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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:48 PM
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Funny Math, Part I, The Obama-Clinton Story
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 03:29 PM by davidswanson
Obama has 1,491 pledged delegates. Clinton has 1,332 pledged delegates. There remain 408 delegates to be pledged, plus 19 that have been pledged to Edwards. Clinton would need to win by a gap of 39 percent to catch up to Obama - not the "huge win" of 9 percent that she had in Pennsylvania.

These numbers are based on leaving out Florida and Michigan, which are being left out.

These numbers do not include Super Delegates.

But these are the indisputable numbers of delegates assigned to candidates by actual voters and caucus-goers.

Clinton cannot win. Period. She can only hope for an anti-democratic coup by Super Delegates that would destroy the Democratic Party.

So, why did we see "Clinton Wins" headlines all over the nation following her pick-up of 20 delegates in Pennsylvania?

When has any other candidate been kept on life-support by media corporations in this way? Hasn't the standard for dropping out always been - for every other candidate - the impossibility of winning, not actually having lost?

What can Clinton hope to gain from staying in other than hurting Obama's chances in order to avoid his running as an incumbent in 4 years?

And why is it so difficult for people to think for themselves and let the media and the Super Delegates and the Democratic Party know that WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH?

Don't believe me? Don't know how to do addition? Don't own a calculator? Here's a video of Chris Matthews admitting the media's role in this farce:
http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/32937

Here's how you can contact the DNC: 877-336-7200 or
http://www.democrats.org/contact.html
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 02:57 PM
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1. Don't try to change the rules mid-game.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 02:59 PM by tritsofme
1627 ≠ 2024

Superdelegates can look at whatever variables they please in choosing a nominee.

Whether it is popular vote, pledged delegates, electability, ect
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:01 PM
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2. Not to mention.....
....they are all subject to change!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:18 PM
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4. WHen have they been known, in 30 years, to overturn popular vote and pledged delegates?
?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:32 PM
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5. They probably won't have to overturn the popular
to give Hillary the nomination.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:42 PM
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9. At this point, I'm afraid they would n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:02 PM
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3. Rec'd! "When has any other candidate been kept on life-support ..."
I'd like an answer to that, too. I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired of Clinton.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 03:36 PM
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6. The rules are different for Hillary. Damn the party! Just ask, Terry "It's her turn" McAuliffe.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:12 PM
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7. Well, You do know, "if this was a Republican Primary, I'd have the nomination by now."
sez HRC.

And I just heard some Chicago Tribute journo lady try to push that again on Nora O'Donnell this afternoon.
But alas, she said, Hillary Clinton, "has to play by the **Democrats'** rules".

Ah yes. But for THAT. Poor DEM Hillary, stuck with the rules of the DEMS..

:sarcasm:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 04:19 PM
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8. The remaining states aren't going to be shocking or unpredictable.
Obama will remain ahead in the total delegate count and the gap between his and hers will slightly increase. The relatively small number of remaining delegates will announce between now and the end of June. Obama will win.

The race is over. We're going through the motions so that the media has something to talk about and Hillary has a chance to get some money to pay off her debts. HILLARY CLINTON KNOWS ITS OVER. SHE KNOWS SHE WILL NOT BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. If there are suckers who want to hang on to the fantasy and keep writing her checks, go right ahead.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 06:53 PM
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10. Kick
:kick:

Our esteemed former First Lady will have to face reality sooner or later.
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