You know what bugs me more than sheeple who'll believe anything...

[rucky]

because I really don't think there are as many of those people as we like to say there are.

What bugs me more are the people who think most people are sheeple who'll believe anything. So when they know they're being fed a line of bullshit, they throw up their arms and mark the scoreboard because they think that there are too many sheeple who'll buy the bullshit. They don't get angry about it. That's politics. They don't try to set anything straight. What's the use?

And what I hate worse than that are people who repeat the bullshit - knowing it's bullshit - in order to gain something for their agenda.

And what I hate worse than that are the people who actually sat in a room to create the bullshit and the bullshit dissemenation plan.

No shit.

[JuniperLea]

1. The psychology of fear, of control...

Of politics... all the same. That's why people talk in terms of Kool Aid and of Sheeple... some of us are more susceptable to the manipulation than others.

The bullshit creators and disseminators are the scum of the Earth, IMHO. They prey on us all.

[rucky]

3. The fearful are the ones

who can break the control. Simply by speaking the truth. We have no bullshit to fear but fear of bullshit itself.

[spoony]

4. Good line!

[redqueen]

6. K&R

:thumbsup:

[iiibbb]

2. Fine line

Between sheeple and lazy thinkers. Most people are lazy. Most of todays issues are too complicated for most people to make an intelligent decision. Thus sheeple and people are virtually indistiquishable.

Then it just comes down to whether you are a pessimist or a optimist, cynical or trusting.

I'm a little of all.

[FlyingSquirrel]

5. I'll give ya your first rec

Baaaaaa!

[sandnsea]

7. Yeah, all of that n/t

[info being]

8. We're either outraged or outraged by the outrage

...or something like that.

Commercial media isn't credible simply because it is corporate. Corporations will always have a pro-corporate bias. Why? Because they are corporations and that's what they do. It can be no other way.

Lots of people realize this and we don't have to imagine that most people take this stuff seriously. It's actually kind of funny...

1) Corporate media comes up with a ridiculous topic to distract us
2) Those who think their side benefits from said issue pretends it is terribly important
3) Those who think their side is hurt from the issue argues fervently against it

It is as though both sides imagine an audience of naive bystanders or observers who is likely to be swayed one way or the other. In reality, those people aren't even paying attention.

If Obama can't overcome this nonsense, then there is nothing he could have done to change anything about how this country works.

Then again, maybe the whole election is, itself, nothing but a distraction to make us feel we have some say in the matter of how this world is "governed".

[rucky]

10. outrageous, isn't it.

You described perfectly what I was trying to say.

It's kind of like that movie The Piano. Total piece of crap, but nobody was going to say that out loud because of what the critics were saying about it.

[unpossibles]

9. while I agree there are not as many of them as is often suggested

I do think they are a "powerful" group in that they are a target for everyone - everyone wants them to follow because they are easily lead. Basically like society's undecided swing voters.

But I really go back and forth on this. Sometimes I am optimistic about human nature, and like to look at the moments in history when the masses have said "ENOUGH!!" and thrown off the shackles of the over-class.

Other times, I look at things like the Celebrity BS, the popularity of really awful quality things/people, etc., and it depresses me.