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southern_belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:15 AM
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Have You Left No Sense Of Decency?
If the corporate media had been as diligent about watchdogging President Bush as they have been about watchdogging Reverend Wright, it's very likely we wouldn't have invaded Iraq.

If the corporate media had spent as much time exposing the obvious flaws and grotesque inequalities of Reaganomics throughout the last 30 years as they've spent on Wright, we wouldn't necessarily be staring into the maw of another depression.

If the corporate media were as diligent about debunking the lies surrounding Iran's so-called nuclear program as they've been about Wright, there wouldn't be such a sense of inevitability in terms of attacking -- or entirely obliterating -- Iran.

So what is the very serious corporate media, the only industry that is explicitly protected by the Constitution, doing to remedy their failures of the recent past? Rather than watchdogging the Bush administration and Senator McCain on Iraq, Iran, the economy and all the rest of it -- areas in which Senator McCain is laughably wrong and dangerously inconsistent -- what are we seeing instead?


Great article! Read the rest at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/have-you-left-no-sense-of_b_99244.html
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:17 AM
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1. The corporate media would rather run a story about a sex scandal than real news
:shrug:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:57 AM
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6. unless the sex scandal would be about McCain
Edited on Wed Apr-30-08 11:57 AM by Mabus
Reporters don't want to talk about what they heard or saw on their "Straight Talk Express" rides with McCain. More than one reporter is on record as saying they would take McCain "off record" so they wouldn't have to report what they heard.

Besides, it is so much more fun, for them at least, to go after Democrats and sex. Remember how doggedly on the trail our courageous press was when the Jennifer Fitzgerald story broke during Poppy's campaign. They rolled over and chastised themselves. Then Bill's Gennifer emerged and the press couldn't get enough of it. Go figure.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:20 AM
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2. If the corporate media had been as diligent about watchdogging Bush...
...he never would have been president.
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AllexxisF1 Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:28 AM
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3. The real loser....
The real loser of this election will be corporate media and how their blatant disregard for the betterment of the people has been put out for all to see. The winner in this election will be the Internet and us.

The corporate media has in effect cease to be news organizations with the exception of a few individuals that still feel compelled to tell the truth.

It's the internet and people like us who post day in and day out finding the real truth and discussing that truth with the multitudes.

Can you just imagine how different this election would be without the internet.

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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:30 AM
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4. When most think of corporate whores.....
They usually mention big oil at the top of the list, then pharmaceuticals, then hmo's. I say the msm ranks very close to the top.

They had a chance to bring back integrity to journalism when it came to the war, but they folded like a cheap suit. It was more profitable to cover brittany spears, anna nicole and natalie holloway.

I also credit rupert murdoch for much of the decline in the media. It's shocking what passes for journalism these days.
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TragedyandHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 10:13 AM
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5. It's time to send the lapdogs out to the doghouse
or better yet, the junkyard.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 11:59 AM
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7. Better yet, it's time to release the hounds
Rather than sit around and complain about it, call them on it. Call them and write them. Let them know what they are failing to do is not acceptable.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 01:29 PM
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8. The media will not change....
we have to change. The internet is now deluged with the same shit that is on the television. How are we ever going to change anything when we ourselves are pushing the propaganda? The truth is way down on the list of what is important. "Winning" trumps all.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Norman_Solomon/Norman_Solomon_page.html
The Politics of News Media
from the book
False Hope
by Norman Solomon, 1994

Corporate control is not interference in the newsroom-if you own an institution you aren't interfering in it, you're running it.
Orwell anyone? The conditioned reflex of "stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought." The doublethink process "has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt. "
The debilitating obstacles that face journalists-and the rest of us-are primarily institutional. If we push hard to challenge the institutions around us, the struggle can change us for the better in the process. Rather than succumbing to the media manipulation that continues to foreclose better options, we can tune up our personal and collective "radar screens" to track unidentified flying propaganda. Determination to battle for more autonomy over our own possibilities-as individuals, as people communicating with each other, and as a society- opens up new and vital horizons.
In contrast, evading the truth of corporate power over news media is a disorienting mental traffic pattern that keeps tromping a path of political confusion. False mappings of society immobilize us to the great extent that we trust public mythologies more than firsthand realities. Imagine if Rand McNally and its competitors issued maps that had little resemblance to actual streets and highways and terrain. To the extent that we believed those maps, we'd be unable to go much of anywhere; we wouldn't be able to plan our journeys, or meet up with other people; for that matter we wouldn't even really know where we were.
"The news" and punditry provide orientation- guiding the public's perception and navigation of the world. At various times, on various subjects, the media compass needle may actually be pointing south, north, east or west; it's no accident that conventional accounts of politics are disorienting, since they take citizens on detours every day-away from clarity about power: who wields it, how, and why. (Astute investors would never make the mistake of trying to get their bearings from the "A" sections of daily newspapers.) As informative compasses, the mass media indicate much more about how those in power want us to perceive and navigate the world than about how the world really is.
Popularized renderings of reality, however phony, supply us with shared illusions, suitable for complying with authorized itineraries, the requisite trips through never-never lands of public pretense. Privately, we struggle to make sense of our experiences; perhaps we can create some personal space so that our own perceptions and emotions have room to stretch. But the limits of privatized solutions are severe. Public spheres determine the very air we breathe and the social environments of our lives. The standard detours meander through imposing landscapes. Beyond the outer limits of customary responses, uncharted territory is "weird"-certainly not familiar from watching TV or reading daily papers. Following in the usual footsteps seems to be safer.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 06:29 PM
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9. That's why I'm doing something about it
My husband and I have been running a community website for years. Over the years we've grown to over 13K registered users and we've managed to scoop the local media several times. We've had forum participants that have done some very good investigative reporting. They've taken public records and filings and written some pieces that the local media didn't want told. Last month we went into business with a local alternative newspaper and a community internet provider (that helps provide lower socio-economic families with free computers and free internet access) to challenge the local media. Our belief is that if we act locally we can help educate people better about the evils of the larger media. We've staked a lot on this and we hope that we will help provide people with more news they should know.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:25 PM
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10. Wow! That's fantastic!
I did some letter bombing a few years back. I'd print a couple of pages of excerpts of stories I knew were not available to people...the title was "Did You Know?" And I'd have the links to the stories..and pictures. Anyway, I dropped them in shopping carts, in racks where the freebie advertisements were, at the doctor's office, etc., It felt good..I don't know if anyone actually read them. I read that in the 60's there were lots of "Underground Newspapers". I would love to get involved with something like that.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:37 AM
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13. We've got some other things cooking too
We got a wiki url for our city and another url for a community blog. We also snatched up the .mobi and .tv urls for future podcasts and streaming media. We've been talking to college and high school students who have either written stories or have expressed interest in writing stories for our new outlet. We also went to the well, so to speak, and have contacted longtime writers in the local alternative press. Finally, our application for a radio station (320,000 watts) was approved last week.

It didn't happen overnight. This is something we have been working on for the past three years. It started when we held our semi-sorta regular community picnic for our forum users and invited as many alternative press publishers that we could find/locate for a panel to brainstorm the future of our website and local media in general. One of the participants had just started a local alternative newspaper and she had a friend who was starting a freenet project. It's been a lot of work but I think it will pay off. One of the other things we're looking at is starting a PAC to support liberal/progressive candidates for city/county offices.

I personally believe that every little bit helps. We've been fortunate to be able to do a collaborative effort among various types of media/new media outlets and are working with people who believe in making a change.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:31 PM
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11. Aunt Mabus! That's so great!
:applause:

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:44 AM
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15. One small step for liberals
One giant step for Kansas.

It's been a heartache and a blessing. It is still in the beginning stages (we "launched" about two weeks ago) but I think we've tried to think through where we want to go, how we want to do it and whom we are working with on it.
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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-30-08 08:32 PM
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12. I agree
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:41 AM
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14. 1000 K&R's if I could
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 09:48 AM
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16. The fucked up thing is that it's in the corporate media's interest to cover real things.
Olbermann's news career took off when he covered the Ohio recounts. The more crazy things get, the more people tune in. While closer scrutiny of the war might endanger GE's contracts in the long run, the ratings would be through the roof if they showed the coffins, the battlefield footage, etc. I wouldn't want to watch that shit, but God knows a lot of people would.

It casts doubt on corporate media's profit motive for shirking their responsibility...the real money and ratings would be in actually delivering hard-hitting, no holds barred reality news.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 10:16 AM
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17. Corporate pressure isn't new -- What's worst is the spineless of news departments today
Edward R. Murrow had to put up with a lot of pressure from CBS. And Murrow did his share of prostitution by agreeing to do fluff as long as he could also do real; journalism.

What's most troubling about the current media environment is that the people who have gone into the profession have sold their souls and their backbones.

You can just in the few who have any brains or consciences left how stupid they realize it is to be asking or answering the same question about rev. Wright (or fill in the blank) in the same way yet again.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:11 AM
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18. No. I'm pretty sure backbones are disqualifying criteria.
No corporate executive wants to hire an independent thinker to run their cable news show. Real journalism pisses people off, and it's bad for advertisers.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:29 AM
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19. There also used to be public service requirements
There's a lot of factors behind all of this.


A big related issue in that is deregulation.

Network news was not always considered to be a "profit center." Networks made their money off the Beverly Hillbillies, while news was what they had to do to keep the regulators and the public off their back in return.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-01-08 11:36 AM
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20. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours.
Oh well.

Tesha
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