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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:49 PM
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If Hillary wins Indiana, is it game, set, match?
That would be Indiana, Pa, NJ, NY, Ca, NY, Arz, Mass and MI. Game over, isn't it?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:50 PM
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1. No, she's still behind in delegates and last time I checked thats what this race was about. n/t
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:50 PM
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2. Indiana wouldn't be enough
But Indiana plus North Carolina would mean the end of Obama's campaign.
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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:52 PM
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7. She would clearly have the popular vote if...
Florida and Mich. was counted. Why are Obama supporters so afraid of those states? And last I counted, Hillary still has the super delegate lead.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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19. Wrong.
She only has the popular vote only if "uncommitted" counts for nothing in Michigan. I'd love to hear how she explains throwing away their votes.

And she only has the popular vote if NC is a draw, which it is unlikely to be.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:55 PM
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20. YES! Let's add the results of a null election!
By the same merit, I think that any touchdown scored by a football team during its pre-game practice should count in the final score too.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:57 PM
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22. I've seen nothing that shows
she would have the popular vote lead if MI and FL were counted but feel free to post evidence to the contrary. In any case, Dean has said again and again it's the DELEGATE COUNT. Period.

Even with her 20 SD lead, Hillary still trails be a large margin in delegates.

More with the "Hillary Mathmatics" where only statistics where Hillary leads should be counted, right? Hillary is going to convention with less popular vote and less delegates.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:57 PM
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23. Is her name Hillary Stalin?
How else can you explain her supporters insane request to count results when her name was the only one on the ballot??

Also, this is a race for delegates, not the popular vote. There are four caucus states, that Obama won, that don't even report their popular vote. Why are you so scared of those states?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:58 PM
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24. I think political campaigns should be outlawed, don't you? It's only fair if candidates can't
campaign. Campaigning is really cheating.
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Voltaire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:39 PM
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35. Popular vote doesn't MATTER
Ask around!

The name of the game here is delegates. No matter how much and how often your candidate wants to change the rules.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:12 PM
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45. When you think about it...............
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 04:12 PM by Exilednight
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:53 PM
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10. Rev. Wright has put Hillary back into play in NC.(eom)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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13. Based on what??
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:12 PM
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28. Based on Rasputin Wright's recent rantings.(eom)
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:14 PM
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29. So it's based on your dislike of wright??
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:50 PM
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3. Current state count is 30 for Obama and 16 for Hillary.
My count says not.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:50 PM
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4. By how much?
Shes down on the scoreboard

She has to win 68%+ and then have Obama not get a single solitary vote in the last 5 primaries just to pull even
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:50 PM
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5. Excuse me while I say HUH?
Pre Independence America?
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:51 PM
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6. THE CONTEST IS ALREADY OVER. SHE HAS LOST.
She cannot catch up in pledged delegates.
The super delegates will not reverse the will of the voters.

IT IS OVER.

Obama is our nominee.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:52 PM
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8. yes...
if you are using the hillbot 3000 to do your calculations. On a real calculator, um, hell no!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:52 PM
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9. huh? How would you figure that her winning Indiana would make her the winner?
I'd love an answer. I can string up a bunch of states two. So what? How is she the winner if he still leads by over 125 pledged delegates and the pop vote? Inquiring minds and all that.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:53 PM
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11. You enjoy yourself.
And your delusions.

She's still losing.
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YEM Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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17. She's not losing.
She is winning the Superdelegate count and will have the popular vote when it's over.


Game. Set. Match.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:59 PM
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26. Are you delusional or simply mentally challenged?
You are certainly math challenged if you actually believe at this time that Hillary is not losing.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:16 PM
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41. I think the short bus just pulled up to his house. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:09 PM
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42. Yes,
she IS losing.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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12. Asinine
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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14. I was thinking this was a joke...
Wow.

Just... wow.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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15. No
Why do you (and other posters) keep acting like the democratic winner in a primary is going to automatically win or lose a state in the general? You think Obama is not going to win NY, NJ, CA, MA? Get real.

It's been game set match since Hillary failed to even come close to the numbers she needed in Ohio and Texas. Everything beyond that is just the death spasms of Hillary's campaign. Obama is going to convention with the popular and delegate vote lead. Unless Hillary can steal the nomination in back room deals, she has no chance.
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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16. I agree, I think that that IN-MI combo is a 1-2 knockout punch
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 12:55 PM by bobbert
edit: I am assuming this was a joke
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:54 PM
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18. No. The game is over despite what Hillary's campaign says or does.
It's the math plus the slow trickle of SDs to Obama which isn't stopping in spite of Rev. Wright.
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:56 PM
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21. Sure, if you want to destroy the party.
It's up to the superdelegates. None of these state contests really matter at this point.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 12:58 PM
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25. Only if she takes 75% of the popular vote. n/t
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:00 PM
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27. She still can't and won't win the nomination. She will still be behind by over 100 pledged delegates
It's over, already. And the game isn't tennis, by the way. It's more like boxing. Nearing the bell in the twelfth round, and ten of the twelve rounds so far have been scored to her opponent. She's had a bit of a late rally, but she'll still lose the decision.
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thoughtcrime1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:16 PM
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30. DUzy?
Scarborough?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:17 PM
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31. Her record would then be 15-30. Love.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:22 PM
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32. no, not even close. North Carolina is the largest state remaining, and he will trounce her there.
She cannot catch up, or even make it close really.

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DU9598 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:24 PM
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33. LOL - NO
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Lucky 13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:27 PM
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34. Well she'll still be behind in the delegate count, so NO.
Until she overtakes him in delegates, it's his to lose.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:51 PM
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36. Nope.
Unless Indiana nets HRC 150 delegates.
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Indenturedebtor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:55 PM
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37. In answer to your question..... YES
It would still be game, set, match.

She fought a good fight and played a good game.

Well before Edwards dropped out anyways. After that she played like KKK Rove and lost. It's over... lets get ready for the GE and make sure that McDeath doesnt get elected ok?
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:59 PM
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38. No, It will be over when she concedes.
She won't get enough delegates to win the nomination. Sorry, we thought you knew that.
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haymakeragain Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:01 PM
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39. by 40 points, that and all the rest of the states, then she is close to being even.
Other than that, she cannot catch up.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:02 PM
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40. No, Obama has won 30 states already
and she has won 15, if she wins Indiana that is 16 and NC for Obama will be 31.



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Texas Hill Country Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:10 PM
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43. yup
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Zachstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:11 PM
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44. No
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:12 PM
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46. Did you forget the SARCASM tag?
Shows us where she pulls ahead in anything after winning IN and even NC, not counting the illegal gains in FL and MI.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:21 PM
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47. I think Hillary needs to net delegates on May 6th.
If Obama wins more delegates than Hillary on May 6th (North Carolina and Indiana combined), he will prove that he has bounced back from the Pastor Wright controversy.

But I guess Hillary will continue her campaign if she wins >50% of the vote in Indiana.
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Yossariant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:23 PM
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48. NO, but it's game, set, match if she wins NC -- though I don't think she will.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:25 PM
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49. Guam is the Key! Don't forget Guam!
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:26 PM
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50. LOL dream big!
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