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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:54 PM
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Hillary Supporters who saw his NAACP speech and concluded he is a good man. Check in.
I am sure I'm not the only one who was totally impressed by his speech.

I'm sure I'm not the only one who saw a message of inclusion not exclusion, tolerance not racism.

I'm, sure some of HRC supporters saw the same thing. If you're one of them those who changed their minds, please let me know.

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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:56 PM
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1. on board!!!!
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:57 PM
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2. Thank you Oleladylib.
I am truly thankful.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 08:59 PM
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3. Anyone else?!!
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:05 PM
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4. I saw a couple today.
I think many more feel that way but wont admit it for fear of giving up their bludgeon.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:06 PM
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5. I was not appalled nor impressed by his speech. I was concerned
at the idea that African Americans think differently than Americans of other races. I did not think very highly of that concept.

Otherwise, he was as I thought he was.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:09 PM
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6. IS this all what you saw out of his speech?!! Could that be all what you've heard?!
What did you think he was?!!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:29 PM
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9. Well. I did not say that. What I said was that I was troubled by that part of it
leads to inherent "differences" which leads to racism.

I never said that was "all I saw out of that speech." But, go ahead. Look for reasons to hate me if that makes you feel better.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:51 PM
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13. Hate you?! I don't hate you.. Why would I hate you!! What do I know of you as a person other than
"Evergreen Emerald", a nickname on DU? It doesn't give me the right to hate you.

Same thing goes for Wright. What do you know of him other than snippets to hate him, or to conclude that he is a racist, or whatever negative Ideas you have about him?!!

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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:12 PM
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15. its not racist, the differences, are socially constructed...
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:27 PM
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18. That is not what he said
He said that people of African descent that have been born and raised in America by American parents learn the same as those in Africa.

That does not sound like socialization.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:47 PM
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22. He was speaking about a research findings. Take it with the ones who conducted the research.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:11 PM
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7. wow...you need to do some reading girl.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:35 PM
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19. Does it bother you that southern Americans think differently than
other Americans? That New England fishing communities would find Taos unbelievably exotic, and visa versa? Are you silly enough to claim they are NOT different?

This is not a McDonalds country, no matter how much the corporations want to make it so. There are distinctly different cultures within the US - not to mention distinctions within those cultures.

Of COURSE black america is different than white america. Even today, there are black americans who knew people in their own lifetimes who were born in slavery.

Know what? Latino america is different than white america, too. And Mexican america is different than Cuban america.

Different cultures think differently. Only an idiot would be surprised to learn that.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:16 PM
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8. One last kick.. I'm sure there are more.
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ImpeechBush Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:38 PM
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10. Impressive. What's that, two?
Wright did not do Obama any favors with his speeches. In fact, I'm not sure he did anyone anywhere any favors except maybe himself in attracting a great deal of attention.

He is an incredibly effective speaker. But the crackpot theories he is carrying about brain development hail back to the kind of tripe that came out of The Bell Curve. Don't you see the destructive path that leads to? If people of different races have different brains, it becomes a massive excuse for treating people differently. And who do you think wins that one? Certainly not black people. What is the impact for affirmative action if an employer can discriminate against black applicants because they have "African brains" and are therefore less competent in logic? These are arguments that have been used by the most bigoted elements of America. I'm sure if you google "blacks have different brains" you will come up with a number of references to Stormfront and the most odious racist scum on the planet. And here's Wright actually legitimizing their contention by saying there is a genetic basis for racial differences in intellectual performance. Sorry but I'm not buying it.

On the other hand, it isn't Obama saying these ridiculous things. He should be forcefully condemning them, and maybe we are going to see that now.

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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:56 PM
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14. You have to look at him overall. Isn't most of what he says was said over and over again over here.
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ImpeechBush Donating Member (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:09 AM
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24. I don't recall any discussion of separate racial brain development here
or anyone claiming black kids crawled on desks while white kids sat in their seats but maybe I missed it.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:41 PM
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11. I watched Rev. on TV every Sunday...long before I heard about Obama.
Wright is a decent, good, intelligent, and insightful person. He can go over the top at times. But anyone who knows him knew that he was not going to allow the media to swiftboat him. Most all of his sermons are firey and critical of the US government, especially the Bush administration.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 09:45 PM
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12. and for that we applaud his honest interpretation!
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:12 PM
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16. One day Wright will go down in history and the shame will be on the media I feel.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 10:13 PM by barack the house
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:14 PM
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17. He says nothing MLK wouldn't of done, and did so against Vietnam.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 10:15 PM by barack the house
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Mudoria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:40 PM
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20. I wasn't impressed to be honest.
Edited on Mon Apr-28-08 10:41 PM by Mudoria
However, I do hope he keeps his face on TV and in the news over the next week before the primaries in Indiana and NC.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:49 PM
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23. "do hope he keeps his face on TV and in the news " Why?!!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-28-08 10:42 PM
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21. Rev. Wright is very impressive.
But he scares some of the white people with his preaching style...which is unfortunate.
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