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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:06 PM
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KO...Leave the Edwards alone !
Geebus....saw he was going after them in his opening promo.

I'm sad.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:07 PM
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1. for what?
Guess he can't deal with going after Obama, so he'll go after the Edwards.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:07 PM
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2. KO has greatly disappointed me recently.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:08 PM
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3. I haven't watched Keith in quite some time...
He just started really annoying me suddenly. If he's going after John and Elizabeth, I'm glad I'm not watching.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:11 PM
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4. How about waiting to hear what KO has to say before you start trashing him?
Or is reasonableness suddenly too much to ask of KO haters?
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:12 PM
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6. OK....but he sounded pissed...oy
Probably typical of Obama supporters, eh?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:13 PM
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10. Excuse me?
What does one have to do with the others?

Red Herring attacks are for the weak. You are better than that.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:20 PM
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19. Oh brother...
Get a grip. Your 'girl' can't win.
You're the one who should be angry at her crappy campaign if she was such a shoe-in but never has had the lead in the race for one single day.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:12 PM
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5. Probably going after them because they're not worshipping at the altar of the Messiah - as he is.
KO kisses BHO's ass every night, and slams Hillary for being alive.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:14 PM
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11. I've noticed.
He's bashing Easley now with a newsbunny. Oy.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:16 PM
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13. Isn't that the truth?
He seems angry all the time, too.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:12 PM
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7. Is he upset that they won't endorse?
Since he virtually ignored Edwards while he was in the race, it seems a bit much that he would turn on them now.

However, please let us know what's going on.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:18 PM
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16. I thought when Edwards was in the race KO seemed to favor him.
And KO seemed disappointed when he dropped out.

Guess some only see what they want to see and HRC people only seem to see anger everywhere.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:22 PM
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22. No, I was an Edwards person. I felt that he rarely mentioned Edwards.
I'll overlook your snarky comment because perhaps you didn't know that. I wore an Edwards button for months and was crushed when he dropped out of the primaries (right after I'd donated to him too). I felt that Edwards was also relatively overlooked by Stephanie Miller, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow, and Randi Rhodes. None of them had anything really bad to say about Edwards, but they were all much more caught up in the Obama/Clinton story. It was more interesting to them. Thom Hartmann mentioned Edwards a lot, but he was the only one. I did watch Olbermann a lot and was frustrated that he rarely, rarely talked about JRE.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:26 PM
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25. So you feel it was all of the media that ignored Edwards
but you'll take it out on KO.

I agree that Edwards did not get the attention he deserved and Edwards was the first candidate I supported.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:35 PM
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35. No, I'm not "taking it out" on KO. I think they are all culpable.
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 07:37 PM by LisaM
And I stopped listening to Stephanie Miller's three-hour Obama ads and Randi Rhodes' vicious diatribes against Hillary about the same time that I stopped watching KO when he opened up show after show with five anti-Hillary stories.

But this was all after Edwards dropped out. I don't think they even meant to ignore Edwards. But they all got caught up in the hype of the Clinton/Obama dynamics and Edwards just didn't get the face time.

I continued to watch KO and listen to the other shows for a while, but felt after a time I was getting nothing constructive from any of them. I don't consider no longer watching or listening to a show that bothers me is "turning on" someone. I just got over having people I liked working hard to divide their own audiences for the sake of what they think is entertainment value.


I still listen to Thom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:33 PM
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31. I was also an edwards supporter and he was very sympathetic
to edwards...so I guess you were not watching too closley...
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:45 PM
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45. KO had him on once or twice, but largely ignored him in the daily discussions
Ticked me off, too.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:13 PM
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8. For their non-endorsement?
It isn't any of his business, IMO.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:16 PM
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12. We'll see, the promo was ugly....
:hi: Yael, miss the Edwards days with you 1

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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:17 PM
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14. Me too
:hug:

Love your flower. It makes your posts look happy. :)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:38 PM
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40. Thanks sweetie...see you on the "other" side....lol....
Not sure what I meant, probably we'll survive primary season afterall :toast:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:43 PM
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43. You bet we will survive this
We are all wandering around the big tent playing bumper cars right now. Regardless of who ends up with this thing -- we WILL all come back together for some good old fashioned McCain bashing.

:evilgrin:
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:57 PM
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51. I like the attitude of your post...Hope lots of people feel that way.
Liked the oh so true bumper cars comment. lol
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:02 PM
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53. Bam!
Oh noes! It is a hit and run!

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:13 PM
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9. I can't wait to see the exchange b/w Bush and the journalist again
How awkward was that?!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:18 PM
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15. Elizabeth ? coming up after the break ?
KO sounds pissed that Gore and Biden haven't "endorsed" either :shrug:

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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:20 PM
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18. Keith is unwatchable since he got hit by the "BAM!" If he slams the Edwards, we need to let him
HAVE IT!
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:19 PM
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17. Um, Keith is having Elizabeth Edwards on for an interview. How about you wait and see
how it goes before you rail on KO? (PS, I'm an Edwards supporter, turned Obama supporter) KO, was one of the only people who gave Edwards the time of day when he was still in the race.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:21 PM
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21. I, too, supported Edwards first.
And I thought KO favored him when he was in the race.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:40 PM
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41. KO was one of the only people with a program who gave Edwards any
air time. I remember being so disgusted that it was as if Edwards wasn't even in the race, considering how he was ignored by the press, as well as in the debates.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:21 PM
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20. Doesn't sound like he's going after Edwards, are you paranoid or something?
He's interviewing Mrs. Edwards, I believe.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:24 PM
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23. KO is just saying the Edwards, Gore, Biden...
seem not to be endorsing anyone because they may be looking for Cabinet posts and can't afford to offend any candidate.

Wow... that's soooo nasty.... :eyes:
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:22 PM
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57. Ha! It is politics so it could be true! I HOPE they are looking for posts because they are WONDERFUL
people who would be a HUGE asset to Obama. Edwards could do so much with poverty. Biden could be like secretary of state or something. He is great on foreign policy issues. Or I would like him as VP too. Gore of course would be a huge asset to environmental issues.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:25 PM
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24. Keith is not interviewing her, just that sloppy NYT article....
Edwardsian Drama? Why Keith Why? Trash journalism at it's worst :cry:

Edwards wants a cabinet post? Holding out as an alternative candidate? BULL SH*T, Keith, BULL SH*T.

OY!
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:28 PM
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26. again.... oh brother....
You just see what you want to see. KO didn't trash anyone.

What did he say that was so awful? And leave the drama at home.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:28 PM
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27. With Keith (and all Obamanoids) you're either with us, or you're agin' us.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:30 PM
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28. Did you watch the segment?
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:33 PM
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32. I broke my KO boycott and watched. It was mild - fortunately E J Dionne is a real
journalist, so he kept Keith in line. A different Obama buttboy from the media- and who knows how much Keith might have gotten worked up. There was no need for the "Edwardsian Drama" segment title.

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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:36 PM
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37. It was not negative towards the Edwards' in the least.
"Edwardsian Drama" is the cleverest title they could come up with most likely. The titles are never very good.

Nevertheless, I find it really sad that everyone jumps on Olbermann for attacking the Edwards when he did no such thing. He was the first to bring up the point that the NYT article was not in line with Edwards.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:34 PM
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33. HRC people are blinded by KO hatred.
Honestly, it wouldn't matter what he said they would claim it was nasty.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:31 PM
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29. Are we watching the same show?
It didn't sound to me like he was "going after the Edwards" at all. In fact, he even made fun of the NYT article insinuation that Edwards was not endorsing because he was "holding out for a cabinet position".
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:33 PM
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30. KO is morphing into Billo
Crap "journalism". He used a "sources sez" NYT to attack the Edwards tonight.

Kiss my angry white female ass Keith.

Oy.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:35 PM
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34. I'm still not sure how he "attacked" using the NYT article
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 07:38 PM by ErinBerin84
It seemed to me that he was making fun of the "unnamed source" in the NYT that claimed Edwards was holding out for a cabinet position. Oh well. We see different things. KO has long been considered sort of the liberal equiv of Bill O by a lot of the press (and some even say that Bill O is better because he invites more people that disagree with him. I personally could never watch Bill and can watch Keith even when he says things that I disagree with ) and has always seemed pissy to me, so I don't see the change especially.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:35 PM
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36. How about you kiss mine instead?
Why don't you stop lying about KO? We see through you.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:36 PM
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38. When? When he said the NYT article didn't sound accurate?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:38 PM
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39. Honestly Catchawave, I am an Edwards supporter, turned Obama supporter,
and I didn't see any attack on Edwards. KO was one of the only people to give JE ANY air time when he was in the race, and he has my beloved Elizabeth Edwards on from time to time. It's as if we watched two different segments. :shrugs:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:42 PM
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42. It was sleazy...promo was Edwards
segment was NYT article and a clip w/newsbunny?

Good luck with your candidate myrna, I'm not knocking the BO here, just trying to keep KO honest :hi:

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:48 PM
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46. Look, I totally respect keeping folks honest, especially journalists and politicians.
:hi: I didn't think you were knocking Obama at all, I just tossed in that detail, because I'm supporting Obama now, but I was originally an Edwards supporter. I apparently missed that part, because I was posting (d'oh), but I'm convinced that Keith has nothing but personal respect for John and Elizabeth Edwards.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:44 PM
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44. Keith can go the way
of Markos, Arianna, and all the others who tied their horse to the wrong wagon.

Anyone who knows Edwards knows he is LIGHT YEARS better than Keith and a REAL LIBERAL too ;)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:50 PM
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47. You rock CJP !
:loveya:

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:54 PM
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49. KO was one of the only people who had John Edwards on his show when Edwards was in the race. I know
Edited on Tue Apr-29-08 07:55 PM by myrna minx
this because I supported Edwards and recorded many of the interviews. When there was a near media blackout of Edwards, as well as marginalizing him in the debates, KO had him as well as Elizabeth on quite frequently. I had the sense that KO had tremendous respect for them, therefore he gave an opportunity for Edwards to get his message out on his show.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:52 PM
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48. He didn't go atter them at all -
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:01 PM
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52. get with the program....
the importance of facts and context decreases proportionally to the level of desperation with some of the more rabid hillary supporters (and to be fair, some of the more rabid Obama supporters too as well as a large majority on both sides who are suffering from PTGDPSD or post-traumatic GDP stress disorder)

:hi:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:03 PM
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55. Sorry - I forgot the program - silly me! Thanks for the reminder!
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nsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 07:56 PM
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50. This post is ridiculous. Watch the show before posting!
KO didn't "go after" John or Elizabeth Edwards. He merely reported that they were unlikely to endorse before the NC primary.

In fact, he paid them a compliment because he seemed skeptical of the idea that they weren't endorsing for fear of picking the loser. He gave more credence to the idea that the Edwardses think they'll be more effective working with Gore, Biden, and others as a group to shut things down after the last primary.

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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:03 PM
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54. Wow, I thought he was both respectful of the Edwards
and demonstrated a high degree of skepticism over the "cabinet post" rumors.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-29-08 08:12 PM
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56. He's a SHILL, do y'all get it now? He's a cartoon, a joke, an embarrassment.
It actually started well before the primaries.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:19 PM
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59. Loser.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:13 PM
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58. He is a total ass.
Turn off the TV.
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DerekJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:20 PM
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60. What did he say?!!
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bobbert Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 09:28 PM
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61. This reminds me of the post 2 days ago where Elizabeth Edwards was going to endorse Hillary
simply because she was going to be interviewed later that day. Turns out nothing of the sort happened. What a waste of time this was.
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