Tactical Progressive
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:57 AM
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20 years of anti-American preaching and racist sermons |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 12:59 AM by Tactical Progressive
Barack and Michelle Obama, who "has never been proud of America", are fully on-board with Rev Wright. Two decades of that kind of ideological pastoring is no problem for Obama or his wife.
When, exactly, does Obama get angry and speak out, and over what?
Obama only gets angry when he feels that Wright is disrespecting >>him<<.
It came through clearly in Obama's disavowal speech, over and over and over.
The only time Obama actually cares about anything, is when it's about Obama.
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:58 AM
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1. It's all about the O! /nt |
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:58 AM
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2. What Progressive Tactics you are using |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 01:00 AM by Moochy
Mmmmm Cognitive Dissonance.
Sort of Like Fox News adopting it's "Fair and Balanced" Mantra.
You know what? I'm going to make a sock puppet named Strategic Conservative over at FR to balance out the universe.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:10 AM
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:58 AM
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ewww, just ewww! Hannity spews the same bullshit!
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Wed Apr-30-08 12:59 AM
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4. Fine.... don't vote for him.... and when he becomes President, you'll STILL get to enjoy the good |
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:00 AM
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5. your fear of Obama is showing |
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mayhaps you should get counseling.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:08 AM
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Wed Apr-30-08 04:32 AM
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Kind of sad when this is done, when Hillary Clinton stood by the man she chose while he committed adultery and lied to the American people. How long have they been married, anyways?
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:21 PM
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28. Gosh - 30 years, maybe?? |
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Bill was ALWAYS like that too, from day one.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:01 AM
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:08 AM
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7. You know what I like about Hillary?? |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 01:10 AM by cliffordu
SHE'S TOAST: The goalposts stop here.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:11 AM
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10. Have you seen all 20 years? |
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Then how do you know it's all racist?
Are you not being told to think it's all racist?
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:13 AM
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11. That's not fair. You can only say those things about Hillary. nt |
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:18 AM
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12. How is Wright's preaching "racist"? |
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And I don't mean that in the sense of "only white people can be racist," because to me that's simply a matter of semantics - anyone can be prejudiced, it just takes a certain amount of power and influence to make that prejudice harmful on a large scale. I mean in the sense of, what has he ever said that was blanketly hateful toward white people? I see him, rather, as railing against the powers-that-be, which simply happen to be mostly white men.
And if you honestly think that not being proud of America, especially when you and your ancestors have been fucked over but good, is evidence of racism, then I don't even know what to say to you. This is exactly the kind of knee-jerk patriotism that "God damn America" was a reaction against.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:19 AM
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13. Yes, Wright said "God Damn America!" |
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SO FUCKING WHAT?
One definition of nationalism is the pressure to be insanely proud of your country simply for existing. "Aren't you proud to be an American?" / "I dunno, I didn't have much to do with it, my parents fucked here" (the late great Bill Hicks). The USA exists, big freakin' whoop. None of the people alive today fought the War of Independence or framed the Bill of Rights or fought in the Civil War. Those were reasons to be proud of your country, being proud of it just because it happened to host your birth isn't.
Here (England), what Wright said or what Michelle Obama said (when she said she'd never really been proud of the country before) wouldn't have raised a damn eyebrow. You ever want to know why the rest of the world gets so irritated with Americans, shit like this is a big part of the reason. "You MUST be incredibly proud of America" / "Why?" / "Because it exists!".
Grow the fuck up. You don't get to be proud of being the greatest nation on earth until you start fucking acting like it again.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:40 AM
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14. What's this? Another Hicks fan on the same thread? You rock! |
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:40 AM
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15. Thank You for saying what I have been thinking |
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I was listening to a right wing Bay Area talk show host tonight. He was upset because a caller stated that the U.S. had killed 1,000,000 people in Iraq and we needed to leave. He started yelling at the caller and basically said that since Saddam had usee,hemical weapons (which we gave him) we had to go over there and take him out. The only problem is we killed people, many innocent people. Are they a different kind of dead because America killed them. I guess it hurts less when your babies have their arms or legs blown off if the bombs come from the good old red, white and blue. I don't believe it is patriotic to stand by your Government when it is wrong and I pray that God does not damn America, but he just might.
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:41 AM
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16. Everything will be ok...... |
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:45 AM
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17. B.S. Did you serve 6 years in the Military and care for President Johnson like Rev Wright? |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 01:46 AM by ShortnFiery
Who's the UN-American now?
David Bowie would NOW croon ...
Do you remember, your Senator Clinton? Do you remember, the bills you have to pay Or even yesterday?
Have you have been an un-American? Just you and your idol singing falsetto 'bout Leather, leather everywhere, and Not a myth left from the ghetto
Well, well, well, would you carry a razor? In case, just in case of depression? Sit on your hands on a bus of survivors Blushing at all the afro-Sheilas
Ain't that close to love? Well, ain't that poster love? Well, it ain't that Barbie doll Her heart's been broken just like you have
All night You want the young American Young American, young American, you want the young American All right You want the young American
You ain't a pimp and you ain't a hustler A pimp's got a Cadi and a lady got a Chrysler Black's got respect, and white's got his soul train Mama's got cramps, and look at your hands ache (I heard the news today, oh boy) I got a suite and you got defeat Ain't there a man you can say no more? And, ain't there a woman I can sock on the jaw? And, ain't there a child I can hold without judging? Ain't there a pen that will write before they die? Ain't you proud that you've still got faces?
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:45 AM
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18. Damn you sound like a Republican! |
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I think you got lost your way to Free Republic. It's over there on the far right.
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:35 AM
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27. I sound like Obama, the Reagan idolizer? |
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Wed Apr-30-08 01:49 AM
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19. 2 Minutes Over 20 Years Is More Like It |
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Your Rovian tactics are deplorable!
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Wed Apr-30-08 03:00 AM
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20. Your talking points are over a week old |
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'a few words taken out of context' by the media and his opponents.
Un-huh. The Rev Wright put that to reston at the NPC.
Obama lied.
Again, on just this issue.
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Wed Apr-30-08 03:16 AM
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21. this post would fit in beautifully at freeperville or even Stormfront. |
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it's a right wing piece of shit.
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Wed Apr-30-08 04:30 AM
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he or his wife agree with much of the rhetoric.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:11 AM
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25. I think they do agree with Wright's rhetoric |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:12 AM by Tactical Progressive
for the most part. Michelle Obama's various statements seem cut from the same exact worldview.
Obama, if you listen closely enough, is mostly upset because he feels that Wright dissed him by not being discreet enough.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:10 AM
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24. is sad that you are reduced to lies and distrtions. |
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:12 AM
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26. Thank you for the right wing talking points... |
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it never gets old.
:sarcasm: (in case your detector is as broken as your logic)
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