Obama can no longer win the general election

[guardian]

Obama has officially jumped the shark with this Rev Wright mess. Time now to fully support Hillary.

[cliffordu]

1. Aw, well, OK. (Tuzla.)

[Mezzo]

75. Harry and Louise.

[Triana]

2. WHO are all these low-post people posting these type of posts here tonight?

INTERSTINK. . .

PeeEss - HOW MUCH does the Hillary campaign PAY YOU to come here and post stuff like this? Can't be much 'cause they're broke.

[cliffordu]

16. Yeah - I hope they're getting paid up front.

Stupid Metaphor:

She had a deep, throaty, genuine laugh, like that sound a dog makes just before it throws up.

[Moochy]

26. Hillary spent her Economic Stimulus Check Tonite!

$600 does not buy as many socks as it used to. :evilgrin:

[emilyg]

48. Did you not at one time have a low

post count?

[KSinTX]

89. Thanks for that, emilyg

[Capn Sunshine]

70. Dead enders from the 44 website

I wonder if they can work their coffee machine.

[last1standing]

3. That's not good because Hillary never could win the general election.

Where does that leave us?

[guyanakoolaid]

4. Because Nielsen is tracking delegates, right?

:eyes:

[Withywindle]

19. I'm a Nielsen "household"

What they're learning from me is that single urban 38-year-old half-white/half-Latina women in the 10K - 30K income range who own laptop computers but not cars watch a fuckload of Doctor Who and Battlestar Galactica and LOST, and get hot pants for Keith Olbermann and Stephen Colbert. The History-International Channel and the Discovery Channel and Science Channel and Animal Planet go over big with "our" demographic too.

OH, and the very second McCain or * start talking we can't change the channel fast enough. To ANYTHING. But the very second Obama's on doing *anything* we can't lock on and stay there fast enough.

[Jed Dilligan]

31. You sound like my kind of folks!

[Cha]

5. Ah well, another day another stupid

OP.

[NJSecularist]

6. I agree. Time to rally around Hillary. n/t

[Ken Burch]

44. No. She forfeited any right to the nomination when she started bashing the candidate who was ahead.

Once Obama took the lead, HRC should have felt obligated to run a strictly positive primary campaign and only attack McCain.

Why can't you guys accept that she's hurt the party by attacking the frontrunner?

[Name removed]

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[Roxy66]

8. uuuhh.....No.

[mcctatas]

Wait, I thought he threw him under the bus?

damn, I can't keep the hillbot/neocon talking point of the day straight anymore!

[Moochy]

20. This was the bus driver

[leftstreet]

9. Welcome back!

:hi:

[barack the house]

10. Thank you for that instruction. We'll bear it in mind if she runs in 2012.

[newmajority]

11. **Yawn**

:boring: someone wake me up when the trolls go home :boring:

[liberaldem4ever]

12. You're either dreaming or delusional

Or both. :rofl:

[guardian]

15. Neither dreaming nor delusional

I just think Obama will not be able to recover from this. It will haunt him through Nov. Too many of the swing voters will be put off by this. There is no way the repugs will let this go. It will be replayed constantly in the weeks before Nov election.

[cliffordu]

28. Blah de blah de blah blah blah. We got it, on to the next, please.

I love Hillary:

She grew on him like she was a colony of E. Coli, and he was room-temperature Canadian beef.



You know what I like the best??

TUZLA.

:hi:

[JoFerret]

86. That's like a found poem

of auto pilot Hillary hate.

Throw in a biblical reference and you have a perfect little rant.

[liberaldem4ever]

57. You are entitled to your opinion

We'll all know for sure soon. I believe you will be proven wrong. Obama is going to be an excellent president.

[Samantha]

77. Well, the Republicans are desperate and will fight the dirtiest

campaign we have ever seen ... including that in 2000. So brace yourself.

As far as saying Obama cannot win against McCain, I COULD WRITE A WINNING STRATEGY FOR THAT TONIGHT, AND THAT'S NOT MY FORTE.

Wait until the voting public gets a good listen of McCain saying he wants to privatize Social Security. I am sure the State of Florida seniors will reconsider their Republican preferences when they consider that. Privatization of Social Security about 5 years ago was estimated to cost about 3 trillion dollars. Regardless of what you see or read ANY PLACE, that administrative overhead for the move to privatize will result in a cut in benefits to existing retired people. Count on that. And of course no one will accuse him of caving to the Wall Street crowd, who for the last few decades have been clamoring for that money to gamble on the stock market ... Ken Lay gastrointestinal regurgitation, anyone?

Wait until the torture flipflop is made into a video. I personally can't wait ... I get excited just trying to imagine it.

And another thing, years ago was he not "pro choice" and that was why some liberals actually liked him? Isn't he now a right-to-lifer ... didn't I recently hear that?

Exactly how does one perceive exactly where McCain stands (or falls) on these issues - he moves left to right to quickly these days ... wasn't there a Presidential candidate recently who the Swiftboaters labeled a "flip flopper" that narrowly failed to win the Oval Office for four years - because he was unmercifully damaged with that label? If so, can't we too use that? I THINK SO!

And what exactly was that he said about most Americans being better off today than they were four years ago -- has anyone told him the dollar has lost 40% of its value IN THE LAST TWO YEARS?

And why is it again he can't keep his Sunni straight without Lieberman whispering in his ear? Early memory loss setting in (and I phrase it that way to be kind ...)

But here's the GE killer for McCain (regardless of who he runs against) - he condones a war with Iran. So how many children are YOU prepared to sacrifice for the Bush*/McCain war on terror? And if the answer is none, how many will you allowed to be maimed or psychologically ruined for life by serving in the Bush*/McCain preemptive wars? Can you recover if your child simply takes his or her own life (as opposed to being taken from this earth by the terrorists)?

I could go on and on the rest of the night. Any average politician can take McCain out in the GE once the campaign truly starts. Oh, but wait, let's talk about his religious advisers now and get the fun started ... what was that Agee said about the people of New Orleans and Katrina again, could you remind me ....

PS Where is that picture of him hugging and hanging off George Bush*s neck BTW ....

[Tesha]

88. Will it be funded by Clinton operatives, like the illegal robocalls in NC? (NT)

[Eurobabe]

13. Time for you to jump the shark on my ignore list

Meet great WHITE.

Cya BAI!!

[chill_wind]

46. LOL! :-) n/t

[Kool Kitty]

14. No thanks.

Obama's my candidate. If he loses the nomination, I will vote for her in November. I won't be thrilled about it, but at that point, there would be no choice. I am a Democrat.

[kid a]

17. is it hard typing with one hand?

[gristy]

18. Haven't I met you somewhere before?

[rodeodance]

21. I doubt he can win the nomination at this point. his polls have been tanking.

[kmsarvis]

78. Tanking to almost Hillary levels.

[Genevieve]

22. Lol

[kenny blankenship]

23. Fresh pantload there. The thing about fresh pantloads is

they may be fresh, but really it's same old crap.

[onenote]

24. hit, meet run

no guts.

[TahitiNut]

25. Did you think that up all by yourself? All of it? Really?

Did you sprain your brain? :eyes:

What utter tripe!

[Ramonna Villota]

27. NO

NO

[EFerrari]

29. Is your own forum so dead?

[Webster Green]

30. He'll win if he gets enough votes..

Hillary sucks, so no thanks!:thumbsdown:

[stevietheman]

32. Hillary jumped the shark in 2002 when she voted for the IWR. n/t

n/t

[saltpoint]

33. I interpret the week's events differently. HClinton is the one who has

lost ground.

Her husband was often referenced as "our first black president," suggesting his ease with Afro American citizens.

I think that went down the toilet the week before South Carolina.

In overwhelming numbers, Afro American citizens are supporting Senator Obama. After Bubba's clumsy remarks in SC, it's easy to see why.

Obama also is winning among young folks, young career professionals, folks generally under 40 or so, the well educated, and throw in many independents into the mix as well.

None of the people who have comprised his majority in winning states give one damn about Rev. Wright. They aren't voting for a pastor. They're voting for a future, and Mrs. Clinton no longer lays claim to representing that future.

She has lost the nomination.

[guardian]

37. It's nice to get an intelligent response

I recognize your points and agree they are problems. I just think a larger percentage of the populace can ignore Hillary's faux pas more than the Rev Wright association.

Nice to see a reply from someone that doesn't think FU is a rationale response.

[saltpoint]

40. Hi, guardian. I see in your profile that you are a Coloradan, and I say

hurray, because you are the home state for our convention and will see either HClinton or B. Obama take the nomination stage in Denver.

What a huge headline there along the Front Range. Congratulations in advance.

Also what a hopeful trend for Udall in that Senate race. I'll send good blue vibes your way.

[eridani]

41. In other words, people who are racists will never, ever be misogynists n/t

[gaiilonfong]

34. REAGAN DEMOCRAT Taylor Marsh spending all her tip money

on these kind of posts, she is NOT a good business person!

[Moochy]

38. She's Stimulating the Economy

If not the debate.

[PseudoIntellect]

35. Okay I'm convinced. Primaries are meaningless. Let's base our

nominee on who has the latest tabloid story.

:sarcasm:

[Norrin Radd]

36. Only on Bizarro World.

[eridani]

39. Tell me how someone who lies about sniper fire beats an ex-POW n/t

[thoughtcrime1984]

42. Nah, I'm too nice for that. nt

[Ken Burch]

43. Sorry, I can't give up and settle for a nonprogressive, idealism-hating candidate.

I can't back a candidate who wants young voters out of the process and wants blacks to "know their place"(which is what saying the country isn't ready for a black president means.)

I'm not ready to make this election meaningless.

[lligrd]

45. Hillary Can't Even Win Dems

I sure as hell won't vote for her.

[quakerboy]

47. Maybe, Maybe not.

But Hillary never could, so that would just make us even.

[BigBearJohn]

49. self-delete

[FlyingSquirrel]

50. As my daughter would say...

Whatev!

[4themind]

51. Sorry but you've

not provided sufficient criteria to justify your claim, of an absolute impossibility (which, without modification, your post can be fairly seen as) and as such, I think it belongs in the rhetorical trash bin.

[mattclearing]

52. Hillary jumped the shark when she voted for the IWR. n/t

[Indi Guy]

53. Bill Clinton jumped the shark by equating Obama's SC win with Jackson's...

:shrug:

[DemsUnited]

54. What a silly OP. Last night, Chuck Todd said that he had talked

to a lot of super delegates and none of them feel that Obama's baggage "is any heavier than Clinton's". But they've all seen how Clinton handles baggage, and were waiting to see how well Obama did the same.

The vast majority of pundits I saw last night on CNN and MSNBC thought Obama handled the Wright issue pretty darn well.

And as a witty DU'er said in a previous post, when you're honest about baggage, Obama has a carryon and Hillary has a U-Haul.

[Jersey Devil]

55. *PLONK*

[slinkerwink]

56. Nope. Hillary can go hoist herself on her own petard.

[JoFerret]

58. Is that like a

noose?

[Moochy]

60. You've just been "Hoisted on your own petard"

Darn Obama Supporters using the vile symbol of black oppression to insinuate violence against Hillary! A Perfect EXAMPLE OF TeH RACISMS of OBAMA!1111111

[JoFerret]

64. What?

.

[Name removed]

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[thevoiceofreason]

76. Just like you, snaky

[democrattotheend]

59. You know, you're right. I think you've just convinced me to switch.

On second thought, I'm sticking with Obama to the bitter end, and hopefully all the way to the White House. But thanks for the offer.

[Mz Pip]

61. Thank you for the heads up.

We need more psychics around here.

[Texas Hill Country]

62. yup - k & r

[graycem]

63. Oh gosh..

you're probably right. I'm glad you told us that, otherwise we'd be falling for this crap about him WINNING and gaining supers all day long. Phew! That was a close one, Batman! :scared:

[anonymous171]

65. Hillary jumped the shark a looooooooong time ago.

Now it's time support Edwards!

[stevenleser]

66. Official "Hillary has 100 times the baggage of Barack" *PLONK*

[BlueIdaho]

67. Here we go again... sigh.

[Tribetime]

68. Tell that to the House Super Delegates who have all decided

already. Guess what ITS OVER

[hayu_lol]

72. Gosh, all you Obama supporters forgot to mention:

the trashing of the White House and the rip-off of Air Force One.

You do seem to remember the blue dress, Monica, Linda Tripp, and Vince Foster though.

Go Hillary!

[lastliberalintexas]

69. Obama can still win in Nov

Either of our candidates would get crucified by the media, so we need to find ways around them and get the real message out about whoever our nominee is. Obama's campaign certainly isn't finished, and I think he would give McCain, the republican establishment, the media and the 527s just waiting to pounce a bigger fight than they expect.

Unlike many on DU, I don't think Nov is a lock for either of our candidates, but I think we have a better than average chance.

[PerfectSage]

71. My foot will fully support Hillary's useless, fat pos, babyboomer ass.

[backscatter712]

73. *plonk*

[lojasmo]

79. Bwahahaha! No. NT

[cali]

80. Wrong. Obama absolutely can still win the general election

It's simply wishful thinking on the part of hillary supporters to make such a claim. And if he wins the nomination, he'll have demonstrated that he has what it takes to deal effectively with incoming.

[elizm]

81. How's that fantasy working for you?

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=A138D26F-3048-5C12-00C0ADE0A1B9D37E

[and-justice-for-all]

82. "Obama can no longer win the general election"

Keep telling yourself that.

OBAMA '08.

[livingmadness]

83. MCCAIN can't win the GE

Heck, even the repugs know that. Which is why both our candidates are desperate for the nomination. Sheesh, the latest polls show that the voting public are more concerned about McCain-Bush than Obama-Wright. And the economy/war is going to get considerably worse between now and November, sadly. The GE is a given IMO, and as much as I'm not a fan of Hillary's, that's true for both of them.

[casus belli]

84. Thanks for your concern, but no thanks. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

85. Thank you for your concern.

Your heartfelt concerned expression of concern has been noted by everyone concerned.

[Freedom Train]

87. *bump*