My reaction to 9/11 was just the same as Wright's

[ProfessorPlum]

I looked at the TV screen that morning, and I felt anger - an unfocused anger - not towards the people who had perpetrated the crime and died in doing it - but anger towards the people in power who had failed to stop it - anger at the people in power who had played with the lives of people in the Middle East like they were not worth a dime - people who had armed and profited from arming both sides of a war between Persia and Mesopotamia - and anger at the way this would be exploited.

I saw in that smoking column everything laid out, past and future - the way the world had been mangled, and how nothing good would come of it.

Had I a crowd of people listening to me on that day, or the days soon following it, I think my words would have been very angry. At the stupidity, the futility, the arrogance, the ignorance.

[Skittles]

1. I felt the same way

and I was SHOCKED when supposedly 90% of Americans rallied around that evil bastard piece of SHIT "president" :puke:

[KaryninMiami]

2. Me too- and after Katrina- I was saying and thinking- God Damn America

If I lived in Chicago, I'd attend Rev. Wright's church - at least once in a while (and by the way, I'm Jewish). I think he's brilliant, inspiring and- ok- a bit self obsessed but the media is just destroying Obama over this. Even Keith O-- enough already.

[hannybal]

7. I was thinking, "God damn the terrorists"

For some strange reason, call me unpatriotic, when I saw those bodies fall from the WTC and disintegrate upon impact, on my way home from the Borough of Manhattan Community College, I felt angry about whoever blew up the towers.

[ProfessorPlum]

14. That's just the way you were SUPPOSED to feel!

Congratulations.

[nichomachus]

48. A lot of people had similar simplistic thoughts

which is understandable -- but the attacks didn't happen in a vacuum. They were part of a decades-long series of actions, many of which we were responsible for.

See, over the years there were many people in the Mideast who witnessed similar horrors to what you saw -- seeing their homes blown up and loved ones murdered by American jets or with munitions marked "Made in America."

[mac2]

12. I was thinking god damn those Neo Cons!!

I knew who did it and why right away since they've been screaming for war in Iraq for some time. The Bush family are all about war and oil...Ponzi schemes. 911, Shock & Awe and Katrina was the most criminal and horrendous of them all.

Don't blame a whole country for the evil of a few criminals. God does not damn countries nor should you be judge and jury.

[ProfessorPlum]

20. Don't you think that by "America", he/she meant

not her neighbors and friends, but our imperialistic government? I'd think that goes without saying, but I'm just saying it, you know?

[mac2]

24. No it was to include everyone in this country.

[ProfessorPlum]

25. Riiiiiiight. Because he was blaming all of his friends and neighbors

in Chicago for what the Bush Crime Family was up to.

Makes sense.

[mac2]

29. No his circle were blameless.

[ProfessorPlum]

32. "his circle"? Do you mean all of the Americans who weren't busy

warmongering and warprofiteering and pitting factions of poor Middle Easterners against each other and growing rich from the bloodshed?

[mac2]

3. Rev. Farrakhan was right too.

He dared to say it first. Now he is sick and not able.

Many Americans question the story of 911. Obama says he won't investigate it. It was a mandate of the 2004 election. Guess that means little to the Congress.

[LakeSamish706]

4. Well there in lies a problem IMO...

"not towards the people who had perpetrated the crime and died in doing it - but anger towards the people in power who had failed to stop it"

If the experts are correct, they might be one and the same.

[Olney Blue]

5. America's chickens..... have come home to roost.

How is that not true?

[ProfessorPlum]

8. Yes, and the media is so delighted to try to catch Obama in this

it is a true statement, but they know and they know he knows that he cannot pretend that this particular true statement is true. Because in this United States, speaking the truth about some things is Verboten.

They'd better be careful, though. They are playing with fire by pushing people on whether this is true or not.

[mac2]

42. Plenty of people speak the truth but they are ruled as being

unpatriotic.

How about this truth.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/29/opinion/29herbert.html?em&ex=1209614400&en=59c5fed4ddb08cac&ei=5087%0A

[truedelphi]

9. Maybe that is not true in certain circles wherein

Ameria is believed to always be above blame.

[Yossariant]

6. Appears dry humping the pulpit during the sermon is a real stress reliever.

The kids cheer and applaud.

:mad:

[ProfessorPlum]

27. ???????

I do advocate dry humping as a stress reliever, though, if people are so inclined.

[Yossariant]

31. You oughtta try it in Church, like Wright -- where you have an audience and

while you're endorsing Obama.

[ProfessorPlum]

34. You make it sound so . . . . .dirty

:)

[Yossariant]

37. FOX's video gives a more accurate picture.

:)

[Moochy]

40. Fox ... More Accurate

Hillary Supporter? Yep.

[crankychatter]

10. Blow Back

Career intelligence professionals from the WHOLE POLITICAL SPECTRUM

agree with

Reverend Wright

[cliffordu]

11. Me too.

[Swamp Rat]

13. Same here.

[Iwasthere]

15. Me too

More need to state this same sentiment. You know I also was happy to see Cafferty today, on air, say the reason Bin Laden attacked us was simply because we were on the land over there, NOT because they hate our freedom or anything else. Seldom do you see that out there. It is soooo true. He just wanted us out of there, off of their land(s). * ignored the warnings. Now we are opening new cans of worms all the time. And it appears HC is wanting to carry on with the occupations. Bitch!! She is so done. "Obliterate" errr,, bye bye hillary

[Lint Head]

16. I knew it was Bin Laden did it the moment I heard that it had happened.

Bin Laden was well known prior to 9/11. All you had to do was watch fucking Frontline. You didn't have to be in the damn CIA to know what happened. From the minute the giant Buddhas were blown up I knew we were next. :dem:

[mac2]

26. Not me.

Bin Laden did not do it. The FBI even admitted they had no evidence. Ashcroft lied about the "terrorists". None were listed on the passenger lists. Some are even alive (which the FBI also admitted).

Bin Laden was sick in a cave on a kidney machine. He didn't have the information or the ability to order a stand down.

Bin Laden got $40 million just prior to 911. It was for drug control but was exactly the amount Bush lost of his money in a failed oil deal. He was a Bush family friend and CIA operative. He fought the Russians in Afghanistan and won. Bin Laden said he didn't do it right after the attack. I believe it was not him but an inside job. Who profited but Bush. He was under stress for stealing the election, etc. There was a gold robbery at the WTC too. Investigations, testimony, and documents of 911 were withheld by Bush and Cheney. Da!

[nolabels]

44. For about 6 weeks i kind of believed the lie about the guys with razors.

Intent and or motive does not equate to action. It's actually a simple mathematical equation that people want to find reason not to believe.
I think this current election might even expose the real culprits that have motive AND the wherewithal :-)

[candelovsky]

51. It's possible he didn't do it

We have not seen video tapes of Bin Laden since December, 2001. It's possible he was shot dead so that he won't deny the allegations.

[barack the house]

17. Yes, the simple factor is nukes and bombs don't create friends. Obama is our solution.

[newmajority]

18. My reaction was a little different

I wasn't thinking "God Damn America". I was thinking "God Damn the Bush Crime Family".

And that's still what I think of it. Because even if you accept the "official" story, as ridiculous as it is, Al Qaeda was a Bush Crime Family creation. There is absolutely no scenario in which they are not ultimately responsible for what happenned :grr:

[ProfessorPlum]

23. I think our reactions were exactly the same

I never felt "God Damn America" - just the clueless criminals that control it. And so, I would venture to guess, did Rev. Wright.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

and God damn Dick Cheney

perpetrator

[MadMaddie]

19. And Just like Rev Wright you would have been labled

UnAmerican and a sympathizer of the attackers.

Freedom of Speech under the Reichwing is only afforded to NeoCon supporters, not those that question the propaganda that has been spoon fed to the public for the last 25 years. The last 7 years have been the culimination of the Neocons conspiracy to destroy Ameria and the middle class.

We all are thinking the same thing, but the media has been corrupted to the point of facism, the Pentegon has been manipulating the media.......and it goes on.

[theoldman]

21. There was a reason why the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor

and there was a reason why the Arabs attacked the US. You would have to be a total ignoramus not to understand this.

[mac2]

28. Both were for Empire is what I understand.

[dbmk]

45. I really don't think the japanese attack was ideologically based

But merely a strategic choice, to gain advantage from taking the first step in finally escalating the brewing confrontation to a war.

[Hepburn]

22. Same here...and when I learned of the DPB of August 2001 that * ignored....

...I hated him even more than I thought possible when 911 happened. The same went for Condi Rice and any asshole in DC who played both sides of this situation. They were at fault for stiring the fucking pot of hatred and anger.

[Bongo Prophet]

30. IIRC, the first speech after 9-11 was the "chickens coming home/psalms 1:37" sermon

And the main theme was that we should not lash out against innocents in our anger.
It was excellent.

The "GD America" sermon was in 2003.


Not to diss your point, but just as a point of information.

[ProfessorPlum]

33. No kidding? I did not know that.

Thanks for the information.

[crankychatter]

35. I'm laughin' - The Good Rev sure got a bunch of Agnostic Liberals scurrying to their Bibles

ya'all are funny

[mac2]

41. Agnostic Liberals? Are there Agnostic Conservatives?

Riligion does not belong in politics unless you are a RWer.

[annm4peace]

36. Me to. "I thought it has finally happened"

I sat there in shock and unable to stop watching the TV, but knew it related to America's Empire building and the suffering of people in other countries due to US policies.

I'm glad he said it, others have also.

In all 3 speeches given in the last 4 days, I thought Rev Wright has spoken more truth than any of th candidates, then of the pope (Im Catholic).

I said God Damn our Government, when we suffered with through Energy Crisis.

I said God damn us for letting them take us to war.

And I said God DAmn and heaven help us when we all didn't start riots to get help for those in the Gulf Coast.

[dailykoff]

38. He's practically a bushbot compared to what actually occurred.

What you saw on 911 was two gigantic and unprofitable asbestos liabilities transformed via {not allowed to say it here} into a neocon political bonanza.

And you know what? That's exactly what it looked like.

[ruby slippers]

39. I was just thinking that I wanted to hide wherever Cheney was hiding.....

but Florida was under martial law by then. Jeb made sure except he declared it two days too early. He got in trouble at Thanksgiving dinner for that.....

[frickaline]

43. I wouldn't have recommended that, he's got a bad habit of shooting the people next to him

[futureliveshere]

46. Spot On!!! This is exactly what I felt. "In fact chickens coming home to roost" says it very well!!

[Carni]

47. Gee, all I thought was that bush had F'd things up...

However...I don't recall my thoughts running to "God damn America and the KKK white people" at that particular juncture, but hey that's just me!

[ProfessorPlum]

49. the condemnation is for the leadership of America

but you knew that, of course.

[Carni]

50. Oh no...you're so F'ing clever

That I think you need to explain it to me...please feel free to use jugglers, mimes, clowns, bongos, puppets, bongs... or whatever leftover 1960's shit that you might have left hanging around to do so.

I will be hanging on your every word (not so much)

[EFerrari]

52. On 9/11, I woke up with a concussion.

My mentally ill family member had flipped out the night before, slammed me up against a wall and left the house with my purse.

He had no insurance and we'd had a ten year ordeal to try to get some health care for him.

I didn't have any insurance either, so I hadn't gone to the hospital the night before. I just went to bed.

That morning, since I had no purse, I up-ended the sofa cushions to find loose change for cigarettes. Then, I drove to the gas station to buy my cancer sticks and watched the second plane slam on the teevee near the register.

I went home and got an ice bag for my head and just sat there, watching. I didn't feel surprised in any way, just angry, too, as the OP describes. And, tired, too, and frightened. Because Bush\Cheney were in the White House and because we knew going in, they were criminals.

Maybe that's why I don't hear Jeremiah Wright that way many DUers do. I was born here but have always been a part of an ethnic minority, I know the history of the empire, I have few illusions about what politicians can do v. what people can do working together for social justice. I am biased.

[Honeycombe8]

53. But that's not what Wright was saying. Wright was saying America was directly responsible...

not in failing to prevent it, but by doing things to cause it.

I understand the argument that our policies caused those terrorists to do the deadly act....and it's true that some of our policies and past behavior caused that group to become angry. But that does not mean we caused the deadly act.

Those terrorists are directly responsible for murdering innocent people.

As it is with all terrorism....the killing of innocent people is never justified because you're mad at someone else. The loony McVeigh thought he had a valid reason to blow those children in the OK federal bldg up...and there was a reason for people to be upset with a dept. of the govt.

What Wright said is, as Obama said, something that feeds people who feed on hate. And it's not true.

Wright strings together thoughts that are unrelated and illogical, weaving into the thoughts half truths and possible untruths. It's a common hatemongering tactic I've seen used by white supremicists and other people who "hate" and try to convince others their reasons for hurting others are justified.

American pastors come to Americans with love in their hearts, or so I thought. Wright is not mainly a pastor, it seems to me. He's more an activist these days, who happens to have been a pastor in his former life.