I will not vote for "Them"

[goclark]

I'm African American and I've never considered being anything other than a Democrat!

Yes, I can see myself voting for all the others on the ticket(Senators,local Reps) if she/her husband were to be the nominee.

But, I will not vote for THEM under any conditions.

THEY have stomped on everything that I have ever believed about the Democratic party.

As far as my people are concerned, the Democratic party has always been our rock!
And there should be no one on the planet that does not know that the African American voters put THEM in the WH and kept THEM from being kicked out of office.


I will get out and support other Democrats. No matter what ~ I am/was a committed and loyal Democrat.

However,I will not vote for " THEM."

That is a huge part of my decision!
I strongly believe that we should not have a former President be a Co-President under any conditions.

I will not vote for THEM
I will not contribute money to the party for THEM
I will not encourage members of my community to vote for THEM
I will not volunteer to get out the vote for THEM.

Our votes did not count for GORE in FLORIDA

Our votes did not count for KERRY in OHIO

If THEY are the nominee, our VOTES will not be counted again but for a different reason.....

I suspect that my people will be way too angry to push the button beside THEIR name.

[DemVet]

1. You mean Obama?

[jefferson_dem]

2. No. The OP surely means the cretin you are sporting as your avatar idol.

[DemVet]

11. cretin...how classy.

[0007]

5. C'mon man why are YOU being so twit like?

[goclark]

23. Obama would be running alone, not with a Co Nominee

[WeDidIt]

3. An African American Man wins the most Pledged Delegates

Wins the most popular votes.

Wins the most contests.

Follows the rules

Wins by every measure, and yet is still denied the prize?

That would be a major statement from the Democratic PArty to the African American community that African Americans are somehow less than White Americans.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. The Democratic Party needs to be careful how it treats the African American community

if the Dem Party imposes Clinton When Obama is clearly ahead there will be trouble.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. And that trouble will span all races.

It's not an AA problem, it's a fairness problem.

Fortunately, it'll never happen.

[goclark]

53. Please be right RUMMYis FROSTED

All we are saying is "Be Fair" with the American people.

We should not have to beg the Democratic nominee to Be Fair to any of us.

If that's the way THEY HILL/BILL, are treating us now, what would they do when THEY get in power. :scared:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

59. I'm right on this one.

Bookmark it! :internetbrave: :)

[goclark]

42. If I may speak for the African Americans that I know

and they are all committed and loyal Democrats, I would define the trouble this way.

The majority of African American voters are supporting Obama.
Some Clinton supporters want to push the card that says we are doing it solely because he is African American.

That is laughable to many of us...

We are supporting him because he is reaching out to people of ALL races,economic levels and the young people. He is NOT trying to court our vote. If you notice, he is rarely seen speaking or talking to an all African American audience. He does not give us any special promises. He doesn't give us anything that he does not give his supporters of other races.

That's what we love about Obama. We don't ask for special treatment, we want our country to be better than it is now. We want our country to be inclusive and that is what we thought the CLINTONS wanted too.

:cry:

He doesn't have to court our vote in any special way.
He didn't take our vote for granted,like the CLINTONS. He worked to earn our individual votes the same way he worked to earn the votes of all his supporters.


If anyone else was in the running(Biden,Edwards,Gore,Kerry,Edwards etc.) and they treated us with dignity and did not try to divide us and divide this country along racial,economic lines -- we would have been hard pressed to vote for Obama in such large numbers. Hard pressed.

Look at the numbers,there were huge numbers of us voting for The CLINTONS early on because we thought they respected us.

Have you ever had a friend that you believed loved you and they turned and washed your face in the old dirty mud?

That's how it feels.

It's like they stuck a knife in our hearts in SC and they just keep sticking it day after day after day after day.

First we were in shock, then denial now it is simply anger.

It's like a divorce, that's how it feels. Someone you loved so much tells you they don't love you anymore.

[knixphan]

100. Right on!

[mattclearing]

9. I made this point a month or so ago. It is still true.

Hillary seems to think that she can somehow wrest the nomination from Obama in this fashion and still expect the votes of black Democrats. That is the number one reason why she should have dropped out by now...even if she manages to get the nomination, half the party will walk out on her and she will assuredly lose.

[oviedodem]

13. There are approx 38 million AA's in the US if 20% don't show up; Hillary will not win.

[seriousstan]

17. How many are voting age and how many of those vote? If 20% show up, I'd be surprised.

[redstate_democrat]

36. So you're doubting the power of the AA vote?

Funny, people like you always depend on the AA vote to push your candidate over the edge in key states that Clinton claims we need to win like Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Marlyand, Washington D.C., Wisconsin, etc, basically ALL of the Blue states.

I can't wait to see (IF she is the nominee) how she pulls it off. And of course more than 20% of voting AAs show up to the polls. I suggest you do at least a minimum of research before you begin spouting off your mouth about things you know absolutely nothing about.

[goclark]

62. Thank you redstate_democrat

Her supporters are ready to kick our votes to the curb.

That is not fair and they are exibiting her political traits.

[WeDidIt]

14. I am not an African American

but if the Democratic Party takes this away from Obama after he wins it under the rules as they were when the first contest was held, I cannot see how I can ever trust anybody or anything connected to the Democratic Party ever again.

[mattclearing]

16. You can't trust the Party entirely.

I trust the progressive wing. The DLC wing is just Republican Party Democratic Annex.

[kenny blankenship]

52. It would be the end of the Democratic Party

and knowing that for a fact is what makes me believe it won't happen. The Super Delegates won't want to destroy their own political careers and futures.

I am astonished that certain people hereabouts would be asking for the Party to link arms and throw itself off a cliff for a person as widely distrusted and disliked as Hillary Clinton (unfavorables stuck at over FIFTY percent, viewed as fundamentally untrustworthy by close to SIXTY percent!)

[roguevalley]

61. if anyone out there believes that the party and the country will vote

for Hillary if they take an honest win away from Obama, then they haven't been paying attention. The last two presidential elections were STOLEN. This would be the same pure and simple. Hillary needs to understand something very simple: when you start a race, if you lose, YOU LOSE. There are no do overs. There are no other arguments. IF YOU LOSE, GO HOME!

Anything else would make us THEM. Why people can even ENTERTAIN the NOTION that she gets the nomination on some bogus electibility issue over the WINNER is BULLSHIT.

AND, don't think for a minute that the people will vote for a dickhead that didn't outright win the election. Won't happen. She needs to grow a conscience.

[reflection]

77. Assuming it plays out as expected,

with Obama holding a lead (however slight) in all the important stats, I agree. There just has to be a sense of fairness about this. This white guy thinks giving HRC the nod under those circumstances would be 1) wrong, and 2) *real* bad for race relations in general. Obama will have inarguably earned the nomination.

For what it's worth, I also reject the unelectability issue on Obama. He comes in with low negatives, a pre-generated buzz (like anyone who is a pioneer candidate), and frankly, I think as we draw closer to the election, enough people will gravitate to his endearing personality and natural charm that they will cancel out the ignorant racist vote.

Even if you are an HRC supporter who thinks that Obama is an empty suit, I think you would have to admit Obama would be an easier sell to an American Idol-watching country.

[goclark]

50. And they would still expect the votes of Democrats that are White

and just on this Board,it is not just African Americans that feel that way.

We are not the only hurt and disappointed people on DU.

But THEY don't care.

They appear not to possess the CARE GENE and that is the least that we should expect after 8 years of Bush in the WH.

[goclark]

55. What you are saying is sad but so true nt

[goclark]

26. Thank you for understanding

why there is concern over this issue.

Seems the BAR just keeps moving and the dirty tricks keep on churning.

This is not the Democratic party that I loved. :cry:

[seriousstan]

4. "My" people think "your" people are fools.

Since I don't own any people I am only talking about my personal opinion. How many people do you own?

[LibraLiz1973]

7. That MY people statement in the OP was ridiculously sad

And which candidate is it that is accused of actively playing the race card??? Clinton.

[mattclearing]

12. I'll trust black people to know who played the race card.

They left in droves because Hill and Bill baited them. They wanted to make Obama the black guy, and they got their wish.

[goclark]

30. Please read my response ~ Yes "My People" is the correct term

For those that wish to keep their eyes and ears wide shut , step on out and let us know your true feelings.

I will do a circle email to all of my African American Brothers and Sisters -- they are "My People."

Thanks for inspiring me... I will put that in the Subject Line that will reach thousands of African American voters within a week.

Remember, we had an Underground Railroad and now the internet is our railroad.

Thanks :bounce:

[ampad]

69. Hey this AA doesn't find

"My people" insulting. When I was growing up my family would often call fellow AA brother and sister. Those who want to use that comment as a straw man argument need to STFU.

I stand with you Goclark she does not get my vote. Other AA that I know such as family and friends say the same. There is no way they would vote for her if the party makes it look like Obama needed to take a back seat. There was a point in time when I had no problem voting for her. After SC that went out the window and that is how most of my friends and family felt. When it came out she was going around telling Super D's that Obama could not win because he is black and then she had the nerve to stand on the balcony that MLK took his last breaths, well that really done it for me. Some of her supporters spreading veiled hate and racism really surprised me. I was one of those people that would say "My party is the party of progressive the repigs house the racist" Oh was I wrong.

[crankychatter]

81. all my Jewish friends use the same term "my people"...

it also means family

I use it too

[goclark]

22. Read my response on the thread

I will make it plainer,,,,,, My People = My African American Family

If you happen to have African American friends you will hear them us the term "Hello, My Brother- Hello My Sister."

It's difficult to believe that anyone on a progressive Democratic Board would not know that but...

Thanks ~ I'll send this link to my "Brothers and Sisters" and have them do a circle email and I'll get back to you. :bounce:

[Voltaire]

27. Just ignore them. Ignorance is Bliss for the Clintonistas

As part of your African American Family, I salute you for your post.

[goclark]

34. Right you are and I'm just delighted that you are a family member

:hug:

[redstate_democrat]

38. You're an ass.

FREEPER!

[SeattleGirl]

80. What an idiotic thing to say.

That is NOT what the OP meant by saying "my people", and you might know that if you spent any amount of time around blacks.

I live in a racially mixed neighborhood, and I hear "my people", "my sister," and "my brother" all the time. It doesn't mean those who say that think they OWN others (and I bet you know that, but choose to ignore it). It's a means of expressing community and solidarity.

If you want to get your knickers in a twist about that, well, I feel sorry for you, because you just don't get it.

[leftofcool]

6. Who are "your" people and do you speak for all of them?

[goclark]

18. I am not speaking for 100 % of my people but I talk to enough

of them and volunteer with enough of them to understand how they feel.
Black Media is not on your radar screen but it is on mine.

WE are angry and we are hurt.

I'm in a much better position that you are to understand the feelings of my people.

(In case you don't wish to understand the expression "my people" it is a term that we treasure. I believe that it started in Slavery. For those that are seek to understand, it is a term that we use for our Extended FAMILY of ALL African Americans.)

Bash me if you wish but remember my words in November.

And when I see your post, I will email it to all of MY PEOPLE on my contact list and have them email it to all of their friends and circle it around until I reach enough to make sure they understand the level of hate that may be against us.

Thanks for inspiring me to do that :bounce:

[Texas Hill Country]

19. sure, because there aren't more productive ways to get things to change....

[lukasahero]

10. "If you're not with us, you're against us"

How did it come to this?

Jesus wept.

[Texas Hill Country]

15. no kidding. and how did the Clintons get painted as racists... RIDICULOUS

[gabby garcia]

29. because they pose as racists

..those are the votes they're counting on.

[goclark]

54. It is so sad

I just never believed that it would turn out like this.

Never believed in a thousand years that THEY were not loyal Democrats.

[goclark]

20. Jesus wept I agree

It makes me want to cry too, :cry:

[peace13]

21. I feel your pain.

As a white person in Ohio who had her vote stolen, I feel your pain. As a white person who admires Obama and works for his successful nomination, I feel your pain. I don't see this as black and white, I see this as people who are awake and aware who have a driven need to get this country the President that we need. I call Obama the President for the thinking person.

[BigDDem]

25. How was your "vote stolen?"

[WeDidIt]

28. The poster is probably referring to 2004 n/t

[peace13]

35. AAAA ...Ohio, SOS Blackwell and the destruction of cast ballots.

Google Ohio Election 2004

[goclark]

43. Thank you peace 13 ~ I needed that this morning

I want to believe that thinking people are color blind.

I want to believe that thinking people want this world to be a better place for our children and our children's children. Thinking people should want to set an example for all children and especially young voters.

I know that some thinking people may be Homeless and some may live in million dollar homes.

I know some thinking people that have never finished high school and some that have advanced degrees.

My precious cousin is 62 years old and he would be classified as Special Education.
He sent me an email the other day and said...

"I want to vote for Obama.
He like me and my kids and my grandkid."

This is one of the dearest people in the world to me.
He once told me....

When I was in Viet Nam, I was not afraid.
Whenever they started shooting at my group,the other soldiers would always say,Tommy ,what should we do!
They would be so afraid and I would always say, "Follow me" and they did.
We all came home alive,Cousin Gee, we all came home alive.

[peace13]

58. Thank you for this beautiful thread.

Your cousin is not only wise but brave. We will get through this thing together. Peace and love, Kim

[goclark]

70. Your words mean so much to me

:hug:
I was crying when I wrote what he said to me that day.

He is so wise and his life counts!

[grantcart]

31. Hopefully after this election it will only be US

[goclark]

44. Thank you grantcart, that is my hope too nt

[Uben]

32. How soon they forget

My oh my oh my!

[barack the house]

33. I'd argue otherwise but it is nothing but an injsutice if they do overturn their loyal base.

As in business always take careof regular customers, likewise voters.

[goclark]

45. You are so right and these regular customers

really have not asked much.

We have always put our hearts into our vote and our hearts are very heavy right now.

Please read some of my responses to other posts on this thread.

:hug:

[Bensthename]

37. Obama Vs Bill and Hillary

Who could have ever imagined a man mostly unknown just a few years ago has all but beaten the team of the former president and first lady/NY senator..

He didnt just beat Hillary or Bill.. They teamed up (of course since they are married). And he still beat them... 2 dem superstars against 1 semi-unknown dem.

Obama is amazing.

And no worries, MSM makes this look alot closer then it really is. Obama has this wrapped up.

[goclark]

46. Thank you Bensthename ~ I hadn't thought of it that way

He has been beating THEM!
And the MSM has just been naming HER.

Excellent point that gives another dimension to my original post.

That is what it would be like for any VP on a ticket with THEM.

The VP would have to answer to two bosses instead of one.


:hug:

[TexasObserver]

39. 36 years I have been loyal to this party, but if she steals it, I'm done.

In all my years in this party, I have not seen anything as despicable as the Hillary campaign since George Wallace did the same thing in 1972: actively worked to split the party on racial issues, to help the Republican nominee win it.

I never want to see her hold a position of power in this party again. Give her the smallest office in the senate office buildings, strip her of all her committee assignments and give her crap assignments where she can do little harm, and shun her the balance of her term representing NY state. Then beat her in the primary of 2012 with a real Democrat for the senate.

[goclark]

47. Thank you TexasObserver

And you would think THEY would have learned that in Texas,the ROVE dirty tricks did not go in our favor.

Now they are doing the tricks on their own party.

It is not to be believed!

[TexasObserver]

73. And we finally have a chance to do some good in Texas ... if we have Obama.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

40. Neither will I. K&R

[liberaldem4ever]

41. I think that the HRC people

are assuming that all Dems are going to "fall in line" if she manages to take the nomination from Obama. I think they are making an enormous miscalculation. HRC has alienated way too many Dems with her dirty corrupt campaign against Obama. I have talked to a lot of people who don't consider her any better than McCain since they both voted for the war in Iraq (just one of many things) and if she is nominated they will not vote for her under any circumstances. There is nothing she can say to change their minds since they can't trust her because of her lies she has told. I really believe that she will lose the GE and we will get President McCain if she gets the nom.

[goclark]

48. I totally agree, "trust" is important to me

Fool me once but don't think you will fool me twice" is my motto.

THEIR (remember I consider them co-candidates BillHill) vote for the War and THEIR careless comment that was tossed out so recklessly about Iran sealed it for me.

[liberaldem4ever]

57. I think the obliterate Iran comment shocked a lot of people

We don't need another warmonger president of any party. Of course, the MSM did their best to ignore that little news from Hillary. They had more important things to report on, like lapel pins and pastors. :crazy:

[goclark]

68. Exactly ~ let's talk about "obliterate" for a few minutes

That is a Cheney statement if I've ever heard one and I have heard not a peep of "I'm sorry -- I misspoke."

[Tommy_Carcetti]

49. Funny thing about votes not counting in Florida....

.......

[newmajority]

51. I'll never vote for THEM again either

and I'm (mostly) Caucasian. I've known the truth about these DLC bastards for a long time, but now, their mask has been so completely removed by this campaign that even a blind man should be able to see them for exactly what they are.

[Kaylee]

56. I don't think the Hillary camp realizes that this sentiment is real...

and is growing among our community. Of my friends and relations, every single one of them has said that they will not vote for Hillary if she wrests the nomination away from Obama....including my 60+ year old parents. These are people who have never missed an election and see voting as a hard-won duty as an African American. And many are planning to leave the Democratic Party.

Hillary Clinton (and the Democratic Party) will be in for a rude surprise should she get the nom.

[goclark]

71. Kaylee that is what I'm hearing too

But of course, our thoughts don't seem to count with MSM and Rove.

And for sure they don't count with THEM.

I have written some other words up thread that you would agree with ...

[Freddie Stubbs]

60. THEM:

[goclark]

65. Thanks for the visual Freddie ~ seems like that

to me sometimes.

[NJObamaWoman]

63. THEM is Both the Repubs and Dem Party and its sickening

I don't like racism and I feel part of this party is truly showing their ugly colors. If thats the case than I can't/won't be apart of them.

[Yossariant]

64. Wa-ah! Wa-ah! Wa-ah!

:hurts:

[demo dutch]

66. Fine just realize you'll be voting for McCain. You think he will do anything for African-Americans?

As a non-voter you're not even giving the Dems a chance to recapture the WH! I don't like Obama, but if he's the nominee I will hold my nose and vote for him, because platforms of Hillary and Obama are similiar and simply because I think that this country can not take 4 more yrs of GOP leadership.

[NJObamaWoman]

67. To me thats a BS reason.

Hey maybe your a better person than I am. Thats fine but I don't take shit. HRC and her people have offended me. I'm not going to hold me nose because look what holding my nose has gotten the black community. More and more black men in prison, high rate of high school drop out, and now horrible police shotting. Repub, Dem whatever I find that real issues aren't being solved. If Americans continue to vote GOP its on them and eventually I'm probably move out of the country. I'm not happy with this Dem party and I need them to wake the hell up. If I don't vote than maybe someone who wants my vote will appeal to me. If enough people start doing the same thing than change will come.

Non voters aren't the problem. Its the people we have to vote for who are.

[demo dutch]

72. Sure, I'm not happy either the entire system needs to be overhauled., the

political system in the US is severely flawed in every aspect, we need proportional representation instead of winner take all. My senator has proposed to do away with the electoral college, and the only way this has a chance is with Dems in control. We're coming out of 8 terrible years, even since '06 the Dems had such a small majority that they have been blocked at every step. Unless we get a Dem majority in house, senate and the WH, change will not happen at all. I rather take baby steps than no steps at all. I don't want a 100 yrs in Iraq, I want health care and Plus the courts are important to me too. I think that if Hillary does get the nomination. we're dealing with subterranean racism and gender issues in this country and unfortunately this election will be crucial. I understand that you're angry, but pissed or not you have to be realistic! but unless you vote you'll get more of the same. It's going to take FDR politics to change what's going on!

[goclark]

76. You are so right however THEY are not FDR

and THEY can't even pay THEIR debts to the working class people that made posters and rented them office space etc.

And they have the nerve to talk about being concerned about "Working People!"

Oscar de la Renta is her idea of working class and that does not match what she claims to believe in.

She doesn't care about working class,civil rights,the Economy -has she paid off her campaign debts yet?

Just what she carelessly said about IRAN is enough to make the world know that they can expect more of the Bush Face if THEY are elected.

True leaders lead by example and THEY are not my idea of LEADERS for 2008.

By the way, in case you didn't see my original message, I will vote for the rest of the ticket,but Not THEM.

[demo dutch]

78. Sorry I will vote for the Dem nominee regardless and polls indicates that

the rest of the Dem in this country agree with me. The fact is that the Clinton platform is not much different that Obama's so I;m sticking to issues instead of getting distracted by personalities. If Clinton get the nomination I still think that her platform is better anytime over McCain. That said I understand that your angry, but don't let your anger stand in the way of "democratic" reform and do away with the policies of the past 8 years. The best thing would a joined ticket for the party at this point.

[goclark]

88. And what would that "joint" look like?

:crazy:

[demo dutch]

102. I don't really care, both are capable, so either way

[goclark]

75. NJObama woman ~ welcome to DU and you get my vote

That is what I am feeling as well.

I will not vote for THEM because if THEY are not Republicans it's mighty hard to tell the difference.

Bill is BFF with Bush I and recall how Bush I cozied up to Bill and invited him to go sailing etc.?

Then, Bill came out early talking about when Hillary was elected, he and Bush I would go on a Goodwill Tour as Ambassadors and "repair" the bad will from the current Resident.

Quick as a flash, Bush I put Bill in his place! Reminded Bill that Bush II did not need anyone to repair his image!

Made Bill look like a fool.

I say all that to say, THEY are either owned by the Bush Crime family or THEY are the MANCHURIAN CANDIDATES.

[goclark]

74. Having THEM would be 4 more years

of hate and division and BOMBING IRAN.

THEY are not level headed and they are have already informed us that "McCain has Experience, THEY have experience and Obama is only a Speech."

Add NC and all the other smears and ~ I will not VOTE for THEM.

THEIR platform is not what they believe or will do.

They will do whatever the Rethugs tell them to do, they have sold THEIR souls to BUSH,THEIR best buddy.

[crankychatter]

82. If Dem Party leadership corrupts the process and disrespects the membership

how would voting for that leadership secure ANYTHING for the rank and file?

[crankychatter]

79. This sentiment is universally echoed on every AA blog I can find

...

just sayin'

[goclark]

89. I believe it and I haven't even check any

African American blogs.

Not one~ I tried to stream,for the first time, to Joe Madision's stream today and it wouldn't work.

[crankychatter]

92. this is my favorite

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/

[goclark]

95. Thanks ~ I've never heard about it

:hug:

[crankychatter]

83. I'm a loyal Democrat... my whole (very long) life

and I have to say...

I may vote for clinton and even, blindly campaign for her... defending her with flame throwers...

but the truth? the truth is I sympathize with this sentiment... I'm in communication with the McKinney campaign...

because THIS TIME THEY HAVE GONE TOO FAR

it's so bad, I am not swearing any blood oaths of loyalty

I've been loyal on the LEFT longer, and remain MORE LOYAL THAN CLINTON

any damned day

[ccharles000]

84. The Clinton's love us all.

:hug:

[goclark]

90. Kidding right?

[ccharles000]

85. They love us all.

[cottonseed]

86. Reminds me of footage from Farenheit 9/11

The attempt by the house Democratic Black Caucus looking for just one signature from a US Senator. They were fighting for democracy. They were fighting for America. Not a single Senator signed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlgRvZMAt10

It starts at 3:45.

[goclark]

91. Thanks for sharing that ~ they were and always have been

loyal Democrats.

I'm not that loyal, not this season.

[StevieM]

87. Well then don't be too shocked if Clinton supporters don't flock to Obama if he wins

And I still don't get what people think happened in Ohio in 04. I know we were robbed in 2000 in FL. But what makes you think Kerry won?

Steve

[goclark]

93. Google Ken Blackwell and Kerry vote

You don't remember that one!

[Aloha Spirit]

94. Question for everbody--When did you first realize that there would be racial dissonance in the

primary? For me, it was when I first heard somebody say that "Obama needs to wait his turn."
I could feel the puke coming up my throat, and it's been there ever since.

[goclark]

96. Bill in South Carolina

I could not believe my ears!

[truth please]

97. When they started calling him stupid, I said

that's it. I am so sick of the empty suit shit. I said that if this black man that was head of the Harvard Law Review, that graduated magna cum laude, which the people who call him an empty suit must not know the meaning of can't be President then no black american can. Top that with he should wait his turn, he stammers or stutters his words (mind you the same people voted for a man that can't pronounce anything or put a sentence together.

[goclark]

99. Those are all good reasons why I can not vote for THEM

HillBill is the lead of the Mob for this stuff.

I can not vote for THEM and understand everyone that this is a "Two For One" Package that will destroy this country.

If THEY can destroy this election THEY can destroy this country and we can not let them do it.


A vote for THEM is a 3rd term for BILL to be President.
No way ~ get the visual.

OBAMA is a brilliant leader who has content in his character.

He has not said anything about either one of them that was not civil.

And THEY are doing a full court press to destroy him, not just because he is Black.
They would nail Jesus on the cross again to return to power.

Chelsea in 2016? No way! This is not England!!! Wake up America!

[ruby slippers]

98. wow, that is almost a poem you wrote...I can hear it now.....read on

I will not vote for them,
nor my money bestowed upon them.
Community, do not vote for them,
nor volunteer your hours.
Gore did not count, nor Kerry, nor me.
Do not vote for them,
nor push the button---fear
of crumbling rock of Dems.

Do not vote for them.

[Roxy66]

101. Take a break from all of this. Turn off the tube.

[SeaLyons]

103. Clinton supporters will be very pissed

if Obama get's the nomination.

[Texas Hill Country]

104. who is resurrecting old threads? lame