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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:20 AM
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Kerry Polling Memo: Vice Presidential and Convention Aftermath
***POLLING MEMO***

John Kerry’s selection of John Edwards has been exceptionally well-received by the public, and the ticket holds a narrow lead over Bush-Cheney. However, since John Kerry was already in a much stronger position than challengers have been in the past, we do not expect a significant bounce in the horserace from either the Vice Presidential selection or the convention.

Voters Have Demonstrated Strong Support For Senator Edwards’ Selection

In the CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll, 64% of voters gave the choice a positive rating. In 2000, a smaller 55% gave similar ratings to Bush’s selection of Cheney. Seventy percent (70%) of voters said they were “enthusiastic” or “satisfied” by the addition of Edwards to the Democratic ticket.

A strong majority of voters (57%) believe Edwards is qualified to serve as President – the same percentage (57%) as believed Cheney was qualified when he was selected in 2000. Moreover, 64% say Edwards’ selection reflects favorably on Kerry’s ability to make important Presidential decisions.

Kerry-Edwards Maintains A Lead

Averaging together the four polls conducted since the selection yields a 3-point lead (48% to 45%) for Kerry-Edwards over Bush-Cheney.

The Vice Presidential And Convention Bounce Is Likely To Be Limited

Despite the high ratings for the Edwards pick, we do not anticipate a substantial bounce in the horserace as a result of either the selection, or the convention. Challengers sometimes get convention and Vice Presidential selection bounces because they have not consolidated their partisan base. Most recent polls show John Kerry already getting 82%-89% of the Democratic vote. Thus, there is little base left for John Kerry to consolidate. He has already accomplished that goal.

Sometimes challengers get a big “convention” bounce because of events that have nothing to do with the conventions. Going into the 1992 convention, Bill Clinton was running third and Ross Perot was getting 30% of the vote. During the Democratic Convention, Perot dropped out, temporarily increasing Clinton’s margin by a net 28 points. Clinton’s gain had less to do with the convention and lots to do with Perot, but Republicans gleefully use that swing to boost their “convention bounce” calculation.

More important, even before the convention and his selection of John Edwards, John Kerry was already in much stronger position than most challengers have been coming out of their conventions. Since 1956, on average, elected incumbents have gone into the Vice Presidential selection and convention season with a 16.6 percentage point lead. Bush strategist Matt Dowd admits that, at worst, Bush and Kerry are even. This puts Kerry far ahead of where other challengers have been going into their conventions, and puts Bush far behind the traditional mark.

Even after the challengers’ convention the average elected incumbent has led by 6 percentage points. Thus, anything less than a 6 point lead for Bush after the Democratic Convention will indicate weakness for Bush by historical standards.

Indeed, only three incumbents in the past 50 years have been behind the challenger after the challengers’ conventions - - and all three have ended up losing on Election Day (G.H.W. Bush, Carter and Ford). By historical standards then, if this George Bush does not have a solid lead after the Democratic Convention, history would suggest he is likely to lose.

In short, Kerry-Edwards is not likely to get a substantial bounce from the Edwards pick or the Democratic Convention because John Kerry already had more support than most challengers get, even after their conventions.

We do, however, hope to increase the number of people who know about John Kerry’s record, values, and plans.

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Paid for by John Kerry for President, Inc.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:21 AM
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1. It's good that they are trying to keep expectations realistic
Some on the GOP side, like Joe Scarborough, are trying to kill them with massively inflated predictions of their lead.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:26 AM
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2. Oh gawd, I'm getting so nervous...
One day I'm up the next day I'm down.

Please, please please please please win Kerry! Please!

david
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:48 AM
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6. No need. What this says is Kerry already had a lead
and Edwards has simply solidified it.
I have read a lot of anecdotes the past 2 days of swing voters saying Kerry's choice has sealed the deal and they will no longer support Bush.
IOW, Kerry is consolidating support that was tentative. He is getting stronger!
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 12:11 PM
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7. I know I know, but everything is on the line here
I can't explain how much I can't stand George Jr. and his cronies, and I don't want my 2 year old to grow up in a world where George Jr. is the type of leader we accept.

If Kerry wins, I hope and pray that he actually does EVERYTHING he can to disperse this inane partisanship and division we have going on, or it's gonna just be another very ugly 4-8 years with more Clintonesque-bashing, name calling, demonizing for trivial things.

The last 4 years have been disappointments for me straight across the board politically. George Jr., regaining the Senate just to lose it again, 2002 losses, California recall. Everytime I get interested, involved and particularly excited about an election I always lose!

4 more months to hold my breath and try to help...

david
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 01:50 PM
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8. Even that AP poll, the most pro-Bush of the four just released
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 02:07 PM by lancdem
says Kerry has solidified his support and strengthened himself in the South. This memo makes some excellent points. It's a nice counterpoint to the BS put out by Bush pollster Matthew Dowd saying Kerry should lead by 15 after the convention.

I also think the Edwards pick energizes Dems in a way that will help turnout on election day, which is what's important.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:28 AM
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3. Great Summary - Thanks for posting - calms one down a lot! :-)
:-)
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:34 AM
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4. Outstanding to know
because reading the media on line, they make it sound like Kerry should be enjoying a 17 point lead right now, so his pick was a failure.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 11:42 AM
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5. Awesome. All according to plan, so far, it seems. Savvy campaigners.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 02:03 PM
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9. Sounds good.
Let's not get cocky.

Not that we would.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 03:18 PM
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10. Thanks for posting this
Edited on Fri Jul-09-04 03:19 PM by fujiyama
It might be easy for some to get somewhat dissapointed that Kerry isn't 15 point ahead already, but we shouldn't get our hopes up way too high.

Another thing to keep in mind is that Edwards, as good a pick as he has been, isn't necessarily a surprising choice. I mean, sure many of us may have expected Gephardt, but Edwards name was talked about in the media for weeks since the primaries.

I myself also wasn't surprised when I heard it that morning -- just kinda relieved that it wasn't Gephardt (who would have been more of a "I guess he has some strengths", ho-hum candidate).

Edwards's main strengths are: 1) complementing Kerry's own speaking style, which can be dull at times. 2) solidifying the democratic base. 3) that he has shown he can draw independants and moderates, while not alienating liberals in the party.

That's pretty much all we could hope for. Some more national security/ foreign policy experience may have been desirable, but Edwards has been on some important commitees (intelligence commitee for one I think).
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Crachet2004 Donating Member (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 03:28 PM
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11. Yeah, and I'll bet they get a NEGATIVE bounce from their convention...
Once people realize it means four more years of Bush and Dick Cheney.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-04 05:08 PM
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12. gop is predicting a fifteen point Kerry bounce ... expectation management.
We can probably expect to split the difference and look for a 5 to 10 point bounce from the convention.
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