you, the rest of America will probably never get over the damage of it.

What a pompous, arrogant, tin-plated prick.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:29 PM
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18. Well said, calimary
I believe in your words you have even outdone the well-respected Mary Lyon. Kudos to you for your unabashed verbal portrait of our not-so-supreme Justice who sits on the highest court in the land.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:22 PM
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22. Yeah, he's sat on the highest court in the land alright. And FLATTENED it.
:hi: Samantha!
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:51 PM
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27. I NEEDED that laugh!
THANK YOU!
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:52 PM
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21. My response to the chunky fascist: Don't like the criticism?
Well, GET USED TO IT.
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:59 PM
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16. Well, the Supremes said they were not setting a precedent.
In other words, they promptly forgot the whole thing.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:32 PM
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19. And every lawyer who read those words laughed out loud
That was a "special" wording adopted just for the "special" situation - a Judicial intervention to throw a Presidential election. And the "legal reasoning" cited therein was just as laughable as that caveat.
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:40 PM
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24. That SCOTUS decision was incredible.
After making the worst ruling in the history of the court they then added the caveat that it could never be used as precedent. They committed the crime and issued themselves a pardon all in one neatly wrapped package (with a great big red Republican ribbon on it).
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:46 PM
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26. We are in total agreement, but you have a GREAT WAY of
phrasing it.

I am thinking the true "red ribbon" has manifested itself in the pure, raw profit the Republicans have reaped as a result of the theft of the 2000 election. Every middle class to low-income American is STILL PAYING for this theft as I type this post. Some have paid in loss of insurance, some in loss of jobs, some in loss of voting rights, some in loss of home, but most sadly, many in loss of life.

I knew when Bush* stole the election it was going to be bad. What I now know is that I truly did not realize the depth of "bad."

Will this Country ever recover? If you are optimistic, and think it might, how many decades will it take? Will we live to see it?

Sam
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:08 PM
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28. Thanks Sam.
You're pretty good with a phrase yourself. Optimistic...yes...but in the long term. Let's get some progressives on the Supreme Court and filibuster-proof majorities in congress.
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:45 PM
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17. No, I won't freakin' get over it...it's our DEMOCRACY you fucker.
And our sacred, fundamental right to vote and to have that vote counted accurately.
Fuckin' scum.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:37 PM
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20. I am really glad now I started this thread, if only in anger
It gave posters like you the opportunity to publicly announce their perception of this very small man. Well said, grannylib!!! I hope to hear more from you in the future.

Sam
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:34 PM
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23. This is the equivalent of Dick Cheney's "so" answer when
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 07:35 PM by Uncle Joe
asked about their piss poor standing with the American People regarding their job performance. Nether give a damn about the American People.

Thanks for the thread, Samantha.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:41 PM
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25. Thank YOU, Uncle Joe
Were you not a little surprised at the sheer audacity of this, even for Scalia? It's a day later, and I still cannot believe he made such an incredibly outrageous statement on the MSM. I guess he has NO shame.

Sam
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