Change? Change, My Big, Fat, White Ass

[NashVegas]

Barack Obama's supporters' #1 reason for backing him, going back to January, is "he represents change." Rev. Jeremiah Wright's reappearance in the national media has given his former protege a chance to prove that, but instead we are seeing political campaigning as usual.

Last Friday night, Wright appeared on Bill Moyers' journal and said a great many things that liberals, populists, and other political grumblers have been saying for years. About corporate media. About Bush's war. About separation of church & state. About glossed over history written by the victors. Instead of cheering, however, Obama's supporters - those desperate for change people - have let out collective groans.

Even worse, Barack Obama took to the air waves today to further distance himself and do what he said he wouldn't before - denounce Wright - and lefties cheer.

As a Hillary Clinton backer, I'm both oddly thrilled and horrified by what's unfolding before our eyes. Barack Obama stood up and denounced all of the left's salient points of the last twenty years, and people who say they're backing him because he represents change think it's the bestest thing in the world. You see, I and others always believed he was selling snake oil all along. We just never imagined that those who were drinking the Kool-Aid were aware of what they were lapping up.

[Nederland]

1. That is precisely why he represents change

Obama represents a radical departure from the same old tired leftist arguments of the past 20 years.

[NashVegas]

4. Ah. Silly Me. I Thought It Was Washington That Needed Changing

Thanks for straightening me out :)

[Nederland]

16. You're welcome

I understand that many people have a great deal invested in a losing political ideology and those people will resist Obama. I have a little sympathy for them, because it is hard to finally get pushed out after all these years. In the big picture though, it needs to happen and I'm glad it finally will.

[Tyler Durden]

30. I resent that in the strongest possible terms.

I think BOTH of them are full of shit for precisely that reason.

The precepts of the Left have never had more meaning than now:

Protection of the Worker and jobs
Education
Health care for all as a right
Fair and graduated taxation

If none of these are on your agenda, then you got on the wrong train.

[Nederland]

38. They are all on my agenda

I simply have different solutions than those that have been proposed and tried by the left for the last 20 years, some of them for the last 50 years. Call me crazy, but I don't think that the solutions to today's problems are going to be found in a book written by a Prussian over 150 years ago. We need new idea and new solutions that are relevant to today. Obama represents that.

[Tyler Durden]

47. He's a CENTRIST.

She's a CENTRIST.

There are no SOLUTIONS in Marx, but HOPE AND CHANGE solve nothing. Try WORK AND SWEAT for our ideals.

Hope in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills first. BOTH have abandoned the Left, and when the smoke clears, the Left will still be here, agitating for real social justice.

What BULLSHIT this election is.

Here's to BOTH the campaigns...SUCKING MY DICK.

[Nederland]

51. Yes he is

And I'm glad to see it.

And you are correct, when the smoke clears the far Left will still be around--losers clinging to their failed ideas to the bitter end.

[Tyler Durden]

55. To paraphrase his buddy Ronald Reagan:

The middle of the road is the worst place to stand.

PISS on all Centrists. They Pander the worst wafflers in us all.

[NashVegas]

63. Speaking of Prussians

You *are* aware Obama's mother was described as a borderline communist, yes?

Getting awfully crowded under that bus.

[Nederland]

72. A lot of people back then were

It's not surprising given that most intellectuals during the 30's, 40's and 50's were communists. However, after the empirical evidence that communism didn't work began to accumulate, the realized their error and moved on. The only people that stayed communists were losers unable to come to grip with reality.

[DJ13]

2. Compared to Hillarys old fashioned DC insider politics Obama IS change

When you understand what that means, you'll finally come to terms with the reason Hillary is losing.

[NashVegas]

7. No, See, With Hillary, We Know What We're Getting

And don't have to play pretend.

[DJ13]

17. With Hillary, We Know What We're Getting

Yes, but no one wants to get screwed again by another corporate candidate.

As I said, when you figure out what kind of change people are voting Obama to get the sooner you'll understand why they didnt vote for Hillary.

[Booster]

43. Don't kid yourself. Obama is also a corporate candidate. They

all are.

[NashVegas]

46. Yes - Exactly

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[KittyWampus]

29. so you support a Neo-Con enabling War Pig who's happy to wallow in racist garbage. LOL

[NashVegas]

39. No, I Don't Support Obama - the Guy With the U Chicago Financial Advisor - At All

[redqueen]

40. Ironic, isn't it?

I guess lots of folks prefer the devil we know.

Me? I'm willing to try something new.

[Andy823]

76. Yep, we sure do!

And that's why so many people are voting for Obama, they know what they would get with Hillary, and they don't like it!

Hillary also is running on "CHANGE", what will kind of change is she going to give us?

[islandmkl]

3. your last paragraph is pure RW-to-Hillary bullshit...

if anyone on this political scene has done more (from the Democratic side) to undo ANY liberal achievements of the LAST 40 YEARS...

IT'S THE CLINTONS....

just fucking delusional...

[redqueen]

41. It's stunning, isn't it?

Almost unbelievable... almost.

[AndyA]

5. None of the candidates running represent change.

It's just something they put out for the masses to consume, and consume they do, without question.

All of the candidates who represented REAL CHANGE are no longer running.

We must make HISTORY, to hell with fixing the PROBLEMS. We must be a part of a historical defining moment.

Too bad that when people look back at this point, they'll likely wonder WTF was wrong with everybody... :shrug:

Ignore the crack in the dam, just give it a new coat of paint and call it done.

[earth mom]

67. Sad that after 7+ nightmarish years, we're looking at more of the same.

Edwards and Gore would have made the changes this country really needs, but they've been scared off.

Make no mistake about that.

I agree with this post and the post up thread that said this entire presidential campaign is bullshit.

And you know the reason why?

It's because the candidates were chosen by the corporate media aka the GOP.

:puke:

[JackORoses]

6. Big Fat White Asses for Hillary!

[mindfulNJ]

LOL!!!

:rofl:

[Window]

8. Ewwww.

[grasswire]

9. so where will the elite left go now?

This is getting confusing.

[Leftist Agitator]

10. Zionists.

My response has as much substance as your OP.

Just in case you didn't get it, here it is again, "Zionists".

:eyes:

[thevoiceofreason]

11. I'm gonna hide your ass now.

[Yael]

49. We are at level 1 apparently

Its back.

:cry:

[matcom]

12. sorry your ass is so fat

your judgement sucks too

[Bonobo]

13. It was necessary for you to declare the color of your ass?

[DevonRex]

24. LOL! I really didn't need that picture in my head. And it was

totally redundant for her to mention her skin color. :)

[Barack_America]

14. Meanwhile, Hillary preps for her appearance on Bill O'Reilly...

What's that you were saying about abandoning liberal talking points?

[writes3000]

15. I wouldn't call your ass big or fat. And since I don't like personal insults...

Off to ignore you go.

PS - you should apologize to your ass.

[Cali_Democrat]

18. FATTY!!!!!!!!!!

Stop using crisco

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[NashVegas]

28. You're An Idiot

Who can't spell.

[PVnRT]

20. LOL Two days ago, Wright was evil in the eyes of Clinton supporters

Now he's a hero, and Obama is a bad guy for distancing himself, which is what the same people were saying he had to do earlier. Huzzah, doublethink!

[NashVegas]

31. Put That Star to Good Use

And you can find my Friday night post about Wright.

[americanstranger]

45. It's a damned good thing I'm sitting down reading this thread.

People are switching their positions (hypocrisy be damned!) so quick I swear it's making me dizzy.

If I wasn't reading this stuff with my own eyes and someone told me about it, I'd never believe it.

- as

[LVjinx]

58. No, we still think Wright is evil. And now Obama has said so himself.

How can we reconcile that with his "historic" race speech last month, that did everything possible to change the subject rather than address the issues?

[PVnRT]

21. Double post d00m

[PBS Poll-435]

22. I guess you could say that GWB represented change...

And you would be right.

What a fucking disaster.

[SeaLyons]

23. The snake oil salesman has to come knocking once again...

ooooops...just kidding, I guess I can throw the pastor under the bus afterall.

[KittyWampus]

25. you had your fucking talking points no matter what Obama would do. Fuck You to anyone willing

to pursue this bullshit.

You and your candidate are a disgrace to the Democratic Party.

[Umbram]

35. Exactly right.

The response to Obama's not speaking out against Wright was predictable.
The response to Obama's speaking out against Wright was predictable.

Either way it was going to be spun as negative.

[JTFrog]

26. Senator Vitter is that you?

[dionysus]

27. bitter shillbot needs banky!!!

[DevonRex]

32. Aw, that is SO cute. Too cute for bitter you know what. nt

[NashVegas]

34. Judging By Some of the Reactions To This Post

I'd say I'm pretty dead on if the insults are this bad.

[dionysus]

36. naw, people don't like to smell horseshit while they're eating lunch...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. So what's Britney Spears up to these days?

I figured you would know, you seem more interested in media soap operas than political issues.

[cali]

37. yuck. I want nothigng to do with your (disingenuous) flabby white ass,big boy.

And stop trying to tell Obama supporters why we support him. I don't support him because of change. That's never been a primary reason for my support.

Wright threw Obama under the bus. He was busy as a bee sabotaging him. Obama responded. Thank goodness.

[snooper2]

42. Maybe you should get off the Internets...

and go walk around the block a couple times...Then, you wouldn't have such a fat ass :rofl:




GOBAMA!

[Renaissance Man]

44. My Big, Fat, White, Ass?

OK, I'm not sure what that has to do with anything, but Sen. Obama's speech ties right into his campaign theme. He's changing the game of political distractions so people can focus on the real issues. We wouldn't want to distract you from flag pins made in China, and what not.

[Maribelle]

48. Nor did we imagine they didn't know ...

they were supposed to rub the snake oil on their skin and not drink it.

[Blue_In_AK]

50. Centrist, Centrist, Centrist

They both are, and I'm really not pleased with either.

But what are you going to do...this country's going to hell in a handbasket anyway. We just need to survive.

[NashVegas]

54. True, True, True

And yet it's shocking that the one whose supporters are constantly claiming the liberal high ground ...

[butterfly77]

52. Maybe you need to invest in a treadmill?

[Boxerfan]

53. Has a "Big White Ass" & is named Crisco???

You are grossing me waaay out...

[zulchzulu]

56. Aww...now you can't bring up Wright anymore... that's just too damn bad...

Obama cut ties with Wright in terms of his recent comments that the MSM, Hillary and Johnny McLame tried link to Obama.

What Wright said is what Obama thought....NOT ANYMORE!!!!

:rofl:

[NashVegas]

57. I'll Bring Up Wright Whenever I Damn Well Please, In Whatever Way I Please

Have a lovely afternoon!

[LVjinx]

59. New to politics? Or just naive?

Obama still has 20 years to answer for. And should we all act surprised when Wright says "I don't see what he's mad about now, he's never had a problem with my sermons before... Always congratulated me on them, and he's heard it all before."

[shayes51]

60. At least we did not get our BFWA's

drinking Kool-Aid.
:toast:

[NashVegas]

62. Very True!

And I'm not as fond of Yeungling as I was in my misspent youth.

[Rubiconski2009]

61. 100 years of war with McCain or nuclear war with Clinton? Hmm choices...

One thing I hope Obama WOULD NOT DO. That is go on TV and threaten to obliterate another nation for a strictly hypothetical situaion. What the hell is the purpose in that? Is that not for discusssion between nations out of the public view to avoid escalating tenstions? She is losing it.

[GoldieAZ49]

64. Obama likes waffles and waffling, his followers like the flip flop on Wright

It is a freakin comedy show, Wright will refute him, this is just about to go Jerry Springer style

[guyanakoolaid]

65. That's all you Clintonites need... to wave flip-flops in the air... that would be just about right

[GoldieAZ49]

66. just about Wright

:rofl:

[Raine]

68. "Big fat white ass" ... oh geesh

that's an image I didn't need. :freak: TMI ...

[barack the house]

69. Has Obama ever ridiculed Hillary's voters or used her personal flaws to get ahead. That'steh change.

Tearing folks downdoesn't build a nation it destroysit.

[NashVegas]

70. That's Pretty Funny

When in doubt how to proceed, keep accusing Clinton and Clinton supporters of Obama's craptastic tactics.

[whatchamacallit]

71. Do you also have a big, fat, white hood?

Just wondering...

[NashVegas]

73. I Have No Idea What You Mean

Could you clarify, please?

[uponit7771]

74. So is your conentention that Wright was constructive in what he said during the Q&A session?

Thx in advance

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

75. Your ass wouldn't be so big and fat if you didn't like Spam so much.