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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:15 PM
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I am an asshole.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 01:49 PM by walldude
Number of dead U.S. Soldiers: 4056 as of today.

Number of maimed U.S. soldiers: 29,829 (confirmed, estimates go as high as 100,000)

Number of Iraqi Civilian Deaths: estimates are anywhere from 80,000 to 600,000

Number of dead Iraqi children: estimates start in the 10's of thousands, of dead children

Number of dead U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan: 494

Increase in fuel costs: 100% in the last 8 years and rising

Number of energy and fuel company executives on Cheney's "energy task force": 16

Increase in the cost of food over the last year: 40%

Number of countries having food riots: 7 that I could verify so far.

Number of drowned U.S. Cities during the Bush administration: 1

Number of deaths in N.O.: Believe it or not I could not find an official count of the lives lost in N.O. It's over 1000

Number of Americans with no health insurance: 47 million +

Number of Americans who die annually of cancer due to lack of health care: 18,000 (these are preventable deaths)

Number of people tortured by the Bush Administration: Unknown

Number of secret U.S. prisons globally: Unknown

Number of laws violated by the Bush administration: Unknown (see below)

Number of signing statements Bush used to make himself above the law: 104 as of 2005 probably close to 200 now.

Number of times John McCain has supported Bush's policies.: Pretty much all of them.

I planned on making this a really long list but I got this far and am now embarrassed, sickened, disgusted, appalled and downright angry at myself for allowing myself to be dragged into these pathetic debates about the Rev. Wright, about lesbians, about bowling, elitists, cults, philandering husbands and campaign war chests.

I can't believe Democrats would be stupid enough to let their pride, their sense of entitlement, and their stupid smug superiority complex get in the way of taking down a disgusting unholy regime that has the blood of thousands of children on their hands. I cannot believe I have sunk so low. We are really a pathetic group of assholes. Really. I wonder what could have been accomplished with all the man hours spent wasted in these pointless pissing matches. We really are going to get what we deserve come November.

Now I will watch as this thread drops like a stone to make room for 50 more posts on Hillary's Lesbian tendencies and Rev Wright. Thanks for your time.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:16 PM
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1. Kicked. Rec'd. Should be pinned for everyone to read.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 01:17 PM by americanstranger
Great post. you got perspective, walldude.

- as
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:17 PM
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2. Remove the last line, I'll rec you.
Although I could give two shits about that nut Wright, the lesbian comment is out of line.

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:22 PM
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13. The comment that we are wasting our time talking about Hillary
being a lesbian is out of line? Yeah on some other planet maybe. You don't like it? You have 3 threads to tell me why calling Hillary a lesbian is a great topic of discussion. Let's see one.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:25 PM
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18. You miss my point.
I saw nothing about calling Clinton a Lesbian. I just assumed from the line that you didn't want posts about lesbians.

Your mistake AND mine.

Truce?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:31 PM
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23. *Sigh* Truce... but,
How come you understood about Rev Wright but not about the lesbian thing? Why would you assume that I was talking about lesbians in general when the stupid subject of the day is "Hillary is a lesbian"?
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:42 PM
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27. I try to ignore those posts, and the poster may be on IGNORE!
My list is approaching 300. I have no idea how many have been TS'd, because I could care less!

But I agree with you. I'm sick of this whole mess. It's like watching a horrific accident in slow motion: you can't turn away.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:46 PM
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31. Then cheers to us both!
Sorry I forget about the ignore thing...
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:08 PM
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50. this is the latest thing I put at the end of my posts:
Here's to BOTH campaigns...SUCKIN' MY DICK.

Think I can get away with that as a sig line?
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:26 AM
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166. Why not. Great sig line.
In a sign of mass protest, it should be adopted by all who are over it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:17 PM
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3. But... the M$M says Wright is important.
So...

nevermind.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:18 PM
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4. Guess that makes two of us. K/R.
:kick:
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olkaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:18 PM
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5. Democratic Candidates that Voted for the AUMF: One. Hillary.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:22 PM
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12. Authorization for the Use of Military Force - but that's somehow not a vote for war.
How, I don't know.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:24 PM
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16. THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT HILLARY OR OBAMA
It's about us.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:44 PM
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73. they don't get it, walldude
they just don't fucking get it - and they simply prove the point :puke:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #16
93. But some of us WANT to know
about Rev Wright's lesbian tendencies.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #93
139. Ha..ha you made a funny!
:rofl:
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:24 AM
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165. You are so correct.
However there will be disruptors who will try, in vain, to hijack this thread. Thank you for a great post.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:26 PM
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20. Democratic Candidates that buy bullets by voting for War Money...
Two.
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fight4my3sons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:19 PM
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6. won't let it drop
you're not an asshole :hug: I think you just proved that.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:19 PM
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7. You are NOT an asshole, my dear walldude!
Bush is!

Thank you for the wake-up call...it is desperately needed!

K&R

:patriot:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:20 PM
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8. K & R
:dem:

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:20 PM
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9. Right on.
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futureliveshere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:21 PM
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10. Are you a lesbian asshole who is Wright? No, then you are OK..K&R
:hi:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:22 PM
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11. k/r
joining your hopeless cause
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:22 PM
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14. There will always be more distractions.
And after each one another tragedy will take place unnoticed.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:23 PM
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15. We let there be distractions.
Du used to be able to see right through them. Now, we cause them.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:25 PM
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17. Spot fucking on. That should have been the OP.
Played like fiddles...
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:32 PM
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24. I have 2 threads left!
And 6 hours before my flight leaves!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:33 PM
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25. Heheh... well...
if you feel like it... we can't have too many threads that are actually worth reading. :)
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:45 PM
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30. I hear you loud and clear.
It's a sad state of affairs we're in right now.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:04 PM
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62. OK, now I'm confused!
Is that hotdog made from cotton????? :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:24 PM
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67. I like cotton. I like hot dogs.
Makes perfect sense. :)
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:26 PM
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19. K&R from another shamed asshole.
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:26 PM
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21. "Now I will watch as this thread drops like a stone..."
I know the feeling. Goddamned GD-P.

:)
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:28 PM
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22. K&R.
Sometimes I think we need another room for the rumor posts. Then we can just not go there.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:38 PM
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26. Sobering.
K&R
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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28. k/r
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:44 PM
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29. K/R ... Feel free to self-kick, your OP is that good.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:46 PM
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32. .
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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:47 PM
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33. But you're OUR asshole!
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:51 PM
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34. k/R
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:51 PM
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35. Kick. nt.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:52 PM
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36. Kick for sanity and intelligence.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:53 PM
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37. k&r
:pals:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:56 PM
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38. Number of dead Iraqi children: estimates start in the 10's of thousands.
need to say this EVERY DAY.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 01:58 PM
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39. children.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #39
152. But...
They're not American children. :sarcasm:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:00 PM
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40. The first step is admitting that you're an asshole
it's been sweet relief for me, I'll tell ya
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:04 PM
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47. My name is Buzz. And I'm an asshole.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:06 PM
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63. Hi, Buzz..
My name is Polmaven and I'm an asshole too!
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:15 PM
Response to Reply #40
54. 2nd Step: Surrendering to the higher power of the Fecal God.
SHIT happens. SHIT rules. SHIT is essential to all Life. All hail SHIT!

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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #54
70. You know.. there's just not enough shit in my life.
That's why I come here :rofl:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #70
130. So much shit ...
... so few corncobs. :rofl:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #54
76. I don't take any shit.... I don't give a shit
I'm just not in the "shit" business
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #76
129. Well, you're obviously not qualified to occupy the Offal Orifice.
:silly: :dunce:
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #129
131. you are raunchy as fuck
I really like that in a person

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:59 PM
Response to Reply #131
133. (lol!!) Thanks!
I've never felt that I've had such a surfeit of vocabulary that I could afford to discard any of it. :rofl:

Raised in blue collar neighborhoods, some sports team participation, nearly 4 years in the military, fraternity in college ... all the best training.
:evilgrin:
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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:01 PM
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41. Thank you for reminding everybody what is important
K&R I don't think Dems are assholes. It's easy to get distracted by tabloid style attacks and forget what is really important when the MSM is constantly babbling about the BS everywhere you look. They have a big financial need to keep as much crap going as they can so they can get bigger ratings. My family barely gets by paycheck to paycheck, prices on everything are going up daily and I have 4 draft age sons. I keep these things on my mind when I hear about lapel pins, pastors, etc.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:02 PM
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42. yes.
If we could collectively keep the IQ-level higher, the MSMS wouldn't be able to dominate the conversation *as much.

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liberaldem4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:53 PM
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59. I think the MSM tries to manipulate
the people who vote but really don't have an interest in politics and just listen a little to see what the media says about the political scene so they can form decisions about the issues. I kind of think it has more to do with what you're personally interested in than anything else. I'm glad I don't have to vote on sports, because I really have no clue about what goes on with that. Politics I understand, but anything to do with sports-I have no clue. :dunce:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:03 PM
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43. Number of Americans with no health insurance: 47 million +
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:14 PM
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53. That's the issue for me. I'm one of them
so are my wife and kids. She had chest pains a couple weeks ago. Went to the emergency room. Luckily it turned out to be bad gastric attack. Got the bill. Cat scan, blood workup, GI Cocktail, and doctors visit, total $7000.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:33 PM
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69. Holy Sh--
Oh, dude! We soooo have to get HR 676 back to life!

My heart is with ya, man. Let's keep pushing!

I'm pushing here in CA too -

http://onecarenow.org/index.html
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:32 PM
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120. FUCK ME! $7000.00?
That's intolerable. I'm a Canadian, and I can't imagine the whole no universal health care thing you guys have to deal with. And I'm sad to say that I've seen people here arguing against it. "People aren't ready," that sort of bullshit. Oh yeah. I'm sure you're not ready to have all those procedures virtually free.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:02 AM
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153. And at the rate things are going...
That's a weeks worth of groceries and the gas to get them. Things are fucked up in so many ways, and yet they're all on the back burner so we can discuss a different non-issue every day.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:29 PM
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141. That is absolutely ridiculous...meanwhile the real asshole
in the whitehouse scoff at universal healthcare, bastards. I am glad your wife is okay.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:03 PM
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44. perspective
trivia can be amusing, but it needs to be put in perspctive. Thanks.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:04 PM
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45. You're not an asshole. I'm an asshole. And why the hell is the Hide Thread feature turned off!
I wouldn't hide this thread, but all the Wright zombies have come back to life.

Shit, shit, shit!

:mad:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:11 PM
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51. It's unreal... every other thread...
Used to be Democrats would get angry at people who used the religious "litmus" test as a precursor to getting into office. Now? Theocracy here we come.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:04 PM
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46. What's your opinion of the Olive Garden?
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:02 PM
Response to Reply #46
61. I'm biased towards Italian foods. Plus the kids like it
so it works well for me :)
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SoonerPride Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:05 PM
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48. ENOUGH WITH DISTRACTIONS. REAL ISSUES, MAN. REAL ISSUES!!
HELL YEAH!

You are 100% on target.

K & R
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:07 PM
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49. In fact I have to say
This primary thing thing has been a total sideshow... a distraction.

I haven't watched or read most of my media for weeks... just a bit here and there.

The world is falling apart... issues are out there I need to be aware of... stories I should be following

And I've decided I have a pony in THIS CRAZY race... I've become like the people that watched every minute of the OJ Trial.

It's a debacle... The Supreme Court is going off the deep end... Baghdad's in flames... major power shifts and diplomatic realignment in South America... SO much.

I cruise through Common Dreams looking only for anything written about the primary race...

I don't even have a TV and I've become a typical American Mushroom... kept in the dark and fed incessant BULLSHIT

Asshole? Man, you're MY kind of asshole, ok?

Thanks
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not_too_L8 Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:14 PM
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52. Thanks for the reality check... K&R
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:18 PM
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55. $1,721 - my individual Iraq War asshole taxpayer share.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 02:19 PM by Hissyspit
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:21 PM
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56. Number of secret U.S. prisons globally: Unknown
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:45 PM
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57. I second your emotion, (except for the a-hole part)
I cannot believe democrats would do this in such an important year.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:49 PM
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58. Rec it to the top of Greatest. .. Don't forget WHY we are here!!!! bravo :thumbsup:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:56 PM
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60. Number of WMD found in I-raq: zero
my $0.02
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:07 PM
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64. Wow! Today I'm a popular asshole..
As someone said, the first step to recovery is to admit you have a problem. :toast:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:07 PM
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65. Amazing, I don't see any "Ignored" on this thread
:kick:
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:32 PM
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68. None for me ethier, what does it mean?
I have like maybe 60 or so I have on that list...
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:51 PM
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78. It means that all the paranoia about trolls is true.
There are people here to do nothing but disrupt, and they do it so well that a few long time DU'ers are joining them. There is no need for them to respond to a thread like this.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:23 PM
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66. for how many of those things is the democratic party...
...at least partly responsible for? answer: enough that i shouldn't be guilt-tripped into having qualms about any old democrat that gets thrown up on the ballot.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:48 PM
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75. WTF are you babbling about?
Really. Guilt-tripped? If you feel guilty about something then maybe there is a reason. If you don't then maybe there is not. How can a person possibly believe that someone can make them feel guilty? You either are or you aren't. Have you participated in this circular firing squad? The you are probably guilty. Deal with it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:59 AM
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:42 PM
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71. Cue Dennis Leary
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:52 PM
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143. You beat me to it!...
Was thinking of that same song with the thread title...
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:27 AM
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167. I prefer Jimmy Buffett
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:43 PM
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72. THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
W O O O O O O O O !!!
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:44 PM
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74. Kick for logical sync
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4waterfalls Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:49 PM
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77. N.O. deaths
thanks for mentioning that.I too found it odd that no official death count was ever reported,or if it was-not very often or clearly.The rest-all good points. Our country is an embarrassment. This is the status quo..what most Americans have and will vote for..over and over.
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:50 PM
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151. All of a sudden I am thinking of the words of Pogo Possum
"We have met the enemy, and he is us."

(Forgive the sexist language, but that's the exact quote. God, we could use Walt Kelly right about now - and Molly Ivins too.)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:04 PM
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79. K&R
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:05 PM
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80. Asshole. Thy name is BUSH!


Asshole // ASS" hole // (n) 1. One who kills, hurts or abuses others;
contributes nothing of value to society; feels a sense of priviledge.
2. Traitor. 3. Warmonger. 4. Mass murderer. 5. Thief. 6. Illegitimate.
7. A boss (colloquial). 8. Anus. 9. Neo-con.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:07 PM
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81. K&R # 93
Thanks.
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Maureen1322 Donating Member (392 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:13 PM
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82. I am glad I picked today to check in on DU,
this post expresses my feelings exactly. Thank you.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:14 PM
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83. Right on!
:kick:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:16 PM
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84. How come you don't care about starr jones' divorce?????
Answer me that, mister!!!

peace.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:18 PM
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86. I'm busy worrying about Miley Cirus's pictures...
No time for Star Jones...
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SavageDem Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:16 PM
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85. Uh, like you mean, we should like, pay attention to real issues and stuff?
But how can I do that when some of these things just don't fit into a 15-second sound byte? Are you asking me to think? Like really dig into some of these issues? But that's hard! I want the MSM to condense it for me, and do it quickly before American Idol comes on. The audacity of asking me to try and understand complex issues! Goddamn you, Progressives!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:19 PM
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87. Hey thanks everyone... now that my thread is on the front
page after me bitching about watching it drop, I look like... an asshole. :rofl:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:21 PM
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88. recommended for accuracy in OP subject line
:yourock:
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:36 PM
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89. Samckdown! K&R!
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:43 PM
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90. K&R n/t
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:45 PM
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91. Excellent post.
I was thinking today about how absolutely fucked everything is. Gas is expensive. Food is expensive. I'm deep in debt. I make no money. There are no jobs. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. It's going to get a lot worse. To top it off, I turn on the radio and hear the Chimp talk about how "the economy is slowing down. It's slowing down and it'll be tough and that's why we need to make those tax cuts permanent." Why not just come out and say, "This is a stickup. Gimmie all your money." And I think, "Who still believes this crap?" Then I remember it's all the people frightened by what the scary black man said.:banghead:

I don't see any of the shit stirrers from GD-P on this thread.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:56 PM
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95. " just come out and say, "This is a stickup. Gimmie all your money."
:spray:

That was funny dude.. and sadly true. And some people still believe he is doing them a favor.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:55 PM
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92. Great reality thread, do at least one per day. Thanks. K&R
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:56 PM
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94. Now we know why the crazy people go crazy. It's the only world
where you don't get pissed off (except for the uber-rich world, and they even get pissed off because they're never rich enough).
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:59 PM
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96. Here's my elitist comment.
A lot of the arguing is over the implicit understanding that whatever the real issues are, the average voter is too fucking stupid or self-absorbed to care about them. So we are left to guess what is important to voters and how to win them over.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:10 PM
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98. I listed most of the real issues
and there's no need to guess how people vote. It's all about money. When all is said and done people vote with their pocketbooks. And pocketbooks are thin these days. This election would be a breeze if we spent as much energy and time attacking the Republicans as we do our own.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:35 PM
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128. No, they don't vote on money. If they did, no Republican would ever get elected.
The 'average Joe' always votes against his own economic interest. What *really* matters is God, 'family values' (whatever that may mean) and guns. I'm sorry if this comment makes me an elitist. I think Obama was right.
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:08 PM
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97. KICK>>>
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:14 PM
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99. This is one of the best posts I've seen in this forum for a LONG time!
K&R :thumbsup:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:14 PM
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100. Number of dead U.S. Soldiers: 4056 as of today.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:15 PM
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101. Best thread of the week
And just let me say thanks, and add fuck the media.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:17 PM
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102. Oh your post dropped alright....
To the greatest page!

Thanks, makes tons of sense.

K&R
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:22 PM
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103. You damn right son
I am asshole.

For not screaming loud enough and not making unholy hell for all those, whether by acquiecence or blind fealty, who allowed this disgrace to happen. And I am one of them.

Then again, we screamed, and those who would not listen bear a terrible penance to whomever for demanding they not be forced to look at reality.

Kick

Rec

Continue screaming

You're a fine man walldude, you have conscience, courage, and passion in abundance. Hang in Holmes, hang in.

:hug: :loveya: :pals:
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:24 PM
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104. National Debt: 9.2 trillion (was 5.7 in 2001)....and
Consumer debt has almost doubled...

Dollar is worth about 60% of what it was 2 years ago

Personal savings rate is NEGATIVE

Trade deficit has doubled

Favorable view of USA by other countries has plummeted


I think you should take a deep breath and, when you are ready, finish your list. List everything. Let's get it on LTE's, other blogs, and maybe even someone will pony up to have it published in an ad in a national publication. Send it to Obama's campaign. Send it to KO and Maddow. The big picture has to be exposed here....because so many live only on the scandal of the week and so many others are just on outrage overload and still others take this kind of thing and dismiss it as silly politics. Who with national exposure can do this?? Someone with stature has to SHAME the msm and the public into forgetting about Brittney and Wright and pay attention to issues!
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:25 PM
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105. and if we really wanted to be sick, we could start to list all the environmental
disasters and misdeeds over the last 8 years....
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:30 PM
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106. Aw, ya had me at 'asshole'. nt
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:47 PM
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107. Imagine how much worse this list can get....
before January 20, 2009. :scared:
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:48 PM
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108. K&R...a well deserved one
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:48 PM
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109. Number of Katrina related dead
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:19 PM by Whoa_Nelly
Definitely over 1300, according to this Feb. 2006 article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11281267

But, according to this, there are well over 1400
http://robertlindsay.blogspot.com/2006/01/katrina-death-toll-rockets-to-1417.html

And, updated from the same blogger, with links, stating over 4,000 dead
http://robertlindsay.blogspot.com/2007/03/katrina-death-toll-passes-4000.html
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:51 PM
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110. Thank you, kick
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 05:56 PM
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111. Highly recommended
and this list isn't even close to the whole picture we could effect and we should be concerned with. People who have flushed their focus down the GOP toilet bowl can now enjoy the moral sewer.

Some people drag their DU credentials around in service of insanity and petty fan hysteria. In their hearts they are already tombstoned and dead to the cause, the victims and any hope for the future. And of course the rejoicing demons and trolls inside and outside of DU who flourish in cracks within our common sense and decency.

Global warming: eight years lost in rapacious regression, profiteering and propaganda against action. Food and population crises. Health care and untreatable disease crisis. Science in the hands of war and profiteers. Avoidable wars and fixed right wing election 'victories". The moral and rational meltdown of the entire leadership super-strata of the "elite" world. Eight years destroying the military and the education system, the water supply and the stagnating energy delivery system. Eight years of ruining the infrastructure. Eight years of keeping the crooks safe with impunity for every misdeed and failure. eight years of appeasement and chortling glory of feeble minded self enriching cowards and morons with corrupt cultic fundamentalists. Eight years of overflowing Empire decadence stumbling into scandals and court cases by sheer volume(with some still able to cling to their jobs against the people).

Eight years of absolute evil and we need more tiny demons with gleeful pitchforks running amok in the world's pain?

Don't be misled or led astray by anyone. The battle for the planet begins with the truth, not a hostile mediated and corrupted election process, or any leader except our conscience.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:06 PM
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112. You are NOT an asshole.

Wake up America!:kick:

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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:12 PM
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113. You left out......
... Number of apathetic Americans
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:13 PM
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114. Hi, my name is Barrymore's Ghost, and I'm a MAJOR-LEAGUE ASSHOLE.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 06:15 PM by Barrymores Ghost
Big time.

And I know there are some of you out there who will back me up.

Sorry, walldude....not trying to steal your thunder or anything...:toast:
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:15 PM
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115. Hey Walldude - I love this
And you are not an asshole. This system that we have is f'ed up.

There was an injured soldier on NBC NIghtly News tonight and he said that he's upset with the media because they don't mention the injured soldiers, ever. NOw only if NBC would take this young man's advise and report on this disgrace from this failed war.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:16 PM
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116. What a GREAT post!!!!! The proof that you are NOT an asshole lies simply in your having posted this.
These are issues we all need to be reminded about - so WE do not get distracted. This isn't a post. It's a public service!

Kicked, Recommended, and Bookmarked!

:yourock:
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:16 PM
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117. Number of times John McCain has supported Bush's policies.: Pretty much all of them.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:27 PM
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118. Another one:
Number of bills that actually benefited Americans that Bush vetoed because it goes against the GOP agenda: 10
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:30 PM
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119. Don't forget about the hundreds of deaths elsewhere along the Gulf Coast
over 50 in Biloxi, Miss. (pop. 50,000), for instance -- most in (surprise, surprise) one low-lying, largely African American neighborhood.

Asshole. :-)
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:34 PM
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121. Can I sing Dennis Leary's Asshole song now? n/t
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:00 PM
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122. I am so glad this on the Greatest Page and Page One.

This should be read by everyone!

Thank you, walldude!

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Yes We Did Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:21 PM
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123. fantastic post! K&R
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:23 PM
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124. strange
not a single reply from my buddy ignore.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:27 PM
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125. Thank you. With posts like this
and the positive replies, there seems to be hope for us yet. We need to list the 12 steps for those of us who need to join Assholes Anonymous.
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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:28 PM
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126. Je suis un asshole aussi.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:29 PM
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127. Great post. Wrong conclusion.
You place all importance on the Democrats' mistake of in-fighting while they should concentrate on November. But the Democrats' *real* mistake is not impeaching Cheney and Bush and the rest of the cabal.
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Stump Donating Member (808 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:58 PM
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132. K&R...n/t
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:03 PM
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134. "pointless pissing matches"...
...sing it, brother...:thumbsup:
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:04 PM
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135. "I wonder what could have been accomplished with all the man hours spent wasted in these pointless
pissing matches."

Indeed.

:banghead:
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:05 PM
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136. Put a Hillary sign on your lawn while you're at it.
You don't seem to realize what's going on.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:26 AM
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181. Well I would but I'm an Obama supporter. Which means it's you
that doesn't realize what's going on friend.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:20 PM
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137. I think you misunderestimated DU, walldude my friend...
Thanks be to the gods that there are still enough of us hanging around who still have our eyes on the ball and care about the real issues.

K&R
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Barb in Atl Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:30 PM
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138. More...
FDA cut inspectors; salmonella, listeria, e-coli cases increased

EPA says go on out in that fresh NYC air after 9/11

DOJ used for political hit jobs

HUD director Alphonse Whatshisname

Mining accidents increased...

.
.
.
.
(sigh)
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:26 PM
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140. If by "asshole" you mean rational human being...
then yeah, you might be that. ;)

Great post. I agree whole-heartedly.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:37 PM
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142. That's the first time I have agreed with you. You REALLY made some great points. K/R
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 09:39 PM by BigBearJohn
Thanks!:bounce: :hi: :hug:

(However, I do not agree that you are an asshole.)
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casaloma Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 09:58 PM
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144. It's Like the Titanic
It's like watching the Titanic head for the iceberg and you're shouting and pleading with them to change course and they don't, they plow right into it and the sinking begins. Six months ago I would have bet any amount of money that the Democrats were unbeatable in November. Now I'm not so sure, not if we keep doing what we're doing.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:13 AM
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154. I agree,
I am starting to get a really bad feeling about this. All we have to do is fuck it up bad enough for the election to be close, and the repugnants will do the rest. And we are well on our way to doing just that.
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colorado thinker Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:17 PM
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145. Kicked
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:19 PM
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146. Started off great, but the ending of your post is totally inane and stupid!!!!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:38 PM
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149. Funny, you seem to be the only one who thinks so...
243 recs. I've never even had a thread make it to the front page...
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George II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:30 AM
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171. As I said, it started off great, but...
...then you decry the "pathetic debates about the Rev. Wright, about lesbians, about bowling, elitists, cults, philandering husbands and campaign war chests". Not mentioning all that you dislike about the campaigns would have been much more effect.

And did you really have to drag in the gratuitous comments about lesbians and "Hillary's Lesbian tendencies"??? To be honest, I've read many threads on this website over the last several years and don't recall a single reference to lesbianism with regard to Hillary Clinton or her campaign staff.

THAT is what I meant by the ending being "inane and stupid".

Thank you.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:23 AM
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179. When I made this post there were tonsof threads
about Hillary's lesbian tendencies. The inane uselessness of them all along with 2 pages of Wright threads inspired this thread. I never expected it to make it to the greatest list let alone the home page. Do a search for Hillary and lesbian and you'll see what I mean.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:30 PM
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147. K & R
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Heathen57 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 10:47 PM
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148. K&R In this day and age
we are all distracted too easily.

Thanks for reminding everyone what's really important and what we should be fighting against.

Only other thing to say is "Fuck Bush and all his evil doings!"
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ekwhite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 11:42 PM
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150. Kicked and highly recommended
I guess we have all been assholes, myself included. Thanks for reminding me what is at stake.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:48 AM
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155. Don't believe it. The press sells it but we don't buy it. We want it all stopped too.
Look what the nazis got away with for so long. 25% feed on this shit but the rest of us are appalled. This is not the country we think it is. This is a corporate dictatorship and it's devouring the world.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:25 AM
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180. I know.. but even though I want it to stop I still find
myself joining right in on the pointless debates. I have posted a number of threads like this in the past, this is the first one that caught fire like this..
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:57 AM
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156. But.. but... Miley Cyrus is doing NSFW pictures!
And Britney's still smoking! WHERE ARE YOUR PRIORITIES, MAN?????







(K&R)
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JustinL Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:16 AM
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157. thank you
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:18 AM
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158. k&R
Everyone here should be required to MEMORIZE THIS before being able to post here.


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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:19 AM
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159. The problem is some "Democrats" are in league with that "unholy" regime.
And are not unhappy about all those points you just made. And will perpetuate them.
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:03 AM
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177. don't bother, the asshole doesn't want to hear it. nt
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jcla Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 03:27 AM
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160. I am still boggled in the choice between
Severe war mongering and severe racism. Seems to be the choice. People want distraction from Congress not doing anything about the OCCUPATION of Iraq, lack of health care, impeaching Bush/Cheney etc. So I guess racism in the form of Wright bashing will have to do. Divide and conquer is a good strategy.
Guess the Repugs have won this one.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:14 AM
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161. A giant BRAVO, walldude!
~PEACE~
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Preening Fop Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 05:43 AM
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162. Does the U.S. qualify as just another "Evil Empire"...? Of course.
:nuke: :patriot: :nuke:
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mcollier Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:58 AM
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163. Sad yes... Times will change
Obama 2008 Blueprint for change....
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:06 AM
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164. Have you noticed that the Hillary haters like to screw up nondivisive threads with their bile?
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 07:07 AM by Perry Logan
Well, notice that sometime.

Someone at DU will start a nondivisive thread--a thread directed at issues, or something put up simply for fun.

And--sure as shootin--some Clintophobe will show up to inject some Hillary bashing into the proceedings.

Heaven forbid we should have a moment of unity!

I have never seen a Clinton supporter screw up nondivisive threads in this way. But the anti-Hillary people do it all the time, dropping their little turds of divisiveness into otherwise friendly proceedings.

I can see only three possible reasons for this type of behavior on the part of the Clinton haters. Which do you think it is:

1) a desire to lower the morale of one's fellow Democrats
2) a desire to destroy unity within the party
3) wacked-out compulsiveness.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:55 PM
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189. I like to think there be trolls here.
It is disturbing, but I have noticed a tendency on the past for people to forswear negative posts and promise to start fighting the right fight against the right. Then two days later, a Hillary bomb. Sigh.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:53 AM
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168. K*&*R!!! n/t
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:54 AM
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169. The key to the Katrina death toll is the missing count. n/t
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:05 AM
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170. We must stay focused on what is important (thanks)
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:36 AM
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172. K & R
:kick:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:50 AM
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173. No, you're not. Great post. nt
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:09 AM
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174. So true. n/t
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architect359 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:19 AM
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175. So true, so true. K+R (eom)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:15 AM
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178. You've been trumped - number of half naked Miley Cyrus pictures - 1
:cry:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:20 AM
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182. You didn't vote for the war did you?
Assholes include Bush, Cheney and anyone in the Senate who voted for the war(s). I would also include anyone who is contemplating voting for McCain because their "favorite" may not get the nomination. If this applies to you, read the OP's list again.
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solara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:05 PM
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183. Excellent and very well said
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 12:07 PM by solara
I absolutely reject the current neo-con administration.

I reject the republican mindset that women should no longer have control over their bodies.
I reject Bush’s war in Iraq and McCain’s promise to continue the killing and destruction if it takes another 100 years or more.
I reject the Bush regime's foreign policy (or lack of) and it’s obsession with the destruction of Iran.
I reject Bush's callous disregard for life on this planet and especially his disregard for the lives of U.S. citizens and Iraqis.
I reject republican recklessness and lack of consciousness, particularly when it concerns education, economics and energy.
I reject the irrational and irresponsible republican expenditure of U.S. blood and treasure.
I reject the neo-con assault on our freedoms and on the Constitution and on the Bill of Rights.
I reject the traitorous neo-con infiltration and near destruction of Congress and our Justice Department.

And I completely and irrevocably reject the horrifying possibility that the Bush toady, John McCain, could actually win the 2008 election, effectively extending the Bush reign for at least another four years.

:kick:

INVESTIGATE IMPEACH INDICT INCARCERATE :patriot:

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knixphan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:06 PM
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184. Number of energy and fuel company executives on Cheney's "energy task force": 16
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:51 PM
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186. They were just there
to balance out our Vice President's passionate and downright awesome advocacy for the environment - Darth Cheney vs 16 oil executives. I'm sure there was a stern tongue lashing for them all to start, and then repeated showings of An Inconvenient Truth.





:sarcasm:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 12:47 PM
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185. I think our energy costs have gone up more than 100% over the last 8 years
Gas prices were $1.40 a gallon or so when Bush took office - now, they're at $3.60+ and heading to $4.00 fast.

and, the price of oil has gone up similarly as well, and that is often translatable into energy costs.

great post, by the way.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:20 PM
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187. I wonder
because too many people are so damn focused on a pointless horse race,a corporate driven horse race..It's a great distraction from the grim reality of what is happening I guess. Thing is Americans better damn well stop distracting themselves from the ugly truth or it will come back and fuck us over.Because no matter how hard you play make believe it will never change reality and undo what has happened. We might as well quit believing one "leader" can do jack shit,to change a situation they profit from, No, it will take each of us to change it for ourselves.

I will say it now,Obama or Hillary,I don't care anymore,I don't like either of them.They are in my eyes same shit different persons.They both suck up to the biggest payers which happen to be corporates,as long as a candidate refuses to DEFY yes DEFY and Condemn corporations greed and capriciousness and Denounce the fucking popular lies (like Horatio Alger myths and trickle down economic type bullshit,and whatnot ) that make so many people confused enough to think a corporation's profit means they will do better themselves.

The right wing is a toxic cancer on all noble ideals. The right has so throughly infested everything, half of the people here on DU don't even realize it when they are supporting the very poisonous machine, the very mental traps that we think our freedom depends on maintaining in place..Repeating the web of lies ,and snappy quips and poor bashing snot slinging superior attitudes,and toxic beliefs that keeps us quite bound to this corrupted unfair and psychopathic way of life as if NOTHING is better or can be better than this crap.There is better and it begins with you and your willingness to say fuck the horse race,and and admit it is rigged ,stand up..and walk away from this fucking'empire'.Rail against that fucking status quo that keeps on screwing us over and over with the repeated election of pro-corporate assholes that are charismatic don't give a shit unless it effects them personally, listening only to who pays them the most money.That system isn't working,and funny how little of our agenda is ever represented anymore.I don't think it's worth half our paychecks worth of representing,do you?

We the people elect more often than not, rich assholes and incompetents who through a crafted image look like 'leader' material.These fuckers will charm the skin off a snake ,and they do pull it off as long as their P.R. departments are busting their humps obstructing who they really are with bullshit images and staged presentations where nobody really gets to challenge them for saying words people want to hear.

So,Whatever gets them votes,to the cushy power job,we believe in that same old to the point we end up over and over voting for a crafted IMAGE.A person shaped lie of what we are told to think we want.

Yes politicians all of them, polish up a fake presentation of self, because they are selling themselves as someone better than they are. Always making promises to the 'little people' that never happen after the election is won,CONTINUOUSLY this shafting process happens to the poor and disenfranchised. But the middle class and up is all these politicians give a shit about after the election. So if you aren't a billionaire pig you have just become a nobody again..How long are people gonna bet their lives on a fucking rigged horse race that ultimately might not do a damn thing good for them?

There are much bigger issues at stake than a fucking horse race that is being played out to near intolerable idiocy. A race that will ultimately because of the kind of people politicians ARE will be more of the same shit.Regardless of who wins they are shit. That is how it has been for too long, shit in power. How easy people forget,and this forgetting has got to stop.There is too much at stake to keep on playing make believe and distracting ourselves to death ..literally.
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JohnDoe_America Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 02:08 PM
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188. I get it about how bad the republicans are but
I get it and will work hard not to let McCain get elected but is it okay to win at all costs. HRC firsts says its the delegates that count then the delegates that get elected by the results of a primary or caucus can vote any way they like. What is that shit? Do we really want to elect a person who would throw away the results of an election just to get the nomination? Do we really want another President that is so detached from reality that she would count the votes of one state where she was the only one on the ballot and count another state where her opponent couldn't campaign which is where he always closes the gap. I'm tired on delusional people running this country and people who hate the democratic process so much that none of the elections count only that delegates should vote their conscience and vote for her.

Who cares about Wright and lesbians? I care about people who want it so bad they would throw away the democratic process and will probably throw away the constitution when gets in their way.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:01 PM
Response to Reply #188
190. Let go of the MSM.
Just sit back and let go of the media feeds. It will kill your soul. The OP is right.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 07:04 PM
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191. How can be get this message back on the front page?
Already, the GDP and other locations have degenerated into the same old same old.

Walldude. Write it again. MSM does their crap a thousand times a day so we are being eaten alive.
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