Why is Obama NOW outraged, but wasn't a month ago?

[YEM]

Why didn't he get "outraged" in the last 20 years?

[rusty_parts2001]

1. Thats what I'm talking about

[YEM]

3. Maybe because his campaign said..."time to get outraged?"

[avaistheone1]

32. Yup. It's just politics.

[Rageneau]

48. Obama is just another politician -- nothing new about him.

Same thing is true about more debates. Obama refuses them because that's what old-style politicians do -- the kind of old-style politicians he says he repudiates.

I thought BO represented CHANGE.

So how come the CHANGE looks like nothing but politics as usual?

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

69. anyone who watched and listened to his comments KNOWS why he is now outraged

and rightly so.

Wright went on a media blitz that he was invited on by a Clinton supporter.
Wright went off the deep end.

A frigging 3 day tour.

Obama is a gracious and decent man who did not want to have to publicly
criticize this man or any other man.

[LVjinx]

83. "Hillary supporter invite" angle has been debunked

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0408/Press_Club_President_responds_Reynolds_pitched_Rev_Wright_two_years_ago.html

[roguevalley]

50. why aren't you enraged by Hillary's participation over nearly two

decades with the Fellowship? Why don't you find her goding around with nazis and theocrats worth getting angry over? Well?

[Texas Hill Country]

67. stay on topic... that is not the question presented... dont sidestep with other crap... its just

a distraction... if you have a comment, then comment on the subject at hand...

[Two Americas]

79. she is no better

So what?

But maybe.... she is no worse.

That would mean that perhaps all of the vicious attacks against the "Clintonistas" - defined as anyone who expresses any reservations whatsoever about the Obama phenomenon - are the source of the acrimony and feuding and lack of unity, and that maybe the way the Obama supporters are defining the good guys and the bad guys is not accurate or practicable, and is in fact causing the divisiveness, not healing it.

[chimpymustgo]

91. Good post, Two Americas.

[roguevalley]

54. and no outrage from you over Hillary's association over many, many

years with the fellowship? Its okay for her to fellowship with nazis and neocon theocrats? Can't have it both ways. faux outrage otherwise.

[Texas Hill Country]

66. exactly.

[zerostar]

2. BECAUSE HE IS A LIAR

THEY ALL ARE no big surprise there.

[Tyler Durden]

6. EXACTLY my point. They ALL know what's what, and they are ALL LYING.

no other comment needed.

[Eurobabe]

7. they don't call you zerostar for nothin'

C'ya!

[movonne]

37. I just like Obama's lies better...If we have to pick a liar I will pick Obama..

and the hillary people will like her lies better..

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[zerostar]

64. Thanks and

Reported.

[Bensthename]

59. You must not be that familiar with Hillary..

google her name and Pinocchio shows up..

[zerostar]

65. What did I say?

Does all not include hillary? I swear the attitude of these Obamites is so fing defensive.

[Bensthename]

73. What did you say?

You called Obama a liar with no evidence and also called Hillary a liar (because you know there is evidence of her lies).

If your opinion of both candidates is that they are just big liars then you must be rePube in disguise stirring up trouble here. And if you aren't then I wonder what your real motivations are.

[zerostar]

88. What's a repube? Can we grow up?

I am actually a registered Dem, but all Politicians lie, if you think Obama is perfect you are way under the cult spell.

[Bensthename]

97. "I am actually a registered Dem"

You are a registered dem but act like a rePube and will vote rePube (woops sorry didnt mean to insult your real party). If you are old enough..

[zerostar]

99. I act like a republican

because I am telling the truth that all politicians lie? I think you need to re-check what the RW is up to these days LOL

[LVjinx]

85. Doesn't justify Obama lying, too.

[SeaLyons]

4. Because his candidacy is hanging by a thread...

no other reason.

[LakeSamish706]

9. You wish? lol... You guys really do need to get a life. n/t

[Eurobabe]

10. I think you have the wrong person.

[EFerrari]

5. Because the last four days happened four days ago

not twenty years ago. Obama isn't clairvoyant.

[WeDidIt]

49. Bingo!

We have a winner!

[Inchworm]

55. well said

:thumbsup:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Why aren't you outraged about the war in Iraq?

Or the economy?

Or health care?

[blm]

11. Why didn't Hillary and her political thugs oppose Bush even ONCE from 2001-2007?

Didn't she think he and Rove deserved opposing as much as they believe Obama does?

[Mezzo]

24. why didn't HE once he got there? Alas, not a SINGLE MEETING...while sharing a 95% voting record w/

someone you call a republican? That doesn't bode well for your guy.

:think:

[blm]

43. Clintons had the grip on the party from 1993-2005 and you want to PRETEND Obama was

in control of the fights the party took on from 2001-2007?

WHY don;t you have any questions for those who you CLAIM are the party's leaders? Didn't they hold that position from 2001-2007?

[YEM]

12. It's phoney and it looks phoney

[emilyg]

22. It looks so convenient.

Wonder how mad Wright will get.

[JoFerret]

27. If he was mad before...

...he will need to be boxed up and mailed now.

[LSparkle]

35. Wright ATTACKED OBAMA'S CREDIBILITY recently ... not 20 years ago

It's one thing for a minister to say some politically incorrect things
from a pulpit, but when he implies that Obama isn't genuine -- that he's
just doing things for POLITICAL REASONS -- that would get me outraged
as well.

Wright realized that he had some "credibility" with the sucky MSM and
he was using it to DESTROY Obama's campaign. It's about fucking time
Obama cut the guy loose. He gave him the benefit of the doubt for as
long as he could -- as ANY GOOD CHRISTIAN WOULD -- but once the guy showed
his disrespect for the work Obama has been doing and the kind of
campaign he's been running, it was time for Wright to go.

ANYONE WHO KEEPS COVERING WRIGHT AFTER THIS IS ENGAGING IN GUTTER
POLITICS.

[Two Americas]

98. 180 degree change overnight

Yesterday it was anyone attacking Wright is engaging in gutter politics.

Today is is anyone failing to attack Wright is engaging in gutter politics.

I was defending Wright yesterday, and I am defending him today. Yesterday I was seen as being on the side of righteousness and goodness and enlightenment, today I am a "Clintonista."

[Voltaire]

33. And being a Hillary supporter you know your PHONY don't you?

You people crack me up, NOT

[emilyg]

76. "Your phony" ?????????

[Barack_America]

13. 3 worthless threads and now you're done for the day.

Was it worth it?

:smoke:

[Eurobabe]

16. uptick in Hilltrolls

wonder who is letting them on here? hmmmm....

[cali]

14. Because a month ago Wright wasn't all over trying to sabotage

obama. simple if you have a brain.

[stevietheman]

80. Exactly... the "if you have a brain" part is nailing the Hill supporters. :) n/t

n/t

[tritsofme]

15. I'm shocked, shocked to find that there is gambling going on here!

Croupier: Your winnings, sir.
Renault: Oh, thank you very much.

[shaniqua6392]

The title of one of Obama's books was based on one

of Wright's sermons. How can he distance himself from him now? Isn't it a little late? I think this has already tarnished him. He just threw Wright under the bus by claiming that he hardly knows him. I wonder what Wright's reaction to this will be.

[MNDemNY]

17. Um...ah...err...um...

[Life Long Dem]

18. Because now it is becoming obvious Rev. Wright is not on Obama's side.

Obama divorced Rev. Wright

[thoughtcrime1984]

36. This is the correct response

Wright took the NAACP pulpit not to help a man that had been in his congregation for 20 years, but to boost himself. I am saddened how this has unfolded. And it is ridiculous how some on DU take such glee in this. Whatever, assholes, your candidate has been done for awhile now, but she'll continue to take your money until the day she bows out. And this is only directed at the assholes braying about Wright, so if you are not one, that is not directed at you.

[otohara]

19. Why Did Hillary Tell The Same Lie

over and over again?

We can do this tit for tat if you like.

[azmouse]

20. Why aren't you outraged over Hillary?

http://prorev.com/hillary.htm



SUMMARY

FIRST FIRST LADY to come under criminal investigation

FIRST FIRST LADY to almost be indicted acccording to one of the special prosecutors

NUMBER of Hillary Clinton fundraisers convicted of, or pleading no contest to, crime: 5

NUMBER OF TIMES that Hillary Clinton, providing testimony to Congress, said that she didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar: 250

NUMBER OF CLOSE BUSINESS partners of Hillary Clinton who ended up in prison: 3. The Clintons' two partners in Whitewater wereconvicted of 24 counts of fraud and conspiracy. Hillary Clinton's partner and mentor at the Rose law firm, Webster Hubbell, pleaded guilty to federal mail fraud and tax evasion charges, including defrauding former clients and former partners out of more than $480,000. Hillary Clinton was mentioned 35 times in the indictment.

IN THE 1980s, Hillary Clinton made a $44,000 profit on a $2,000 investment in a cellular phone franchise deal took advantage of the FCC's preference for locals, minorities and women. The franchise was almost immediately flipped to the cellular giant, McCaw.

HILLARY CLINTON AND HER HUSBAND set up a resort land scam known as Whitewater in which the unwitting bought third rate property 50 miles from the nearest grocery store and, thanks to the sleazy financing, about half the purchasers, many of them seniors, lost their property.

IN 1993 HILLARY CLINTON and David Watkins moved to oust the White House travel office in favor of World Wide Travel, Clinton's source of $1 million in fly-now-pay-later campaign trips that essentially financed the last stages of the campaign without the bother of reporting a de facto contribution. The White House fired seven long-term employees for alleged mismanagement and kickbacks. The director, Billy Dale, charged with embezzlement, was acquitted in less than two hours by the jury.

HRC'S 1994 HEALTH CARE PLAN, according to one account, included fines of up to $5,000 for refusing to join the government-mandated health plan, $5,000 for failing to pay premiums on time, 15 years to doctors who received "anything of value" in exchange for helping patients short-circuit the bureaucracy, $10,000 a day for faulty physician paperwork, $50,000 for unauthorized patient treatment, and $100,000 a day for drug companies that messed up federal filings.

TWO MONTHS after commencing the Whitewater scheme, Hillary Clinton invested $1,000 in cattle futures. Within a few days she had a $5,000 profit. Before bailing out she earns nearly $100,000 on her investment. Many years later, several economists will calculate that the chances of earning such returns legally were one in 250 million.

IN 1996, Hillary Clinton's Rose law firm billing records, sought for two years by congressional investigators and the special prosecutor were found in the back room of the personal residence at the White House. Clinton said she had no idea how they got there.

DRUG DEALER Jorge Cabrera gave enough to the Democrats to have his picture taken with both Hillary Clinton and Al Gore. . . Cabrera was arrested in January 1996 inside a cigar warehouse near here in Dade County, where more than 500 pounds of cocaine had been hidden. He and several accomplices were charged with having smuggled 3,000 pounds of cocaine into the United States through the Keys

In 2000, Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign returned $22,000 in soft money to a businesswoman linked to a Democratic campaign contribution from a drug smuggler in Havana.

IN AUGUST 2000, Hillary Clinton held a huge Hollywood fundraiser for her Senate campaign. It was very successful. The only problem was that, by a long shot, she didn't report all the money contributed: $800K by the US government's ultimate count in a settlement and $2 million according to the key contributor and convicted con Peter Paul. This is, in election law, the moral equivalent of not reporting a similar amount on your income tax. It is a form of fraud. Hillary Clinton's defense is that she didn't know about it

HILLARY CLINTON'S participation in a Whitewater related land deal became suspicious enough to trigger an investigation by the Arkansas Supreme Court.

IN 2007, A Pakistani immigrant who hosted fundraisers for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton became a target of the FBI allegations that he funneled illegal contributions to Clinton's political action committee and to Sen. Barbara Boxer's 2004 re-election campaign. Authorities say Northridge, Calif., businessman Abdul Rehman Jinnah, 56, fled the country shortly after being indicted on charges of engineering more than $50,000 in illegal donations to the Democratic committees.

HILLARY CLINTON SUPPORTED the appointment of Rudy Giuliani's buddy, Bernie Kerick, to be Secretary of Homeland Security,. Kerick subsecquently withdrew and not long after was indicted.

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[Tommy_Carcetti]

84. Two legs good, four legs bad!!! n/t

[Mezzo]

21. so I turned on teh MSNBC and in under ten seconds, he says the MEDIA called Wright

his spiritual advisor. (wasn't it OBama who said that?) :think:

[LVjinx]

86. It's best not to turn on MSNBC and expect accurate reporting.

[LakeSamish706]

25. Once again the Hillbotts are out in force spreading there bullshit....

Thats all you morons know how to do... Dump on Obama, cause there is nothing good to say about your candidate...

Let me see now....

Lies
Slings mud
Can't manage her campaign money (and I'm sure much more)

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

26. For political reasons, of course.

But let me ask you this: Have you ever been in a situation where you've stuck up for someone who's done something wrong or something that's offended others? Have you then ever had that person come back, knowing that you'd stuck up for him or her, and do the same damned fool thing again? We've all been there at one point or another.

[oasis]

28. Rasputin Wright had Obama under his spell until just recently.

:rofl:

[stellanoir]

29. When people enter the public eye, they often change.

[Ganja Ninja]

30. Why is Hillary now against the war in Iraq?

Why wasn't she against it back in 2002-2003?

Answer: Because people have a right to change their minds as circumstances warrant.

It's not a crime or a character flaw. To the contrary, do you want another block headed President that won't admit he or she's wrong and will stubbornly cling to their bad decisions no matter how much it hurts the country?

[Beacool]

31. It wasn't politically convenient a month ago.

He probably didn't want to risk offending his base, but now that his political future could be on the line, he spoke like a "politician" (to quote Wright).

:eyes:

[oviedodem]

34. You should be OUTRAGED that your candidate is actually a republican.

[walldude]

38. Answer this.

Why is Obama's religion being used as a litmus test for being worthy of office? Have we stepped into the Twilight Zone? A place where Democrats have to prove their religious zeal to become president? Are you in that much of a hurry to hand this country over to the religious right? Good luck with that. Frankly you can take your religious rantings over to the other side of the isle. They love that shit over there.

[Hissyspit]

39. Who cares?

God, this is such an non-issue.

[The_Counsel]

40. Because The M$M Insisted That He Should Be.

That was the point of pummelling him on this 24/7.

Now watch: Obama's said his piece, but the M$M still won't let it go away. The only way they do is when Obama loses enough traction to guarrantee the brokered convention they've had a hard-on for since February.

All about the horse race, kids.

Giddyup. :eyes:

[Jed Dilligan]

41. Because it is stupid to be outraged over out-of-context soundbites,

less so when someone is going on the news and such. Is that clear enough for you?

[mmonk]

42. Because he is not Wright and the media is in a way saying he is

and Wright is giving "performances" upstaging Obama's campaign and message. Even people who go to the church say Wright is off on a tangent.

[rodeodance]

47. thats what happens with 20 years of close association. yup. BHO came across phony once again today.

[Buzz Clik]

45. Gee, YEM. You escaped my Ignore list this long.

I'll miss you. sniff, sniff.

[rodeodance]

46. delayed Outrage by BHO

[zulchzulu]

51. It looks like you're pissed you can't hang Wright on Obama's neck anymore

Yesterday's address by Wright was finally enough that Obama had to cut bait. The media, Clinton and McCain were all too eager to try to link what Wright says to Obama.

That's gone now.

:rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

52. Maybe he forgave him like Hillary did Bill?

:shrug:

[Barack_America]

53. Why are you posting about your "outrage" now and not a month ago?

I certainly hope you're not suggesting Obama is a TROLL!

[Bensthename]

56. If you were paying attention you would know Wright is on a anti-Obama capaign the last couple of day

[Secret_Society]

57. As Rev. Wirght said...Obama makes his decisions based on electability

The Teflon has worn off

[BlackVelvet04]

58. Because the talking heads said last night on t.v.

that he had to show some anger about the situation. He's a politician just like most politicians.

He KNEW Wright just fine. He KNEW what Wright was saying whether he heard it from the pulpit or not. And now, Wright dissed him and he threw him under the bus.

[barack the house]

60. Whatever it's done.

[ellacott]

61. What was he outraged about?

I think that would answer your question.

[SOS]

62. Wright started his media tour to destroy Obama on Sunday

Not in 1988.

[PoliticalAmazon]

63. Wright hadn't started his Hate-A-Palooza tour a month ago. n/t

[Milo_Bloom]

68. He was, or haven't you listened to anything he said?

[truthN08]

70. I'm new here

I just wanted to say the following. Why is Obama expected to know his pastor in and out and all that is in his heart and stand to be judged for having him as a pastor and yet Senator Clinton isn't being judged based on picking her husband of more than 20 years?

Senator Clinton's HUSBAND lied on camera to the american people
How come she isn't called on her judgment to not know the man she laid down with every night was having "sexual relations" with other women?
She is not judged for his 800k profit in the Colombia dealings.
She's not been judged about Mark Penn and his dealings.
Her judgment hasn't been called into questions about her husbands upcoming trial with Peter Paul.


It's been stated that Senator Clinton is NOT HER husband but Senator Obama is not his pastor. I'm sure Senator Clinton is closer to her husband that Obama has ever been to his Pastor. So if Senator Clinton gets as pass for not knowing all that her husband has done right under her nose why is it so hard for some to understand that you can go to a church and not know all that the pastor believes?

I was raised Catholic and NEVER walked out of the Catholic church yet I am pro choice.I believe in HUMAN rights so I don't think there should be "gay rights" because to me gays are NO DIFFERENT than me because they are human and should have all the same rights that I have period and it shouldn't have to be categorized as gay rights.

I am a black/hispanic woman raised in the catholic church who married a white Mormon and we have a 6 year old daughter. Like most people I take what I want from church and leave the rest. Maybe that makes me not a "devote" christian but I do what's in my heart and I believe Obama did the same.

If Senator Clinton and her supporters want the benefit of the doubt the same has to be given to Obama in my opinion.

[azmouse]

74. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

One reason HRC never left Bill is she knew she could never run for President if she divorced him. She needed his coattails to have even a slim chance of succeeding. History has shown that this is why she put up with him.
HRC cultist believe she has been fully vetted when the opposite is true. Obviously the Reps have a ton of undisclosed info that they can use against her and that is why they want her to win the nom. Obama threw wrench in their plans... thankfully.

[NatBurner]

82. let the church say amen

[durrrty libby]

71. "Why is Obama NOW outraged, but wasn't a month ago?"

Because the focus group just met:shrug:

[madfloridian]

72. Why did Bill Clinton have Monica under the desk in the oval office?

All kinds of questions....all kinds of stuff.

[LVjinx]

87. How is that relevant? Are you implying Wright and Obama have a sexual relationship?

Egads!

[madfloridian]

89. I am saying that is now considered fair game

[nuncvendetta]

75. Why didn't Hillary get outraged at Bill for his affairs until he finally had to admit them publicly?

Where was the "outrage" over Gennifer Flowers, Mrs. Arkansas, Paula Jones, and Lewinsky? Do you really buy her story that she truly thought it was a right-wing conspiracy and believed Bill until he told her one day shortly before confessing to the public?

[indimuse]

77. Barack is the kind of guy who will say politically what needs to be said regardless of what he beli

Uncle Jeremiah Wright was Right »
By Larry JohnsoncloseAuthor: Larry Johnson Name: Larry Johnson
Email: [e-mail]
Site: http://NoQuarterUSA.net

Boy did Reverend Wright call it correctly the other day. He indicated that Barack is the kind of guy who will say politically what needs to be said regardless of what he believes. Well, Barack proved him right. Two months ago he had never heard Wright say anything objectionable in 20 years. Now, apparently, in the last eight weeks, aliens have taken over the body and mind of Wright and he is saying things he has never said before. Right? Wrong.

What do you think?

UPDATE. Compare Obama’s statements today with what he said in the past. What has he learned about Wright in the last eight weeks that he did not know previously? Obama indicated he had heard Wright say objectionable things about the United States, but he could shrug it off during his Philly speech. I think we are seeing the emergence of a new illness–Obama Acquired Memory Recovery. He spent twenty years with Wright but really did not know that he held such objectionable views? He has spent approximately twenty years with William Ayers and barely knows the guy? He spent 18 years with Tony Rezko and barely knows him? Sure sounds like Obama does not know much of anything.



http://noquarterusa.net/blog/

[EffieBlack]

78. When Wright criticized America, he was ranting, raving

demagogue who couldn't be trusted.

When he criticizes Obama, he's WONDERFUL!

I see where you're coming from . . .

[SoCalDem]

81. Here's a link you might like

Click

[shayes51]

90. I'm so glad you posted this!

My husband and I were just saying the same thing at our dinner table. I bet we were not the only ones.

[zulchzulu]

92. You're BITTER because we took your stupid toy away

Awww...poor baby....

[2rth2pwr]

93. Maybe Sharpton's right. He likes to grandstand in front of white people.

The source said Sharpton had hoped Obama would "side with the Bell family" and not use it as an "opportunity to grandstand in front of white people."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/04292008/news/regionalnews/sharpton_raps_obama_108577.htm

[LSK]

94. WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT???

HOW DOES THIS GET US OUT OF IRAQ? HOW DOES THIS GET US HEALTHCARE?

[Maddy McCall]

95. Exactly. He knows this man like his father.

He's only denouncing him for political reasons.

[ksoze]

96. p-o-l-i-t-i-c-s

he miscalculated and hoped that the reverend would enhance his "hope" and new candidate image. When his camp saw the polls, they pulled him in spent a weeks teaching him how to act enraged and show some emotion and then sent him out.

[tabasco]

100. Why didn't Hillary apologize for her lies before the media shit storm?

That's the way it goes, Sweetie.