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Tue Apr-29-08 04:29 PM
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Who baptized Obama? I had assumed Wright; heard that refuted today. |
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I had always assumed that Obama was baptized by Wright, and I had not thought about it until I heard several comments the last couple of days saying that Wright did not baptize Obama, although he married them and baptized their daughters. So I looked quickly and could find no answer to the question, other than another general statement that implied more than it actually said. It now seems strange that when the rumors that he was Muslim first appeared that he didn't just point to his baptism.
So does anyone know when/where Obama was baptized? If not Wright, then who? It would have been at least before Harvard Law. Because of his description of his mother, et al, I find it unlikely he was baptized as an infant.
While quickly looking for an answer to that question, I found another question related to why did he go to Chicago and such. Did he get the job in the law firm through ties his mother had in Hawaii and professionally (anthropology) with Frank Marshall Davis and his brother W. Allison Davis and his son Allison S. Davis? Anyone know how all this fits together?
I often feel that Obama's life story glosses over all sorts of things, even when there does not appear to be any reason to do so. I find it very hard to sort some things out.
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:32 PM
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How is that anyone's business or relevant to anything?
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:46 PM
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16. My first thought as well... |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:33 PM
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2. Wait until the GE and see the sort of microscope he'll be under. |
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If you have one question, I can assure you the Republican attack machine will have a thousand more to ask with the intent to insinuate he's everything from a communist to a anarchist.
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:46 PM
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14. Joe McCarthy, is that you? |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:33 PM
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3. Why is this even relevant |
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and of what business is it of anyone but Obama?
Really.
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:34 PM
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4. Wright married the Obamas, baptised the Obama children. |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:34 PM
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5. No, Wright just baptised his kids. |
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Obama was baptised by Mullah Omar and Louis Farrakhan in the blood of puppies. White puppies. Who loved America.
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Tue Apr-29-08 05:01 PM
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19. Keyboard Damage Alert! |
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Tue Apr-29-08 05:36 PM
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:36 PM
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6. Who cares ~the Catholic Priests baptized a lot of people |
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and those same priest were guilty of harming children.
Let's go back and see who baptisted the little boys.
This is a stick on stupid issue.
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:36 PM
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"Because of his description of his mother, et al, I find it unlikely he was baptized as an infant."
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:41 PM
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And a big so what ... are you trying to imply something??? |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:43 PM
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10. Are you talking to me by mistake? |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:40 PM
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8. maybe he wasn't baptized. |
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i had a friend who accepted jesus, but kept putting off her baptism. don't know whether she ever did it.
i was baptized catholic when i was a week old. now i'm an atheist. so what does any of it mean?
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:43 PM
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11. My sister wasn't baptised; doesn't make her bad. nt |
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Tue Apr-29-08 05:20 PM
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20. of course not. my step daugther |
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was not baptized either. my mother-in-law (a catholic) freaked at the time.
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:41 PM
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9. who baptized hillary and bill and chelsea? |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:43 PM
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:45 PM
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13. Good question, and I could be wrong but I think his name was John |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:48 PM
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17. not that it matters but he's known Wright for 20 years, and Obama's older than that ... |
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Tue Apr-29-08 04:48 PM
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18. I'm trying to imagine myself caring either way... |
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I've failed.
But far more interesting, and if you could look into this it would be great, is: When was the first time Obama ever tried a Pastrami? Did he put mustard on it?
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Tue Apr-29-08 06:01 PM
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22. In many churches Pastors don't baptize adults |
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If it's a large congregation they sometimes let the Elders and Deacons do it.
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Tue Apr-29-08 06:02 PM
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23. John the Baptist...of course. nt. |
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:26 PM
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25. No you are thinking of McLame........n/t |
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:22 PM
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24. I need to correct something in my original post |
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I made the mistake of using the internet as a source of information.
I was wrong in when I said that Frank Marshall Davis who knew Obama in Hawaii was the brother of W. Allison Davis, the Chicago professor and father of the senior partner in Obama's law firm. I cannot say if they were related in any way or that they knew each other in Chicago (although the latter would seem quite possible).
Obama's connections with each Davis is interesting in itself. I had read several things online that claimed they were brothers. I did not do my normal diligence when I quickly added that to a barely-related posting. Sorry about that; don't mean to contribute to the level of misinfo already out there.
The only reason for the baptism question initially was that I read various articles and statements which had implied Rev. Wright had baptized Barack so I was now a bit confused. When I quickly searched to see if I could find an answer, not only did I not find an answer, I ran into more of that swamp of "Obama is a Muslim" things. I can promise you that this is a big "whisper" issue in NC and affects a lot of white voters. It would be nice to have a straight answer to refute the current flavors of that claim; snopes and such are inadequate. I preferred Edwards, but I am a strong Dem and expect that my vote for our nominee in November will be for Obama. We need clean, clear, and solid responses to counteract various claims against any of our candidates.
The early versions of the OisaM emails were wildly over the top: radical Muslim, madrassa, etc. Those versions are debunked at snopes and elsewhere. The newer versions are more subdued and backed by various MSM articles and even a quote or two from Obama, that are not obviously debunked. With the recent spotlight on Rev. Wright, questions about his religion are everywhere. The newer versions use claim that Obama received Muslim instruction at the public school he attended for two years in Indonesia (two hours a week). (Obviously, he received Christian instruction when attending the Catholic school the previous two years.) He and his friends might have tagged along to evening prayers with their fathers sometimes. While none of this would "make" Obama a Muslim, it provides the kernel that grows into some of the current claims against him. I have no way to verify any of this except through various MSM articles here and in the UK.
Obama's step-father was apparently rather secular and was described as more interested in having a drink around the pool at his club than in anything revolutionary or religious. One article discussed that his step-father became more western as his mother became more Indonesan. Obama may have left himself open to some of this when he simplified the story of himself and his parents. Another example is that he glosses over that his mother attended middle and high school near Seattle rather than Kansas.
BTW the new emails attempt to link Rev Wright, the NOI, etc. back to all of this. There are other ones linking Obama to all sorts of radicals, commies, and subversives of all types; these also need better debunking.
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