Dyllyn
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Tue Apr-29-08 02:47 PM
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The Proof is in the Pudding The SD's are all moving to Obama . He is less than 20 behind despite MSM |
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Obama is cutting Hill's SD lead almost by the hour . Everytime the media or Hill kick him to the ground an SD comes to the rescue . God Bless America folks . There Times they are a changing . What is sad and I mean this as a Clinton lover . Bill brought us 8 good years and they are destroying the love people have for them by trying to destroy a fellow party member and my guess a friend .
Get this straight folks Obama supporters have said nasty things about Hillary but Obama has not . That is a fact . He has not attacked her on anything personal. I hope she remembers that when this is over and I hope and pray she will do everything in her power to get Obama elected . She owes him that much seeing as she is currently the Republicans greatest asset against him come November.
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Tue Apr-29-08 02:48 PM
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1. Super Delegates were a bad idea until they started to favor Obama. Interesting! nt |
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:02 PM
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4. They are a bad idea. I don't know what the OP has to do with that fact. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:26 PM
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15. Without SDs, this would have been over a month ago |
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as it should have been. While there may be some wisdom in a council of elders to come to the fore if the normal nomination process can't sort things out adequately, that was not the case this cycle. The primaries and caucuses were able to produce a clear victor. And what about this rag tag mob the party calls Superdelegates. Those aren't a council of elders. Hell, many of them aren't even identified yet. This is an asinine system that must be changed, even if it doesn't royally mess things up this time around.
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:11 PM
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22. without proportional bullshit, it would have been over a month ago too... |
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:02 PM
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Superdelegates in general isn't what's a bad idea. Throwing their overwhelming support behind the candidate that's behind in every other metric is.
Hell, the only reason Hillary had more than 200 in her corner by January is because most of them owed Bill a favor or three. S'okay, though... ;)
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:16 PM
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7. I'm for getting rid of the supers. 100%. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:40 PM
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18. We don't need no House of Lords making decisions for us! nt |
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:42 PM
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19. Very well, lets go solely on Pledged Delegates. |
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Change it for next time, you sound petty complaining about it now.
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:17 PM
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8. No, super delegates were part of the rules from the beginning. See, Obama supporters don't support |
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changing the rules in the middle of the contest.
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Tue Apr-29-08 02:49 PM
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2. I notice that HRC supporters keep overlooking this. |
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The superdelegates are HRC's only possible path to the nomination, and she's losing them every day. Once those are gone, she'll be behind Obama in every conceivable metric that exists, besides combativeness and resume-padding.
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Dyllyn
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:10 PM
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21. I keep missing you but I have to tell you we have the same name. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:19 PM
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23. It's not really my name. |
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I hope you don't mind me abusing it.
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Dyllyn
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:33 PM
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26. That's fine . Go for it !!!! |
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Tue Apr-29-08 02:57 PM
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Hillary wants to live by the Superdelegate Sword, but instead, she will 'die' by it.
(Notice I had to put die in quotes so no rabid Hillarite reports me to the FBI.)
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:15 PM
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6. She will die by the sword, or the superdelegates voting against the will of the people will! |
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Either way, we get rid of some of those in government that are working against the principles of democracy that this party is supposed to espouse.
I think most super delegates realize this and know that they shouldn't put their careers on the line just to "pay back a favor" to the Clintons.
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:17 PM
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9. You are wrong, Hillary has also gotten Super D. endorsements and just scored one today. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:18 PM
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10. Since PA: 7 for Obama... 4 for Clinton..... |
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:19 PM
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11. true, however the OP says "All". Not true. |
Dyllyn
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:22 PM
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13. Fair point . However at a rate of 2 to 1 that will do nicely |
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She really needs it to be 3 to 1 for her
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:22 PM
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12. Good post and a wise observation! |
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Oh, and welcome to DU Dyllyn! :hi: :pals:
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Dyllyn
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:23 PM
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I feel Obama needs all the help he can get in his hour of need
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:36 PM
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16. We're at MAGIC NUMBER time |
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Obama has 1729, needs 2024 to clinch
That's just 295 needed.
There are 297 superdelegates left.
Obviously if Obama wins all the remaining SDs he doesn't have to win another delegate in a primary or caucus.
Or going the other way, there are 408 pledged delegates left to assign. If he won 73% of the remaining contests, he wouldn't need a single additional SD. That' isn't going to happen, of course. But what is more likely is that he'll get about half of the remaining pledged delegates.
That would leave him needing only 93 more superdelegates. Considering Dean is pushing for this to be wrapped up by June, that means that there should be about 200 declarations in the next 40 days -- about 5 a day. It gets interesting now.
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:36 PM
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17. Thank you we appreciate that. I feel overall our side has tried to respect your side as voters,.. |
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Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 03:38 PM by barack the house
Just disagred with campaign tactics towards our candidate. Which isn't unreasonable, really.
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Tue Apr-29-08 03:53 PM
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20. I wonder why the only SD endorsement I've heard about on tv today was Hillary's when Obama got at |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:26 PM
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24. It can't come soon enough. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:27 PM
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25. "she is currently the Republicans greatest asset against him come November." |
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Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 04:43 PM by kenny blankenship
Let's face it: She's the ONLY HOPE Republicans have.
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