LuckyTheDog
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:33 AM
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:58 AM by LuckyTheDog
Rev. Wright's behavior at the National Press Club seems to confirm my suspicions: Wright has been "losing it" for the past several years. And that is more than likely why the congregation pushed him out. Obama cannot and should not be held accountable for the guy's apparent (and sad) mental and emotional decline.
Had Obama not been in the Senate for the past 3 years, perhaps he would have been more actively involved nudging Wright out of the church. But it seems entirely credible to me that Obama had no idea how far off the deep end Wright had dived. When you are not involved with a congregation from week to week, it's hard to know everything that is happening.
Wright needs to be ignored and left alone, except by the family and friends who should be helping him become more grounded.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:40 AM
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I doubt anyone will buy that, even if it is true.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:43 AM
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2. It seems obvious to me |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 05:43 AM by LuckyTheDog
I think most people would look it the same way, unless they have an axe to grind.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:56 AM
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5. I think he meant what he said, and he was pretty well-versed about it. |
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I don't think someone who is losing their mind is going to be that specific about their scripture or their facts. That said, I happen to agree with most everything Wright said. It's totally embarrassing for Obama, though.
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:05 AM
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Do you REALLY believe that Louis Farrakhan speaks for the black community and that the whole black community hangs on every word he says? I don't think any rational observer would say such a thing. And let's not even get into the "government created AIDS" nonsense.
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:10 AM
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15. I believe that there is a significant subset of the black community that values Farrakhan's pov. |
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As far as the AIDS thing, what Reverend Wright said was that after the Tuskegee experiment that went on for forty years, he couldn't discount it. But it's not just that as far as I'm concerned, because the CIA fed unknowing people LSD, flooded the market with crack, and experimented with manchurian candidate-style mind-control. With all that in mind, the AIDS thing isn't a huge leap, but all of the things before it are much more reliably documented.
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Wed Apr-30-08 10:58 PM
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22. That's exactly right. |
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There was an HBO documentary called "BASTARDS OF THE PARTY" about the beginning of the Crips and Bloods - how right after the assassination of two of the Panthers in south central LA two factions of the panthers split up and then started war for territory because the streets were flooded with coke, then freebase and then crack linked to the CIA and then the Iran Contra smugglers....
Don't laugh...I bought drugs off CIA operatives in Vietnam....They funded extensive operations into Laos with the Thai stick....
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Thu May-01-08 04:32 AM
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25. I'm not laughing. I know what goes on. |
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One of many reasons I'm supporting Obama.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:46 AM
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3. I thought he was spot on. |
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What exactly makes you think he's "lost it"? His answers were right on the money. Or were you just not enjoying his frivolity with his friends in between questions?
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:00 AM
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8. The government invented AIDS? Really? |
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Come on, now. Also, his behavior seemed... well, odd.
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:04 AM
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10. The military did go to congress to ask for funding for race-specific diseases |
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to use as weapons. AIDS was probably for blacks. Maybe they did SARS for the Chinese. Still working out the kinks, of course. Perfectly plausible. What makes you think the government WOULDN'T invent AIDS?
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:06 AM
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13. AIDS was not invented by the government (nt) |
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:36 AM
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18. If not invented, how about exploited? We need to get the Africans out of Africa. |
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They're clogging up the natural resources we want. Thus the Africa command is established. Don't worry, the NWO has all the time in the world.
It's time to stop being so naive and thinking 'the gov't wouldn't invent AIDs, the gov't wouldn't torture, the gov't wouldn't trade drugs for arms, and arms for hostages,, the gov't wouldn't plot to assassinate other world leaders, the gov't wouldn't "
Seriously. We don't have a sovereign nation. It is NOT run 'by the people' or even 'for the people'
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Thu May-01-08 07:34 PM
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35. Is there something in your water that makes you stupid? AIDS is not a 'black' disease |
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Geezus the stuff some of you say.
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:32 AM
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17. He never said they did it, just that they were capable of it. |
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And who's the fool that doesn't believe that considering all the things they have done?
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Thu May-01-08 07:45 AM
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28. Bullshit. Jeremiah Wright unequivocally declared that the US government invented HIV... |
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Edited on Thu May-01-08 07:48 AM by The Night Owl
"The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied." - Jeremiah Wright
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Thu May-01-08 06:44 PM
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I only saw his answer in the Q&A session, where he said they were capable. You can't say for certain they did it as he says there. You can't prove it. It is a foolish statement.
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Thu May-01-08 06:45 PM
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31. Dude, I can't believe you kicked this. nt |
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Thu May-01-08 06:45 PM
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32. Dude, I can't believe you kicked this. nt |
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:55 AM
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4. More long distance diagnosis |
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Do you know Wright? And how can you say he was pushed out? Btw, Obama has been in the Senate for 3 years and 3 months- not for 5 years.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:58 AM
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6. Did you SEE the press club thing? |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 06:01 AM by LuckyTheDog
The guy clearly has lost it.
I fixed the typo on the year.
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Wed Apr-30-08 05:59 AM
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7. Clearly he is out to undermine Obama |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 06:00 AM by JoFerret
Now Obama has bitten back - what will Wright do?
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:02 AM
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Seriously, why should anyone care?
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:05 AM
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12. Not for me to judge but wounded vanity |
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is a powerful motivator. It will raise the question of Obama's past judgment and whether this "outrage" means anything to people. Obama threw his old friend to the dogs. His old friend does not want him to succeed.
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LuckyTheDog
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:08 AM
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14. Obama went out on a limb for Wright |
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Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 06:08 AM by LuckyTheDog
And Wright paid him back by attacking Obama using irrational ranting.
Obama did the right thing here. Wright threw himself to the dogs.
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Wed Apr-30-08 10:46 PM
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21. Dog eat dog world then |
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Fri May-02-08 12:06 AM
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37. I wonder how true it is, that Wright has some problems |
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Edited on Fri May-02-08 12:07 AM by windbreeze
and was paid quite a sum of money to cause Obama problems, or his(Wright's) problems were going to be exposed...??? wb
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:27 AM
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16. I was wondering if he is suffering from Alzhiemers |
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Wed Apr-30-08 07:05 AM
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19. I have looked at his sermons online |
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The Wright from several years back seems like a different Wright than we see now.
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Wed Apr-30-08 02:35 PM
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20. Wright is a preacher. His perspective and responsibility is different, NOT DIFICIENT! |
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Many progressives, especially AA, share his understanding of life and times in America.
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Wed Apr-30-08 11:06 PM
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24. Different not Deficient - in other words, updated, SEdated, academicized, fluffed up and airbrushed: |
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SEPARATE BUT EQUAL. Think about it. Left-white-brain/right-black-brain ruminations take you down that road.
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Thu May-01-08 07:51 AM
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Edited on Thu May-01-08 07:55 AM by The Night Owl
Here is what Jeremiah Wright has to say about liberals... Our hope is not built on faith-based dollars, empty liberal promises or veiled hate-filled preachments of the so-called conservatives. Our hope is built on Him who came in the flesh to set us free.http://www.tucc.org/pdf/rey_5-2006.pdf
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Thu May-01-08 06:42 AM
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26. Is this the guy who was being compared to the second coming around here last week? |
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Whoa dude what a turn around.
Don
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Thu May-01-08 07:30 PM
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Jeez...the guy is a frigging human being. He didn't put himself in the spotlight. The man was disemboweled gleefully by the media...and others..24/7 for 3 weeks running, with selected excerpts from a sermon. The recent media circus that followed, whether he inadvertently or intentionally created it, is a shame. The entire farce is a disgrace. Too bad Obama's preacher wasn't Pat Robertson.
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Thu May-01-08 07:43 AM
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27. That would account for a lot of things. I don't see it myself but |
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I did notice that he seemed much more at ease in the venues he's probably used to - speaking on his own or sitting across from someone and having a conversation. He seemed visibly less at ease and even somewhat defensive during the Q&A with that smirky moderator at the Press Club.
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Thu May-01-08 06:57 PM
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33. What did he say at the NPC that is different than what he has said before? |
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Thu May-01-08 10:43 PM
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36. Is there any evidence |
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that Wright of 2008 is fundamentally different from the Wright of 10, 15, 20 years ago?
This seems like a rather distasteful attempt to gaslight Wright.
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